DMZ-15 Cycle Setup

6C The Second

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I've been debating for awhile about running another PH. I've decided I am going to and I the best choice seems to be DMZ-15.

Height: 6'3"
Weight: 191lbs
BF%: 10
Age: 25

I'm looking to gain 10-14lbs while keeping body day about the same to slightly higher.

Here is my setup:

On Cycle:
DMZ-15 30mg weeks 2-6
Cycle Assist by AI weeks 1-6
TUDCA weeks 2-6 @250mg/day
Fish Oil staple
Miracle Greens and Reds weeks 2-6

PCT:
Torem 120/90/60/30
Lean FX weeks 1-4
DAA 3g/day weeks 1-4
Nolvadren XT weeks 1-4
Creatine Mono weeks 1-8
L-Dopa weeks 1-8
Fish Oil staple
Miracle Greens and Reds weeks 1-4

I believe I've covered everything. I'm open to suggestions though.

I use a "FitBit" everyday. I burn 2,500-4,500/day depending on if its a work day or not. I eat 500cal above maintenance per day. On cycle I have heard to eat anywhere from 1,000-2,000 above maintenance. What number should I go with?

My macros currently are Carbs/Fat/Pro 45/25/30


Any input is appreciated.

Thanks!
 
stann123 said:
Looks perfect. Do you have enough to bump it to 45 mg?
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I'm thinking maybe do 2-3 days at 15mg, the remainder of 1st and 2nd week at 30mg and the 3rd and 4th week at 45mg. Would that produce better results?

Also, would Liver Armor suffice?

Each serving of 2 Liver Armor capsules contains:
Milk Thistle (80% Standardized Provides 400mg Silymarin) 500mg
N-Acetyl Cysteine 300mg
Alpha-Lipoic Acid 100mg
Proprietary Herbal Extract Blend 900mg
[Caper Bush (root), Chicory (seed), Black Nightshade (whole plant), Arjuna (bark), Yarrow (Aerial parts), Tamarisk (whole plant)]
 
Mystere3 said:
15 is useless, I'd go 30/45.
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I am just completing the same cycle, running 45mg a day. I started out at 30 then after a couple of weeks went to 45, I wish i would have started at 45 as I felt great on 45. My biggest issue was lack of appetite, I didnt keep a real close log as I was paying attention to everything else in the gym and a clean diet but the strength gains were very solid. I should have started with something for joints but went with animal flex which helped greatly.
 
I posted on another forum and people keep giving me **** about this cycle. Saying its a horrible set up and that Torem is horrible for PCT too...

Anyway, I'm adding Stano-200 into the mix. 600mg/day
 
6C The Second said:
I posted on another forum and people keep giving me **** about this cycle. Saying its a horrible set up and that Torem is horrible for PCT too...

Anyway, I'm adding Stano-200 into the mix. 600mg/day
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Well they are wrong my friend, your cycle looks good tho I would extend dmz to 5 weeks at that dosage. Torem is proven to be a great serm.
Also I would increase stano to 800-1g a day. I know it's expensive but well worth it.
 
reps4jesus said:
Well they are wrong my friend, your cycle looks good tho I would extend dmz to 5 weeks at that dosage. Torem is proven to be a great serm.
Also I would increase stano to 800-1g a day. I know it's expensive but well worth it.
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Thank you.
Cost is an issue, but I want to do this right, so I'll pay what I must.

Since there is already milk thistle and NAC is cycle support I ordered Live.52 DS opposed to TUDCA.

On a side note, I'm currently taking DAA@3g/day, nolvadren-xt 2/day and l-dopa 500mg/day. Can I drop that stack and jump straight to my cycle without problems?
 
6C The Second said:
Thank you.
Cost is an issue, but I want to do this right, so I'll pay what I must.

Since there is already milk thistle and NAC is cycle support I ordered Live.52 DS opposed to TUDCA.

On a side note, I'm currently taking DAA@3g/day, nolvadren-xt 2/day and l-dopa 500mg/day. Can I drop that stack and jump straight to my cycle without problems?
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^most definitely.
Im finishing up a run with dzine and trenavar (stano as well)...simply amazing.
Have a good run, man!
 
