dmz vs msten - shutdown

hyperCat

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Assuming equivalent dosing for each respective compound, which one is likely to shut you down harder - dmz or msten? I'm guessing msten for most people?
 
hyperCat said:
Assuming equivalent dosing for each respective compound, which one is likely to shut you down harder - dmz or msten? I'm guessing msten for most people?
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The dosing for each is incomparable....
 
hyperCat said:
Thank you for a straight up response to a basic question! Glad someone could understand the question and formulate a response without being an azzhole.
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lmao so it's our fault you don't understand biology and endocrinology? What you're asking can't be answered with a simple yes/no.
 
From what I read on very many forums, Msten shuts you down faster as far as mg to mg. But I run test E with every cycle so I've never experienced shut down.
 
"Shutdown" is an inaccurate term. Suppression is more valid as it's almost impossible to completely remove all natural test production.

Also, suppression doesn't mean you can't have functional sperm so that's a poor validation for level of suppression.

Op, it's not really a matter of which will suppress you more. Either one will suppress you to a great degree ( enough that it would be a nasty recovery without proper pct) so it really won't matter
 
booneman77 said:
"Shutdown" is an inaccurate term. Suppression is more valid as it's almost impossible to completely remove all natural test production.

Also, suppression doesn't mean you can't have functional sperm so that's a poor validation for level of suppression.

Op, it's not really a matter of which will suppress you more. Either one will suppress you to a great degree ( enough that it would be a nasty recovery without proper pct) so it really won't matter
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Ding ding ding.
 
And as Rhadam stated earlier, this is an impossible question to answer. It's case by case. Msten was my first cycle and although I'm sure it shut me down, I didn't feel my balls ache and shrink like I did about a week into DMZ. DMZ straight sucked them into my body...painfully!!
 
Rhadam said:
lmao so it's our fault you don't understand biology and endocrinology? What you're asking can't be answered with a simple yes/no.
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Oh my bad - didn't know we had to have a degree in biology and endocrinology to participate on this forum. It's all good tho, thanks for your time.
 
booneman77 said:
"Shutdown" is an inaccurate term. Suppression is more valid as it's almost impossible to completely remove all natural test production.

Also, suppression doesn't mean you can't have functional sperm so that's a poor validation for level of suppression.

Op, it's not really a matter of which will suppress you more. Either one will suppress you to a great degree ( enough that it would be a nasty recovery without proper pct) so it really won't matter
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Thanks for the info. I know everyone responds differently, but it's not unreasonable to say that most people would get much more suppressed on something like SD vs. halo. I was just wondering what the same comparison would be between dmz vs. msten, generally speaking. I've tried DMZ, and it took a lot longer to recover than most other ph's I've tried ( I ran clomid for pct ). I've not tried msten, so just looking for some comparisons from people who have run both.
 
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