We dismiss it because A) It's physically impossible for these particular PH or DS to raise testosterone on cycle....not only that, they do the opposite. and B) fluctuations in test #'s, esp while on TRT, are commonplace..and most if not all of the reports of elevated test while on epi etc are coming from TRT'ers....go figure right? The guys who are not on TRT who get elevated "test #'s" are probably getting total androgens tested by some bargain basement lab that does not know how to properly test for total actual test. Find me someone who has elevated test while on epi who is not on TRT and who gets labs from labcorp or one of the top notch labs...I seriously doubt you will find this, although I am sure SOMEONE will chime in (they always do in these preposterous situations)

and I'll probably call them a liar.