Unanswered DMZ..

[blynch1]

I've been considering taking a dive into running VL DMZ after reading a lot of info on here in the last few weeks but have quite a bit of questions. It'd be my second cycle and I'd keep the dosage on the low end the whole time to be safe for probably 4 weeks. I was looking to get AL's "Cycle Guard X", basic TUDCA/NAC, and Dermacrine (or would my CEL Stano Plex 300 suffice?). It didn't do **** on my last 1 Andro cycle. I have Clomid already. Anything else I'd need to run this safely or different recommendations? I haven't seen anything about the shut down it causes, so how is that? Advisable to run something slightly wet like 4 Andro?

Thanks!

 

[Ironpirate]

I've been considering taking a dive into running VL DMZ after reading a lot of info on here in the last few weeks but have quite a bit of questions. It'd be my second cycle and I'd keep the dosage on the low end the whole time to be safe for probably 4 weeks. I was looking to get AL's "Cycle Guard X", basic TUDCA/NAC, and Dermacrine (or would my CEL Stano Plex 300 suffice?). It didn't do **** on my last 1 Andro cycle. I have Clomid already. Anything else I'd need to run this safely or different recommendations? I haven't seen anything about the shut down it causes, so how is that? Advisable to run something slightly wet like 4 Andro?

Thanks!

Dmz will definitely shut you down so 4 andro would help with that.

 

[blynch1]

Dmz will definitely shut you down so 4 andro would help with that.

Cool. Any other suggestions/advice?

 

[Ironpirate]

Cool. Any other suggestions/advice?

Dmz is a good mild steroid. Start with 1 cap 15mg once a day with a meal for a few days and if you feel ok start taking one in the morning and one early afternoon 30mg a day. 4andro would be good with it at 300-500mg a day.

 

[blynch1]

Dmz is a good mild steroid. Start with 1 cap 15mg once a day with a meal for a few days and if you feel ok start taking one in the morning and one early afternoon 30mg a day. 4andro would be good with it at 300-500mg a day.

I appreciate it. Would you add/take a way any other supps I was planning to get?

 

[Ironpirate]

I appreciate it. Would you add/take a way any other supps I was planning to get?

Clomid is good. You probably won't need an ai but it's good to have one in case. If you have the dermacrine or stano you can add it but i wouldn't buy it to add. Like i said dmz is pretty mild but it will shut you down so the 4andro is all you need. I dont even take tudca, nac, or any cycle support and my blood work is really good after years of cycles but i understand wanting to play it safe.

 

[blynch1]

Clomid is good. You probably won't need an ai but it's good to have one in case. If you have the dermacrine or stano you can add it but i wouldn't buy it to add. Like i said dmz is pretty mild but it will shut you down so the 4andro is all you need. I dont even take tudca, nac, or any cycle support and my blood work is really good after years of cycles but i understand wanting to play it safe.

Great feedback. Is there a product better than 4 Andro to combat the sides? Sorry just don’t want to run into the same issues as my last cycle Lol.

 

[Nac]

That cycle guard looks like an underdosed waste of time. If youre going to get NAC and TUDCA as well, just stick to them. Your money would be better spent on foods like garlic, celery, spinach, oats, etc. Srs.

 

[Ironpirate]

Great feedback. Is there a product better than 4 Andro to combat the sides? Sorry just don’t want to run into the same issues as my last cycle Lol.

Yes. Testosterone. What issues did you have last time?

 

[blynch1]

Yes. Testosterone. What issues did you have last time?

Tried keeping it easy and just decided to run 1 Andro/ EpiAndro as my first small cycle. Read a lot about the Epi when it was released and how it’d be able to combat the lethargy/major loss in libido the 1 Andro causes (around week 3 it was dead) but it didn’t do anything. I gained some good size for what it was, but my woman loves sex (as do I obviously) and it’s just not an option for that to happen again lol she was not happy. Planned to run for 8 weeks but had to stop it shy of 6 due to this and hopped on the Clomid the next day.
Reason for me asking so many questions because I’d have to still be able to perform while on.

 

[Ironpirate]

Tried keeping it easy and just decided to run 1 Andro/ EpiAndro as my first small cycle. Read a lot about the Epi when it was released and how it’d be able to combat the lethargy/major loss in libido the 1 Andro causes (around week 3 it was dead) but it didn’t do anything. I gained some good size for what it was, but my woman loves sex (as do I obviously) and it’s just not an option for that to happen again lol she was not happy. Planned to run for 8 weeks but had to stop it shy of 6 due to this and hopped on the Clomid the next day.
Reason for me asking so many questions because I’d have to still be able to perform while on.

I hear you on that. 4 andro will help but it could get expensive. Test or trest is best for keeping libido high. I always use test or trest plus cialis with any cycle.