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Diesel Test while on TRT?

muscleupcrohn said:
Off topic, but if his election proved anything, it's that you can't blindly trust the media, haha. Which, incidentally, is something that holds true in the supplement world as well. Sorry for the tangent.

But seriously, how is this thread still going? Every time it looks like it's resolved and dying down, it comes back in full force. Maybe it should be put out or its misery.
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lol...while we are 'off topic' weren't there a bunch of scientists involved in those polls which were proven wrong? I guess it isn't only the media you shouldn't trust [completely]. science is data and facts-it's the humans interpreting them that are faulty, imo.
 
mmorso said:
Honestly bro I am sympathetic here and think that your attitude of "it works.. if you don't like that I don't disclose the ingredients don't buy my product," is fair enough. For real.. I don't have a problem with this at all.

I buy mainly OL products cause I think they've got some of the best sh1t out there and have only had great success with their products, which seems to be very similar to what others experience. I'll read the descriptions of products like Tr1umph or Ingit3 and have no fcking idea what the scientific claims mean, as I don't really understand how mTOR, cAMP, AMPK really work and am not going to pretend I do because it's fashionable to understand these things on AM... I'm just a normal dude trying to get big by working hard, eating right, and taking supplements/drugs to accomplish my goals. I think a lot of people on here are like me in this regard...

I think there are a lot of people who have read the extensive scientific data that indicates ingredients like CLA and glutamine have positive impact on body composition and have simply wasted their money on CLA and glutamine. So, personally, I mainly go off of anecdotal evidence when I buy sups because I want real world results.

Sorry if you got offended by me saying you lack the aptitude to explain the science or that your personality sucks. I'm not attacking you man, I just calls it like I sees it, and was trying to make a point that your attitude/personality has no bearing on if your products work or not. I was doing this because it seems like there have been a few ad hominem arguments in this thread that were a little irrelevant. I don't know if this makes sense or not, but me thinking your an asshle but still wanting to buy your products represents the demographic of consumers that keep you in business... you've pointed this out yourself but saying people want something that works.

Anyway, I mean no insult or disrespect, but when you tell us to eat a dck, I in turn think your an asshle, and think so not out of "jealousy" or being a "hater."

Take care man, I wish you and your company the best and look forward to running the 3 Kings Stack, which I've heard great things about.
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I understand; when I tell people to eat a dck, its because those people who have those things to say would either be told eat a dck in person, or get dropped. One or the other. Its one thing to be straight up like, "I used xyz and it didn't work for me, these are all the test boosters out that never worked for me" but when people come on here like "explain the science or I'm going to try to discredit your products that I have never used." Its basically "well use something else. Thats the real world. None of these people who have never had Subway for instance walk into a subway and start bitching about how their sandwiches suck, etc, etc. So I don't tell consumers to "eat a dck", I tell a-holes to eat a dck as I would if they was talking that sht in person. Its not about being diplomatic and trying to make everyone happy no matter what. They want the why my products work, or else they wont use them, f-off., like I said, the GET DIESEL target consumer is like yourself, someone who isn't on AM trying to be the next Pat Arnold by googling their way there. Its consumers who want to spend their money on results. You can say you don't like my personality, I don't take offense to that at all.

When you say "you lack the...." then its like....wait., you don't know what I lack type of deal. Only thing I lack is tolerance for BS and fake a$$ people. Potential customer or not, these other guys have no goals whats so ever to make any amount of gains or see any results from training. Their rational is strictly "I'm going to try to discredit Chuck and his products because I don't like his attitude to us fck boys."

Customers on here who have actually contacted me by email about a stack, my products, other products know I help them out way more than the help they get from other companies and don't BS them. Sometimes they call me like "I'm 18 I was thinking about procycle" and I'll tell them straight up, start with Hardcore which has a lower margin. You don't get that with other companies.

With that said, if you run the 3 kings, and follow the chart at fefifo.com under "stacks" I can guarantee you results that will exceed any legal test boosting stack you have ever used. All these other reps can talk a lot but can't guarantee sht.
 
thebigt said:
lol...while we are 'off topic' weren't there a bunch of scientists involved in those polls which were proven wrong? I guess it isn't only the media you shouldn't trust [completely]. science is data and facts-it's the humans interpreting them that are faulty, imo.
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Most polls are inherently biased IMO. An extreme example I like to give is if I go on a Mustang forum and ask if people prefer Mustangs or Camaros. Mustangs will proudly win. Now go on a Camaro forum and ask the same thing; just expect different results, haha. I also had a feeling that a lot of people in polls, and even primaries, were embarrassed to say they voted for Trump, but did in the actual election (you don't have to believe me though, haha). I wouldn't put these polls in the same category of "science" or "research" as well-performed and blinded studies of course, but yeah, it's easy enough to make numbers say what you want. That's what it's important that readers can read the methodology and the actual numbers/results/data, not just cherry-picked "analysis/conclusions."
 