6C The Second said:
I posted on another forum and people keep giving me **** about this cycle. Saying its a horrible set up and that Torem is horrible for PCT too...

Anyway, I'm adding Stano-200 into the mix. 600mg/day
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IMO 600mg/day of stano doesn't really do much. It starts getting good at 800-1,000mg.

Trestobol is probably a better option if you're looking for a base to keep up libido and energy levels. It'll help with building muscle/losing fat as well, which stano really doesn't do.

Other than that your cycle looks awesome. Toremifene is my favorite SERM. Bloods always have shown that I'm on the path to recovery when I use it.
 
You should really get tudca. Milk thistle and nac are useless for protecting your liver from steroids.
 
Tomorrow marks day 14. I'm upping DMZ to 45mg for the remaining 4 weeks, Stano to 800mg for the next 2 weeks and 1,000mg for the last 2 weeks. No sides to speak of so far. At all. Nothing. Strength is up a lot and I'm up 10lbs so far. Although a lot of it is probably food/water. Libido is high as usual, sleep is fine, no anger problems. Lots of coworkers have said I look bigger. :)
 
6C The Second said:
Tomorrow marks day 14. I'm upping DMZ to 45mg for the remaining 4 weeks, Stano to 800mg for the next 2 weeks and 1,000mg for the last 2 weeks. No sides to speak of so far. At all. Nothing. Strength is up a lot and I'm up 10lbs so far. Although a lot of it is probably food/water. Libido is high as usual, sleep is fine, no anger problems. Lots of coworkers have said I look bigger. :)
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Sounds like everything is going great.
 
I think I might be running DMZ-15 too; I have yet to assemble everything like you 6C. Curious, why Torem and not Nolva?
 
going to start my dmz -15. should i split doses? i 15mg cap morning and one 12 hrs later or just take them both in morning?
 
10th day on lgi dmz-15 @30mg per day and nothin really spectacular. have put on about 2lbs. how long does it take? should i bump to 45? very minimal strength gains as well
 
fame126 said:
10th day on lgi dmz-15 @30mg per day and nothin really spectacular. have put on about 2lbs. how long does it take? should i bump to 45? very minimal strength gains as well
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Where ya buy it?
 
Mystere3 said:
First few days, within a week def. dmz 15 is $25 from nutriverse, it's not like it's expensive.
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^this....or check out dymethazi9e by olympus labs. Nutriverse has sweet deals all the time.

Think 10% off is SAVE10NOW
 
How di you take nolvadren on PCT? I think the best way is 0/0/4/4/2/2. Because if you stop serm and ai at the same Time there may be some estro rebound . Anyway wait and expert for more detail
 
Nonnopanno said:
How di you take nolvadren on PCT? I think the best way is 0/0/4/4/2/2. Because if you stop serm and ai at the same Time there may be some estro rebound . Anyway wait and expert for more detail
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Correct! Run the AI 2 weeks past your serm.
 
Just finished with finals so life has been hectic with physics and chemistry owning my life, except of course for my time i set aside for the gym. I didnt take any pictures or measurements but the strength gains have been consistent and good.

I started out looking to drop some weight but as my lifting progressed the weight was coming off so I tried the DMZ because it was relatively cheap and had good reviews.

My bench was rather weak since I was doing mainly cardio and high rep/low weights for an extended amount of time.

Started at: 135x10 warmup
155x10 warmup

175x10
185x10
205x10

I have been doing reps of 10 the last month or so as i superset often as i still want to drop more weight.

After about 10 days on the DMZ i noticed myself feeling stronger when lifting weights that I normally struggled with. My strength went up over the course of the cycle and at the end I am now doing:

135x10
155x10 Warmup

205x10
245x10
265x10

Decline dumbells also went from 75's to 110's, the largest my gym has available for 3 sets of 10. Incline went from 55's to 95's for 3 sets of 10.

I didnt log as school was rough this quarter but I plan on going on a more cut oriented cycle soon as i find something.
 
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