Dmz and Alpha-1 side effects

[Bigmatt57]

Running a dmz and alpha-1 cycle within the next few weeks. Dmz at 20mg everyday and alpha-1 at 20mg everyday. This would be my 2nd cycle, my first being epistane for 6 weeks up to 50mg everyday. And didn’t get any sides. For Cycle Support I’m running Rich Piana liver and organ defender and TUDCA. And for PCT I’m running AD-3 PCT along with nolvadex at 20/20/10/10. So what are some side effects I could experience from the dmz and alpha-1?

 

[AnabolicGuru]

You’ll just have to wait and find out. Everyone will get different side effects. You might get lethargy, back pumps, etc. I personally wouldn’t have stacked two strong orals like that, but I’m sure everything will work out fine.

 

[Bigmatt57]

You’ll just have to wait and find out. Everyone will get different side effects. You might get lethargy, back pumps, etc. I personally wouldn’t have stacked two strong orals like that, but I’m sure everything will work out fine.

Ya I was planning on just running DMZ but I hear it’s a hit or miss for a lot of people.

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Ya I was planning on just running DMZ but I hear it’s a hit or miss for a lot of people.

There was rumor of people being “non-responders” to it, but I can’t say whether or not it’s true.

 

[Renew1]

Ya I was planning on just running DMZ but I hear it’s a hit or miss for a lot of people.

Yeah bro, I really don't believe it to be hit or miss at all.
From everything I've seen and heard...it's all hit.

It's one of my favorite compounds right now, and I personally don't know anyone that hasn't responded to it.

 

[Renew1]

Yeah bro, I really don't believe it to bit hit or miss at all.
From everything I've seen and heard...it's all hit.

It's one of my favorite compounds right now, and I personally don't know anyone that hasn't responded to it.

And on DMZ And Alpha-1, like Guru said..who knows for sure.
My guess would be liver stress, blood pressure, and lipids.

 

[DennisC1986]

M1alpha was prob the strongest **** I've ever taken. It raised my blood pressure, gave me back pumps, and it's the only thing that ever brought me close to "roid rage".

 

[RickyBlobby]

It's ok to stack two, three, four, five methylated steroids at a time. As long as the cumulative dose does not exceed that of which is considered safe or normal.

Like 5mg sdrol, 5mg dmz, 5mg epi, 5mg alpha-1, 5 mg trestolone. To some it may sound bad, like ZOMG 5 METHYLS!!!!!!!!!! But you still have the same amount of methylated steroid molecules circulating through your system as, say a 40mg epi run.

 

[Renew1]

It's ok to stack two, three, four, five methylated steroids at a time. As long as the cumulative dose does not exceed that of which is considered safe or normal.

Like 5mg sdrol, 5mg dmz, 5mg epi, 5mg alpha-1, 5 mg trestolone. To some it may sound bad, like ZOMG 5 METHYLS!!!!!!!!!! But you still have the same amount of methylated steroid molecules circulating through your system as, say a 40mg epi run.

LOL. Yep.
Problem is....how often do we see anyone run those kinds of dosages?

I've seen it....but almost never.

To be honest...I've never tried a run like that. Have you, Ricky?
I'm just curious to hear how a run like that would really go (from somebody experienced).

 

[DennisC1986]

It makes sense in theory, at least as far as the toxicity. But for some reason and I dont have any evidence to back this up, I would imagine you'll get much better results from say 40mg of m1alpha rather than 5mg of sdrol, 5mg of epi, etc equalling 40mg. If someone has evidence to the contrary that's cool, that's just my thoughts on it

 

[christ83189]

I stacked dmz msten and m1a recently and with all support supps didnt get any neg sides except trouble sleeping at times. But got awesome results. And i dont see how anyone can not get anything out of dmz. Its my favorite oral. Amazing results from it every time

 

[RickyBlobby]

LOL. Yep.
Problem is....how often do we see anyone run those kinds of dosages?

I've seen it....but almost never.

To be honest...I've never tried a run like that. Have you, Ricky?
I'm just curious to hear how a run like that would really go (from somebody experienced).

I'm not sure, but my thinking is as long as there are X amount of steroid molecules in the system, your body doesn't care what they are and distributes them evenly throughout the body, where they do their thing. They all trigger muscle growth, so in theory whether you run 1 or 5 compounds the end result should basically be the same. Stacking is also a great way to reduce sides. 500mg of test may cause estro problems but 250 not nearly as likely. Likewise 10-20mg of SD is likely to put a hurtin on you but 5mg not so much. 45mg of epi is going to make your joints really dry, again, 20mg not so much.

It makes sense in theory, at least as far as the toxicity. But for some reason and I dont have any evidence to back this up, I would imagine you'll get much better results from say 40mg of m1alpha rather than 5mg of sdrol, 5mg of epi, etc equalling 40mg. If someone has evidence to the contrary that's cool, that's just my thoughts on it

I'ver read reviews of PH stacks with 4 or 5 compounds in them low dosed, with excellent reviews. Like 15-25lb gains in a 6 week cycle mix of wet and dry compounds. That's about all I can contribute.

 

[Bigmatt57]

Something I absolutely hate is increased heart rate when I take something( Shyt gives me anxiety thinking I’m gonna have a heart attack LOL) I didn’t get any increased heart rate on epistane, so do y’all think that alpha-1 or dmz will increase heart rate

 

[Nickespo89]

DMZ is awesome. Strength gains are great. I tend to cramp on it during workouts so I suggest lots of taurine 3-5g a day.

 

[Nickespo89]

Something I absolutely hate is increased heart rate when I take something( Shyt gives me anxiety thinking I’m gonna have a heart attack LOL) I didn’t get any increased heart rate on epistane, so do y’all think that alpha-1 or dmz will increase heart rate

It is possible it does give me some anxiety in higher doses

 

[Tenpack]

Thank u ive been wondering that for the longest time.thanks for putting it to rest.i