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Demgainz said:
I pm'd you before you posted this. I loved halo. It is probably my favorite compound that I have used.

I recently joined this forum. I was a member several years ago, left, then decided to come back. Looking to get more insight, opinions, and possibly some advice on future runs.
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This is a great place to start again! !!check out the anabolics section . Tons of great reads .
 
I would definitely say that it is a lot. I have seen it at the most 125 maybe even 150, but 200 seems redonkulous.

It apparently worked for bighulk.
 
startingout said:
Is halodrol at 200 alot?
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Demgainz said:
I would definitely say that it is a lot. I have seen it at the most 125 maybe even 150, but 200 seems redonkulous.

It apparently worked for bighulk.
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Let me tell ya how i got to 200 . Over the course of 12 weeksi started out at 100mgs on halo . 50 mgs 2x a day . Then i added another 50mgs at week 4 so it eas 150 mgs . 50 mgs 3x a day . Then week 8 i added 50 more mgs it then became 100 mgs every 12 hrs no matter wat for 4 more weeks . 12 week total of halo . Always start out at the recommended dosage never listen to anyone who tells you otherwise idc who they are .

Wat i did was very dangerous and i do not under any circumstances recommend going above the dose of 100mgs . Some people over time build up resistance to drugs and increase doses for desired results. I dont mean to sound like a preacher or someones old man on a bender but iam just trying to look out . It was an awesome ride tho :) i logged it ill tag ya Demgainz this is kinda like a yes i did that but please dont try it message . Ive been cycling for 15 yrs thats not an excuse just saying most of these compounds can produce astonishing results at low doses .
 
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bighulksmash said:
Let me tell ya how i got to 200 . Over the courseof a year i started out at 100mgs on halo . 50 mgs 2x a day . Then i added another 50mgs at week 4 so it eas 150 mgs . 50 mgs 3x a day . Then week 8 i added 50 more mgs it then became 100 mgs every 12 hrs no matter wat for 4 more weeks . 12 week total of halo . Always start out at the recommended dosage never listen to anyone who tells you otherwise idc who they are .

Wat i did was very dangerous and i do not under any circumstances recommend going above the dose of 100mgs . Some people over time build up resistance to drugs and increase doses for desired results. I dont mean to sound like a preacher or someones old man on a bender but iam just trying to look out . It was an awesome ride tho :) i logged it ill tag ya Demgainz this is kinda like a yes i did that but please dont try it message . Ive been cycling for 15 yrs thats not an excuse just saying most of these compounds can produce astonishing results at low doses .
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I absolutely agree. People should actually run the lowest dose possible to achieve their desired results. My first run was a four weeker at 50/50/50/50. It was one of the best runs I ever did. Probably because it was my first. I understand. "Do as I say, not as I do" type of thing.
 
Demgainz said:
I absolutely agree. People should actually run the lowest dose possible to achieve their desired results. My first run was a four weeker at 50/50/50/50. It was one of the best runs I ever did. Probably because it was my first. I understand. "Do as I say, not as I do" type of thing.
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Awesome keep that mentality bro , you will go far ! Lots of bravo foxtrots on here .
 
startingout said:
lol I don't want you hurting yourself
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Straight outta Compton !!! There's a product log section with tons of good reads on cycles. Also theres a general chat area with some political talk and skepticism of all sorts . Pm me your interest and ill link you to a thread. I have to sleep very soon.
 
bighulksmash said:
Straight outta Compton !!! There's a product log section with tons of good reads on cycles. Also theres a general chat area with some political talk and skepticism of all sorts . Pm me your interest and ill link you to a thread. I have to sleep very soon.
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Nice thanks for helping the "new" guy I've read several of your cycles if interested I could help you kinda complex
 
Is DMZ 2.0 too harsh for a first time PH user? I was thinking about running this instead of Super Mandro/Andro stack.
 
zagsfan20 said:
Is DMZ 2.0 too harsh for a first time PH user? I was thinking about running this instead of Super Mandro/Andro stack.
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Epistane was my first, I loved it. Wish I ran it for 6 weeks and with a test base like dermacrine. Sdmz is far too much for a first, epistane or triumphalis would be really good as a first if you want to skip the andros, just dont forget a test base and I'd recommend running for 6 weeks with proper serm pct
 
NattyBoy said:
Epistane was my first, I loved it. Wish I ran it for 6 weeks and with a test base like dermacrine. Sdmz is far too much for a first, epistane or triumphalis would be really good as a first if you want to skip the andros, just dont forget a test base and I'd recommend running for 6 weeks with proper serm pct
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Whats a good a test base?
 