Chuck Diesel said:
I understand, when I tell people to eat a dck, its because those people who have those things to say would either be told eat a dck in person, or get dropped. One or the other. Its one thing to be straight up like, "I used xyz and it didn't work for me, these are all the test boosters out that never worked for me" but when people come on here like "explain the science or I'm going to try to discredit your products that I have never used." Its basically "well use something else. Thats the real world. None of these people who have never had Subway for instance walk into a subway and start bitching about how their sandwiches suck, etc, etc. So I don't tell consumers to "eat a dck", I tell a-holes to eat a dck as I would if they was talking that sht in person. Its not about being diplomatic and trying to make everyone happy no matter what. They want the why my products work, or else they wont use them, f-off., like I said, the GET DIESEL target consumer is like yourself, someone who isn't on AM trying to be the next Pat Arnold by googling their way there. It consumers who want to spend their money on results. You can say you don't like my personality, I don't take offense to that at all.

When you say "you lack the...." then its like....wait., you don't know what I lack type of deal. Only thing I lack is tolerance for BS and fake a$$ people. Potential customer or not, these other guys have no goals whats so ever to make any amount of gains or see any results from training. Their rational is strictly "I'm going to try to discredit Chuck and his products because I don't like his attitude to us fck boys."
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You'd "drop" someone in person for, at worst, calling out your products/methodology? But I do have to give you credit for being "real" and not holding any punches, haha. If nothing else, it's somewhat, somehow, refreshing in today's society.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
You'd "drop" someone in person for, at worst, calling out your products/methodology? But I do have to give you credit for being "real" and not holding any punches, haha. If nothing else, it's somewhat, somehow, refreshing in today's society.
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I'm just telling y'all straight up. I'm from the south side of Chicago. All this cyber **** talking don't fly where I'm from. It may come across as its bothering me, but sht I'll tell my best friends to eat a dck is something coming out their mouth is useless or bogus. I am in no way angry. I got some good ass products. Whats there for me to be angry about?

As a matter of fact, Peach Mango and Pineapple Dieselade all natural BCAAs coming soon. Dieselade.com (cheap plug). ​

I wish people the best with whatever products they use. I don't want people wasting their money.

I have to update the stack instructions for 3 kings and double or nothing to show the new 128 tab hardcore versus the 80 tabs, so all my AM time going to that over the next 2 days. #getdiesel
 
Chuck Diesel said:
I'm just telling y'all straight up. I'm from the south side of Chicago. All this cyber **** talking don't fly where I'm from. It may come across as its bothering me, but sht I'll tell my best friends to eat a dck is something coming out their mouth is useless or bogus. I am in no way angry. I got some good ass products. Whats there for me to be angry about?

As a matter of fact, Peach Mango and Pineapple Dieselade all natural BCAAs coming soon. Dieselade.com (cheap plug). ​

I wish people the best with whatever products they use. I don't want people wasting their money.

I have to update the stack instructions for 3 kings and double or nothing to show the new 128 tab hardcore versus the 80 tabs, so all my AM time going to that over the next 2 days. #getdiesel
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So the "dropping" someone wasn't meant to be taken literally? If you're not angry, I'm not sure why you'd drop someone. I do like peach mango flavored things though. :)
 
Pineapple Dieselade all natural BCAAs[/B

I have been waiting on this for ever!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am down to about 10days worth of my last tub of Dieselade !!
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I love pineapple juice. I'll be keeping an eye out for taste reviews.
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There are no naturally flavored with no artificial sweetener BCAAs that taste half way decent, trust me. Now if you like tons
of ace-k and sucralose, and colors that will stain your mouth, then these other company BCAA products work fine.

Personally Pineapple was my last choice, I've never drank a pineapple supplement, but people apparently love pineapple.
Women love peach flavored anything.

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now these guys try to always find something to knock unless its a brand that spends big bucks advertising on their site, but I have emails from them saying they "love" my BCAAs...that type of stuff
never ends up in their articles.
 
