Disappointed, any ideas?

Actually, my libido increased significantly (no testicular shrinkage), and I also experienced some nipple sensitivity, i'm guessing that's from the propadrol being a progestin.
 
whats the science behind 1-3 minute breaks when bulking other then it allows you to fully recouperate, which in turn allows you to lift the greatest amount of weight. Just curious if someone who is knowledgable about this could explain it in more detail.
 
Actually, for bulking, the rest period is 30sec-2min, because that is the optimal timing for blood hormone levels ie test and HGH. Other than that, the longer the rest period, the more ATP and phosphocreatine is resynthesized, so more power there. I generally start getting mentally ready for a set at 90sec and start before the 2min mark
 
I have not done testing on length of breaks.. but really, I doubt it makes a noticable difference taking a 90sec break rather then a 2min break. As long as you feel ready to go.
 
Its probably just mental, but knowing that i havent had enough rest sets me up for defeat. just a tad OCD, especially with this stuff.
 
As far as rest between sets, what I've read that makes the most sense, based on the research, is that 2-3 minutes between sets is optimum in that you will be able to generate maximum power on the next set. Less than 2 minutes is not enough rest and waiting longer than 3 minutes does not provide enough additional benefit to justify the long break. I've put this to use and it works for me. For more info on the research, check out Max OT principles.

The only time I rest shorter than 2 min. is between warm up sets. But if you're on an anabolic cycle, this may all go out the window because your recovery time might be significantly shorter. That's my 2 pennies worth.
 
Gixxer82 said:
Lifting weights isn't all about maxing out. Obviously you want to lift heavy, but if you sacrifice form for heavy weights than you arn't doing yourself any good. Strict form is natural form. Strict form enables you to fully take advantage of the muscle you are trying to work. For example on chest exercises arching your back and squeezing your shoulder blades together opens up your chest and in doing so you utilize your enable your chest to do more of the lifting. I'm not saying lift light weights, i'm saying lift something heavy that you are comfortable with and can get 8-10 good solid slow reps. Every now and then I do max out but I increase on weight that I can rep with. I don't keep going heavier trying to get 3-4 reps.

I was also under the impression short intense workouts trigger most muscle response but Tom185 brought it up that for bulking you should give your body a min of 3 min between sets. He says he is a certified personal trainer. I still believe that you have to find what works for your body. What I do works for me, what you do works for you. We can argue this point til we are blue.
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I agree with your description of good form on bench, but too often people use "strict" to describe form on things like barbell curls, saying you HAVE to keep your elbows locked in one position and NEVER, EVER rock your upper body. This goes right along with the fallacy of being able to "isolate" a certain muscle, which is impossible. Personally, I don't agree with any of that because it's not a natural motion if I'm all locked up and it adds more stress to my joints. Now, someone can go to the other extreme and be all sloppy, which is no good either. There's a natural, controlled range of motion that I've found is best and not many people (in my gym at least) use it.

I've read posts by Tom185. I respect his opinion and he's obvioiusly gotten great results, but I don't understand how a different strategy for rest between sets can effect bulking versus some other weight training goal. If the 2-3 minute rest theory that I subscribe to is correct, then resting longer than 3 minutes wouldn't really affect your ability to generate power and build muscle. Just a thought.

By the way, thanks for the reps. That was very nice of you but you should watch your fvcking language...
 
For suggested rest periods, both the ACSM and NSCA suggest 30sec-2min for hypertrophy and 2-5min for pure str gains. These arent written in stone, but results of over hundreds of clinical studies, and should be looked at as guidelines.
 
G Train, what's your aas/ph history? Have you been able to gain muscle mass on your current diet without the anabolic substances?

To the rest period discussion, there is a difference between lifting for hypertrophy, strength, and power. Some see results when bulking with any of the 3 training plans. All 3 are valid lifting strategies for bulking IMO.
 
yeah i have been able to gain pretty moderately. I usually see a little difference almost each week. I'm making better str and size increases in my PCT than in the cycle. This was my first cycle.
 
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