NattyBoy said:
Epistane was my first, I loved it. Wish I ran it for 6 weeks and with a test base like dermacrine. Sdmz is far too much for a first, epistane or triumphalis would be really good as a first if you want to skip the andros, just dont forget a test base and I'd recommend running for 6 weeks with proper serm pct
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Good advice right there.
 
NattyBoy said:
Dermacrine is what I'll be running with the dmz...What is your goals for this cycle, bulk cut or recomp?
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Bulk. I'm at about 5'9" 190lbs right now. Want to get up to about 200lbs. Then shed some of it off by the spring/summer. Just finishing up my first foray into SARM's. Taking Ostalean, quite honestly I'm not getting much out of it. I guess I'm a little stonger on a few of my lifts, but nothing like the hype these SARM's have.
 
zagsfan20 said:
Bulk. I'm at about 5'9" 190lbs right now. Want to get up to about 200lbs. Then shed some of it off by the spring/summer. Just finishing up my first foray into SARM's. Taking Ostalean, quite honestly I'm not getting much out of it. I guess I'm a little stonger on a few of my lifts, but nothing like the hype these SARM's have.
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Triumphalis would probably be better than epistane for mass as it increases glycogen retention better and increases appetite, but it's still going to be relatively lean/dry. Promagnon is also worth looking into, it is similar to halodrol but takes effect quicker and is a bit "wetter". Both of those compounds can easily give you 10lbs in a matter of 6 weeks at proper dosage and with a good pct such as clomid 50/50/25/25 with sup3r pct. Cycle support wise, lgi damage control and arimicare pro are both great. Having a test base is a great addition as many people will begin to feel shutdown towards week 3 on cycle. Having an ai like aromasin on hand is smart, as even though neither compound aromatizes, there is always a chance.
 
zagsfan20 said:
Bulk. I'm at about 5'9" 190lbs right now. Want to get up to about 200lbs. Then shed some of it off by the spring/summer. Just finishing up my first foray into SARM's. Taking Ostalean, quite honestly I'm not getting much out of it. I guess I'm a little stonger on a few of my lifts, but nothing like the hype these SARM's have.
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Do you have a proper pct setup for that cycle?? Ostarine is suppressive even though many companies claim otherwise. I have never cares for the sarms, I'd rather run a mild methyl with a good cycle support that includes tudca.
 
NattyBoy said:
Triumphalis would probably be better than epistane for mass as it increases glycogen retention better and increases appetite, but it's still going to be relatively lean/dry. Promagnon is also worth looking into, it is similar to halodrol but takes effect quicker and is a bit "wetter". Both of those compounds can easily give you 10lbs in a matter of 6 weeks at proper dosage and with a good pct such as clomid 50/50/25/25 with sup3r pct. Cycle support wise, lgi damage control and arimicare pro are both great. Having a test base is a great addition as many people will begin to feel shutdown towards week 3 on cycle. Having an ai like aromasin on hand is smart, as even though neither compound aromatizes, there is always a chance.
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Thanks man. How much earlier do I start the test base before I start the cycle?
 
zagsfan20 said:
Thanks man. How much earlier do I start the test base before I start the cycle?
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You can start the test base at the same time you start the cycle. I'm actually waiting until week 3 to run my dermacrine so I can utilize higher dosage without running two bottles, and from my experience, I begin to feel shutdown towards the end of week 3
 
NattyBoy said:
Do you have a proper pct setup for that cycle?? Ostarine is suppressive even though many companies claim otherwise. I have never cares for the sarms, I'd rather run a mild methyl with a good cycle support that includes tudca.
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No, the company I ordered from told me that it wasn't necessary. I'm having no loss of libido or any other kinds of sides. They sent me a free bottle of testoshred with it.
 
