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Diesel Test while on TRT?

Brandinooooo said:
I was towards the end of my 4 week Clomid pct when I hopped on it. Noticed a massive difference within the first 2 days.
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Well, we know it wasn't anything to do with Total T, as Clomid probably had you over 1000ng/dl, and this stuff is only good for ~250pts when near hypo-g. You think it was Free T? It would be nice to see if you can achieve the same "feeling" with some bulk Long Jack and some affordable Stinging Nettle Extract caps - both have purported SHBG lowering affects (effects? failed English), and both are also found in that AgeForce patch that StanleyG ran blood work on, showing a nice jump in Free T.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Well, we know it wasn't anything to do with Total T, as Clomid probably had you over 1000ng/dl, and this stuff is only good for ~250pts when near hypo-g. You think it was Free T? It would be nice to see if you can achieve the same "feeling" with some bulk Long Jack and some affordable Stinging Nettle Extract caps - both have purported SHBG lowering affects (effects? failed English), and both are also found in that AgeForce patch that StanleyG ran blood work on, showing a nice jump in Free T.
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Effects lol.

Ill find the paper when I wake up and post what it was. I was still feeling suppressed during the Clomid pct.
 
Danes said:
I see Get Diesel Hardcore contain Schisandra as an example. May I ask Why you added it to a test boosting product?
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Nope. You can use raw test if you want a product without it. My job on here isn't to break down every ingredient or every syngestic combination of a Get Diesel product. Only thing it does is help other ppl make beter products. For yrs I never went into the "why this or that bc I don't see it in other test boosters."
 
Danes said:
The main concern for me is all those 30+ ingredients in a blend and not even knowing the standarization of them (and the exact dose on each ingredient too).

2.main points :

1. quality ingredients (standarized to main components)
2. Solid dose / clinical doses etc


I am not buying statements like:
-"Hey bro I have been in this game more than 10 years and I know what I am doing".

-"Self made award winning marketing stuff"

-"pharma grade ingredients"

Do you see any warning lights? I do.
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Ok then I'd suggest you use something else. My target consumer is training for results and to smash PRs. So they buy supplements based
on "does this work...will I see results compared to other similar products....its it priced competitively."

I've had tons of guys shut down like no other day from cycles and prosteroids use my test boosters over the yrs to regain motivation, drive and their dck. Not one goes "hey im shut down pretty bad. I heard Diesel Test works...but tell me...why is Schisandra in here??" Haha

What are your supplement and training goals?
 
Someone quote me a post where I said Diesel Test works bc it has X number of ingredients. That doesn't make sense. I said if you want a strip down version of procycle, use Raw Test. It only has about 6 ingedients for you ingredient counters. It actually has more Long Jack pill for pill than procycle and is along the lines of most company's test boosters. It just doesnt "work" as well as procycle. Its a "tap up" product thats stacked w procycle or hardcore. Its perfect for you ingredient counters. But people who want the best put will go w procycle or hardcore.
 
Chuck Diesel man you are coming off as such an abrasive tool! Not to mention not very knowledgeable either. Most everyone in this thread has tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but when faced with any questions that about your product; you give the most run around answers. I mean come on!
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Ok then I'd suggest you use something else. My target consumer is training for results and to smash PRs. So they buy supplements based
on "does this work...will I see results compared to other similar products....its it priced competitively."

I've had tons of guys shut down like no other day from cycles and prosteroids use my test boosters over the yrs to regain motivation, drive and their dck. Not one goes "hey im shut down pretty bad. I heard Diesel Test works...but tell me...why is Schisandra in here??" Haha

What are your supplement and training goals?
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I am asking you very simple question.

Why do you use Schisandra in your Test boosting product?