I also updated these stacks for people who want to use them on TRT/HRT or for PCT which they are known for. No time to be going back in forth with reps...

The infamous Three Kings Stack now is charted for the Diesel Test Hardcore, the Procycle one was already up 2 date. The directions do not appear good on most cell
phones, only on PCs.

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Guaranteed results over other company legal test boosters. These reps can't guarantee sht. (new motto).
 
I enjoyed Finish Line. Naturally flavored BCAAs. Never mind. Lol. Both natural and artificial flaves.
But I do like a higher ratio like their 4:1:1 instead of 2:1:1. Prefer 10:1:1. I just add HICA. :) lol. j/k.

Id try a stack. Maybe I will win some Diesel in the yoga pants thread. :)
I would definitely log one of your BCAA products. Just finished Finish Line Log. Will wait and see flavors.


Edit: (Not asking for free product here.)
 
justhere4comm said:
I enjoyed Finish Line. Naturally flavored BCAAs. Never mind. Lol. Both natural and artificial flaves.

But I do like a higher ratio like their 4:1:1 instead of 2:1:1. Prefer 10:1:1. I just add HICA. :)

Id try a stack. Maybe I will win some Diesel in the yoga pants thread. :)

I would definitely log one of your BCAA products. Just finished Finish Line Log. Will wait and see flavors.
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All studies show 2:1:1 is better, mainly because you need isoluecine for leucine to work properly, but as leucine increases in the body it decreases isoleucine for some reason. If you used 4:1:1 you might as well just use all leucine. The most important thing you can and should take with BCAAs is glutamine_.

Not doing loggers unless they logged the other Dieselade flavors earlier this year or non-sponsored Diesels log in last 3 yrs.
 
mmorso said:
Chuck Diesel ya gonna have any Black Friday deals?
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Not sure, my prices at fefifo.com are not over inflated sug retail prices like most retailers, but I might throw out a coupon that Friday....stay tuned.

My stacks page has very good deals, so if I do they discount prob will not apply to the stacks, but not 100% sure.
 
I can vouch for Dieselade. I have the Strawberry Kiwi and it's extremely light and refreshing. Almost tastes like strawberry milkshake. I love the no artificial colors or flavors.

Pineapple should be great, I may grab Cherry Limeade next though.
 
cubsfan815 said:
I can vouch for Dieselade. I have the Strawberry Kiwi and it's extremely light and refreshing. Almost tastes like strawberry milkshake. I love the no artificial colors or flavors.

Pineapple should be great, I may grab Cherry Limeade next though.
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Cherry limeade wont be made again until end of 2017. I think it may be put there at some retailers. Go getdiesel.com and click "order now."
 
Chuck Diesel said:
There are no naturally flavored with no artificial sweetener BCAAs that taste half way decent, trust me. Now if you like tons
of ace-k and sucralose, and colors that will stain your mouth, then these other company BCAA products work fine.

Personally Pineapple was my last choice, I've never drank a pineapple supplement, but people apparently love pineapple.
Women love peach flavored anything.

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now these guys try to always find something to knock unless its a brand that spends big bucks advertising on their site, but I have emails from them saying they "love" my BCAAs...that type of stuff
never ends up in their articles.
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I dont think that PP article was knocking dieselade at all, in fact Mike (owner of PP) made some pretty fair comments, IMO and you scored above Xtend free.

I like dieselade personally, plus I like that your home site has really good international rates. So kudos on both of those
 
mmorso I am not sure about "Black Friday" deal but you can always use the code in my signature for a discount.
 
Jiigzz said:
I dont think that PP article was knocking dieselade at all, in fact Mike (owner of PP) made some pretty fair comments, IMO and you scored above Xtend free.

I like dieselade personally, plus I like that your home site has really good international rates. So kudos on both of those
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I was talking more about the xlithol comments. Its said something like my product was cheating because it had xylithol and it can make ppl stomach hurt because its a sugar alcohol. There is like 200mg of xylithol in Dieselade, thats like 1/3 a piece of sugar free candy. But I'll take it. All I know is these new flavors are ri-di-cul-ous. I approved the blended samples this AM before packaging. The pineapple breeze is going to make all the "I love artificial everything" ppl switch. It taste like pineapple pound cake.