zagsfan20 said:
No, the company I ordered from told me that it wasn't necessary. I'm having no loss of libido or any other kinds of sides. They sent me a free bottle of testoshred with it.
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Ughh...If you can still get some nolva or clomid before it's too late that would be better but it's up to you. My favorite pct is just sup3r pct and serm of choice such as clomid 50/50/25/25
 
zagsfan20 said:
No, the company I ordered from told me that it wasn't necessary. I'm having no loss of libido or any other kinds of sides. They sent me a free bottle of testoshred with it.
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You shouldn't just go by what a company says. You should do your own research before you ingest any type of compounds especially compounds that are hormonal in nature. The general rule of thumb is to have all of your items needed for the actual cycle and the pct portion of the said cycle before you run it. That goes for everything from a standard cycle support supp to your typical run of the mill serm.

You have a lot of research to do buddy. "Don't blindly follow the sheep to the slaughter."
 
Demgainz said:
You shouldn't just go by what a company says. You should do your own research before you ingest any type of compounds especially compounds that are hormonal in nature. The general rule of thumb is to have all of your items needed for the actual cycle and the pct portion of the said cycle before you run it. That goes for everything from a standard cycle support supp to your typical run of the mill serm.

You have a lot of research to do buddy. "Don't blindly follow the sheep to the slaughter."
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Most companies probably will say that keeping in mind a serm is a prescription drug lol...They can't go around telling consumers to go out and illegally use a prescription drug
 
I do agree that there are a lot of companies that will spew this to the uneducated and ill informed user but it would be a lot more ethical even to say that the user should "follow proper pct protocol". It is generally all about the profit. The same can be said about the pharmaceutical companies.

This all brings me back to the original point of my post. The consumer should do his due diligence in researching what he or she ingests/consumes.

It does seem like this thread has almost spiraled out of control with a bunch of off topic posts so sorry to hijack it somewhat. You plan on running this in Jan/feb if I remember correctly?
 
Demgainz said:
I do agree that there are a lot of companies that will spew this to the uneducated and ill informed user but it would be a lot more ethical even to say that the user should "follow proper pct protocol". It is generally all about the profit. The same can be said about the pharmaceutical companies.

This all brings me back to the original point of my post. The consumer should do his due diligence in researching what he or she ingests/consumes.

It does seem like this thread has almost spiraled out of control with a bunch of off topic posts so sorry to hijack it somewhat. You plan on running this in Jan/feb if I remember correctly?
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Yup, I still need to get my serm and everything ready
 
Happy gains bro. I will follow along if you decide to log it. Looks good. I probably have a few more cycles left in me before either I decide to go the dark side route or trt.
 
Demgainz said:
Happy gains bro. I will follow along if you decide to log it. Looks good. I probably have a few more cycles left in me before either I decide to go the dark side route or trt.
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I'm also on the edge of considering a test cycle, but this one will probably be my last one for an easy 6 months-1 year lol
 
NattyBoy said:
I'm also on the edge of considering a test cycle, but this one will probably be my last one for an easy 6 months-1 year lol
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Do it! Test is great. So worth it.
 
I generally run about one a year but lately injuries are nagging the **** out of me. Dealing with everything my clavicle injuries to a hairline fracture in my forearm. I have been teetering on a test e cycle for a while but I have to wait regardless. Injuries suck donkey dick.
 
Demgainz said:
I generally run about 1 about one a year but lately injuries are nagging the **** out of me. Dealing with everything my clavicle injuries to a hairline fracture in my forearm. I have been teetering on a test e cycle for a while but I have to wait regardless. Injuries suck donkey dick.
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Dmz will be my second cycle, I just finished up epistane a couple months back
 
You notice any rebound on your epi run? A lot of people have experienced rebound on their epi runs from what I have read.
 
Hey NattyBoy will you be running alpha lab dmz? Did you consider running 1 andro instead of dermacrine?
 
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