Dimethandrostanol vs DMZ
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Ran them both, Ddrol twice and DMZ at least 4 times.
DMZ is what you want for a recomp, cut, bulk, max strength - basically any scenario it’s superior to Ddrol, except if you needed extra strength with barely any size change (like a weightclass-based sport such as powerlifting, fighting, etc). If you have room to gain even 5-6lbs, I would choose DMZ.
Ddrol needs a bit more mg to be less effective both as an anabolic or for extra strength (40-60mg/day), while still typically being fairly harsh on blood pressure, lipids, acid reflux. I’m not sure if it’s really as liver toxic as DMZ.
The counterpoint would be if you also needed to run it for a long time. DMZ will usually make you feel awful within a week or two, and as harsh as it is I’d definitely recommend not exceeding a month on it - you could probably do up to 6 weeks on Ddrol if needed. I lose my appetite within a week on DMZ. But you could take the DMZ for less time and still get more obvious results than Ddrol.
Ddrol is something I would stack in the last month before a powerlifting meet when I was cutting weight. DMZ was what I would use when I was trying to get more jacked.
DMZ is what you want for a recomp, cut, bulk, max strength - basically any scenario it’s superior to Ddrol, except if you needed extra strength with barely any size change (like a weightclass-based sport such as powerlifting, fighting, etc). If you have room to gain even 5-6lbs, I would choose DMZ.
Ddrol needs a bit more mg to be less effective both as an anabolic or for extra strength (40-60mg/day), while still typically being fairly harsh on blood pressure, lipids, acid reflux. I’m not sure if it’s really as liver toxic as DMZ.
The counterpoint would be if you also needed to run it for a long time. DMZ will usually make you feel awful within a week or two, and as harsh as it is I’d definitely recommend not exceeding a month on it - you could probably do up to 6 weeks on Ddrol if needed. I lose my appetite within a week on DMZ. But you could take the DMZ for less time and still get more obvious results than Ddrol.
Ddrol is something I would stack in the last month before a powerlifting meet when I was cutting weight. DMZ was what I would use when I was trying to get more jacked.
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I would use the same mg of Rad140 over Ddrol for basically any physique-based scenario. Much easier on the body, can be ran WAY longer, and similar in that in causes little weight gain, but it will produce better physique outcomes and still improves my strength. The only real side I get from RAD is heartburn. Also helps prevent prostate and gyno issues if used with testosterone & it’s very easy to acquire.
DMZ really is a heavy hitter.
But Dimethandrostenol is really a very narrow use case if we’re trying to be optimal. Only if someone wanted more power, had to use an oral only, couldn’t gain more than a couple lbs, only had 4 weeks to use, AND also couldn’t acquire more traditional AAS. I don’t intend to ever use it again, but I probably will use a little DMZ again at some point.
Stacks1
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How long can you take Rad 140 for? I think I'm going to finally take my first plunge into SARMS and I was thinking of running Rad 140 at the end of my next cycle. Would something like 20mgs for 8 weeks be a good dose and length?
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Yes, you’d notice some benefit with that knowing your cycle history, but you would stack it with your normal testosterone dose. With your experience you will be highly disappointed by SARMs solo.
Someone solo I would say at least 30mg for at least 8 weeks, ideally stacked with another SARM or escalating the dosage. I’m not a proponent of SARMs/Orals only, but if you do it you need to take enough to get something for all the lipid hit and body stress.
Stacks1
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It would probably be in combination with something like 400mgs test and maybe some 3-AD and 1-DHEA, which I have sitting in my stash. So maybe a 12 week cycle of test finished with the orals and TDs for the last 8 weeks. I haven't fully thought it out yet lol.
Hyde
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Yeah that would make sense to me then if desired. It’s not going to make a significant difference in tissue or size gains with or without it, but it will drive strength more over that 8 weeks if that’s a desired trait.