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DMZ/Var

mikeymike85

mikeymike85

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Hey Amigos- I'm on week 5 of DMZ/Var. 30DMZ/60Var. Thinking of extending the DMZ another week out because I do not feel run down, pee is still clear. I've ran DMZ and my piss has been straight brown. Thoughts of another week of DMZ? Going to keep running the Var at 60 for another 2 weeks, making 8. Cheers.
 
I mean one week won’t kill you that’s for sure. Piss being clear is no sign of being healthy or not though as your liver could be under super big stress and if you’re drinking a massive amount of water your piss Could look just fine. But really one more week is fine as long as you let yourself heal up from orals after.
 
Cheers -- How do you really tell if your liver is under stress from orals? I guess I've read it wrong all these years.. lol.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Cheers -- How do you really tell if your liver is under stress from orals? I guess I've read it wrong all these years.. lol.
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i think how you feel and urine color are good indicators but not foolproof. If no issues there, id think its doubtful you liver is in too bad of shape.
 
Interesting stack...What are your results like thus far?

What are you taking on cycle health wise?
 
jrock645 said:
i think how you feel and urine color are good indicators but not foolproof. If no issues there, id think its doubtful you liver is in too bad of shape.
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I was going to say.... there has to be something else to "gauge" besides getting bloods? If the liver was under extreme tax, wouldn't there be "physical" signs?
 
Rad83 said:
Interesting stack...What are your results like thus far?

What are you taking on cycle health wise?
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I'm just taking a cycle support and Tudca. I drink on the weekends as well.. I feel great. I'm using some topical 4-AD as well, but I'm saving some of it for PCT because my Boa Constrictor hasn't been up and about. lol.

Also- I've ran this cycle 2 or 3 times before. I didn't want to run DMZ, but with this quarantine, I lost a lot of mass and got lazy. I like the glyco retention I get, so I would consider this a recomp. Strength gains are nice of course. I wanted to run Winny, but I'm nervous for my hairline. I would compare DMZ/Var to Triumphalis type results.

I'm going to take a few months off and I want to run something that is going to give me the "paper thin" skin look. I would have to say, the combination of the both, is probably one of the top cycles I have ran. Cheers.
 
mikeymike85 said:
I was going to say.... there has to be something else to "gauge" besides getting bloods? If the liver was under extreme tax, wouldn't there be "physical" signs?
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Under extreme tax? Not necessary because the liver is an absolute animal. But the usual symptoms are feeling nauseous day in day out, lethargic, yellow tint skin/eyes. Don’t worry if you have a healthy liver you aren’t going to stress enough your liver with dmz that the damage are irreversible. You’re fine. Unless you’re lying to us and you’re on a year straight dmz run like some idiots here.
 
johnny412 said:
i wasnt asking you i was asking mikeymike85 if he saw better fatloss with winnie...or var...im 53 i really dont need a smart ass reply to a simple question
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Of the 2, you are more likely to see a lower BF% on Winny (and probably look even leaner than you actually are).
... If you can handle the sides.
Winny is a fairly harsh steroid.
 
johnny412 said:
i wasnt asking you i was asking mikeymike85 if he saw better fatloss with winnie...or var...im 53 i really dont need a smart ass reply to a simple question
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The only smart ass and shitty response I see is yours. He simply said the truth. You asked a very stupid question and he was mannered enough to answer you properly without being a dick.
 
Mathb33 said:
Neither will make you lose more fat. Steroids don’t make you lose fat. At best they’ll boost your metabolism which will help.
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Although the simple statement, "Steroids don't make you lose fat" is true, different Steroids (everything else being equal), Can and sometimes Will produce different physical results.

That's kinda one of the benefits of having so many different kinds.

:)
 
Renew1 said:
Although the simple statement, "Steroids don't make you lose fat" is true, different Steroids (everything else being equal), Can and sometimes Will produce different physical results.

That's kinda one of the benefits of having so many different kinds.

:)
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Winnie and var will do the same thing in REALITY in a cut. The only reason Winnie looks better is because it brings the water out of you and makes you LOOK leaner than you are. That’s not getting leaner brother as soon as the drug is out of you you’re back to your normal. Diet will get you lean!!
 
Mathb33 said:
Winnie and var will do the same thing in REALITY in a cut. The only reason Winnie looks better is because it brings the water out of you and makes you LOOK leaner than you are. That’s not getting leaner brother as soon as the drug is out of you you’re back to your normal. Diet will get you lean!!
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So then we're back to: Then you believe that all steroids do the same thing (everything else being equal)?
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Oh, and dang ... We're gettin' pretty harsh around here. ^^^

😂
 
Renew1 said:
So then we're back to: Then you believe that all steroids do the same thing (everything else being equal)?
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Oh, and dang ... We're gettin' pretty harsh around here. ^^^

😂
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No. You’re playing with words trying to twist this. I’m saying purely for STAIGHT fat tissue loss, what will Winnie do more than anavar?? What actually do they do except boosting your metabolism?
 
@Renew1 and yes women are all the same. Some are fat, some are skinny. At the end of the day they all have a pussy and serve the same role. Get f***** and make sandwiches.
 
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Mathb33 said:
@Renew1 and yes women are all the same. Some are fat, some are skinny. At the end of the day they all have a pussy and serve the same role. Get f***** and make sandwiches.
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You forgot about the crazy part....they are all crazy....

Didnt want that left out....
 
Mathb33 said:
No. You’re playing with words trying to twist this. I’m saying purely for STAIGHT fat tissue loss, what will Winnie do more than anavar?? What actually do they do except boosting your metabolism?
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I'm a pretty honest guy, man.
I'm kinda known for that in the flesh and blood world.
... I honestly didn't try to twist anything.
I was being sincere.
That's my honest thoughts.
We'll just have to disagree on this one, brother.
 
Soooo .... Back to the original Thread subject.
.... I believe it was "Hoes".


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mikeymike85 said:
I'm just taking a cycle support and Tudca. I drink on the weekends as well.. I feel great. I'm using some topical 4-AD as well, but I'm saving some of it for PCT because my Boa Constrictor hasn't been up and about. lol.

Also- I've ran this cycle 2 or 3 times before. I didn't want to run DMZ, but with this quarantine, I lost a lot of mass and got lazy. I like the glyco retention I get, so I would consider this a recomp. Strength gains are nice of course. I wanted to run Winny, but I'm nervous for my hairline. I would compare DMZ/Var to Triumphalis type results.

I'm going to take a few months off and I want to run something that is going to give me the "paper thin" skin look. I would have to say, the combination of the both, is probably one of the top cycles I have ran. Cheers.
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Sounds good! Except I don’t think 4-AD belongs in pct ? Have you done that before with success?
 
What a bro-fest!
 
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