They def. don't taste like "uggh...but its natural" type of products. Hopefully they are shipping by 28 Nov, from now until after Christmas, people check out mentally at production jobs.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
I was talking more about the xlithol comments. Its said something like my product was cheating because it had xylithol and it can make ppl stomach hurt because its a sugar alcohol. There is like 200mg of xylithol in Dieselade, thats like 1/3 a piece of sugar free candy. But I'll take it. All I know is these new flavors are ri-di-cul-ous. I approved the blended samples this AM before packaging. The pineapple breeze is going to make all the "I love artificial everything" ppl switch. It taste like pineapple pound cake.

They def. don't taste like "uggh...but its natural" type of products. Hopefully they are shipping by 28 Nov, from now until after Christmas, people check out mentally at production jobs.
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good stuff!!!
 
Chuck Diesel said:
I was talking more about the xlithol comments. Its said something like my product was cheating because it had xylithol and it can make ppl stomach hurt because its a sugar alcohol. There is like 200mg of xylithol in Dieselade, thats like 1/3 a piece of sugar free candy. But I'll take it. All I know is these new flavors are ri-di-cul-ous. I approved the blended samples this AM before packaging. The pineapple breeze is going to make all the "I love artificial everything" ppl switch. It taste like pineapple pound cake.

They def. don't taste like "uggh...but its natural" type of products. Hopefully they are shipping by 28 Nov, from now until after Christmas, people check out mentally at production jobs.
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Oh yeah I see. Glazed over that part because one it wasn't important to me.

It tastes good and I have no issues with it at all
 
Jiigzz said:
Oh yeah I see. Glazed over that part because one it wasn't important to me.

It tastes good and I have no issues with it at all
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Yeah true. They good ppl off the record. I know its a business. But its like dnt be making ppl think some xylithol gonna make their stomach hurt when all that other sht full of ace-k and sucralose that gives ppl headaches like no other day. Its cool tho. These new ones boomin! I swear imma switch some "idc if it works I only care about taste" conumers over so I'm content.

Also thanks for trying them out.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
There are no naturally flavored with no artificial sweetener BCAAs that taste half way decent, trust me. Now if you like tons
of ace-k and sucralose, and colors that will stain your mouth, then these other company BCAA products work fine.

Personally Pineapple was my last choice, I've never drank a pineapple supplement, but people apparently love pineapple.
Women love peach flavored anything.

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now these guys try to always find something to knock unless its a brand that spends big bucks advertising on their site, but I have emails from them saying they "love" my BCAAs...that type of stuff
never ends up in their articles.
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Give you credit your bcaas are pretty awesome like the way you made it and I received a sample from a friend and they do taste good
 
rtmilburn said:
Give you credit your bcaas are pretty awesome like the way you made it and I received a sample from a friend and they do taste good
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Thanks for trying them. I should have the two new flavors for sale at places by wed this week. Or Friday/Monday w the holiday.
 
**** get diesel black friday discounts at fefifo.com go live wed eve along w the long awaited release of Dieselade Peach Mango and Pineapple Breeze. #getdiesl. Dieselade.com
 
Chuck Diesel what's the deal with the whole 3 kings stack directions? I just printed them out and noticed that there are days when you say to not take certain products... I'm just curious as to why..
 
I cant see post in last 24h bc this app fcked up. PM me the 3 kings question. I can only see thr preview. I did recently updare the direction. It may b off a pill or 2.
 
See. This is all i see. I also cant like post on android in the app
 

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mmorso said:
Chuck Diesel what's the deal with the whole 3 kings stack directions? I just printed them out and noticed that there are days when you say to not take certain products... I'm just curious as to why..
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Bc you dont take the products every single day. Even when used alone. You cycle them to optimize test production to minimize the HTPA loopback. Trust me. The directions work. Been selling that stack for about 7 yrs. Ppl love it.
 
wow a couple of haters on here with no experience with the product and giving their input. let me just say i went from beating off maybe 2 times a week to 5 times a day when i went on this product. I didn't think about it until about 10 days in why i was so horny and my dick was raw. this is my pct go to now always and I have used "the best" ones and newest but have come back to this product. never got free **** from Chuck, and not looking to get free **** either writing this review. i felt better and i would say it worked for me as that is what i was looking for. you buy a test booster for sense of well being, and agression, and maybe to free up some bound test. I know it does the first two in my case at least and no other test booster worked this good.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Bc you dont take the products every single day. Even when used alone. You cycle them to optimize test production to minimize the HTPA loopback. Trust me. The directions work. Been selling that stack for about 7 yrs. Ppl love it.
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Follow the directions, It Works !!
 
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