My training goal is more size, and the understanding of ingredients/ products, i dont expect any huge "wow" effect from a ingredient/supplement for size.
Making a natural anabolic product is not like making a PWO with lot of strong stims. That kind of product, you can feel from day one.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Nope. You can use raw test if you want a product without it. My job on here isn't to break down every ingredient or every syngestic combination of a Get Diesel product. Only thing it does is help other ppl make beter products. For yrs I never went into the "why this or that bc I don't see it in other test boosters."
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Typical answer from someone without having a good answer. :)
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Someone quote me a post where I said Diesel Test works bc it has X number of ingredients. That doesn't make sense. I said if you want a strip down version of procycle, use Raw Test. It only has about 6 ingedients for you ingredient counters. It actually has more Long Jack pill for pill than procycle and is along the lines of most company's test boosters. It just doesnt "work" as well as procycle. Its a "tap up" product thats stacked w procycle or hardcore. Its perfect for you ingredient counters. But people who want the best put will go w procycle or hardcore.
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First of all, Raw Test is the only product where almost all ingredients have Test Boosting properties. ProCycle has MANY ingredients but many of those have not any test boosting properties at all.
You said raw has more TA pill for pill than procycle. That is great. Making it even better test booster than Procycle and other of your products.

1. Tongkat Ali is definitely one of the best test boosting ingredients and it has better data supporting it than any other ingredients / compounds.

2. TA is not just TA. It has to be standarized for main quassinoids etc.

3. If my main goal is to increase T levels, Raw Test would be better opinion that other of your products.

4. If the goal is T boosting properties, getting more energy, having adaptogen effect etc (all in one product) then Procycle would be better choice than Raw Test.
That is why I asked a simple question about schisandra in your product. If you knew about schisandra, you could write simple as "great adaptogen". But you came with childish answer.

You are more than welcome to PM me anytime. I will gladly help you with ingredients etc.
 
Ok and you sound like this:

"I heard this place has the best lasagna in NYC...but what I would like to know is why is ingedient X In here and how much of your sauce is actual tomatoes?" Haha. Use something else bro.
 
Danes said:
I am asking you very simple question.

Why do you use Schisandra in your Test boosting product?

My training goal is more size, and the understanding of ingredients/ products, i dont expect any huge "wow" effect from a ingredient/supplement for size.
Making a natural anabolic product is not like making a PWO with lot of strong stims. That kind of product, you can feel from day one.
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Use something else. Let me know how it works for you. Thanks.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Ok and you sound like this:

"I heard this place has the best lasagna in NYC...but what I would like to know is why is ingedient X In here and how much of your sauce is actual tomatoes?" Haha. Use something else bro.
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Thats not at all what he's saying.

He's saying "This place says they have the best Lasagna because they've been making it for ten years so 'it has to be good', but his lasagna has broccoli, roast beef, pickles, mayonnaise, and a whole bunch of other stuff that doesn't really belong in lasagna... How is it the best Lasagna out there?"
 
Woody said:
Thats not at all what he's saying.

He's saying "This place says they have the best Lasagna because they've been making it for ten years so 'it has to be good', but his lasagna has broccoli, roast beef, pickles, mayonnaise, and a whole bunch of other stuff that doesn't really belong in lasagna... How is it the best Lasagna out there?"
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Aaah you are describing it perfectly!
 
Danes said:
Aaah you are describing it perfectly!
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Oh, and when you ask them about why their lasagna has mayonnaise in it, he tells you he's not going to explain every ingredient because it would help out his competition [even though none of the competition would ever put mayonnaise in lasagna] and that he's been making lasagna for 10 years so if it wasn't good it wouldn't sell.

Even though this is slightly misleading because he's changed his lasagna recipe multiple times in those 10 years.

Also - I don't really care about your product. I'm just trying to help you understand how ludicrous you look when you defend your product. Almost like you know less about the ingredients you use than most people on this forum. Oh, and science matters... You know if an ingredient boosted test in multiple scientific studies and has actual data backing it up... That's important.
 
Woody said:
Oh, and when you ask them about why their lasagna has mayonnaise in it, he tells you he's not going to explain every ingredient because it would help out his competition [even though none of the competition would ever put mayonnaise in lasagna] and that he's been making lasagna for 10 years so if it wasn't good it wouldn't sell.

Even though this is slightly misleading because he's changed his lasagna recipe multiple times in those 10 years.
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You Sir should be famous writer !

I will release a new PWO where everything is in a blend and if I get questions such as :
1. Why is it in a blend/dont know how much is it of each ingredient
2. Why do you have Carnitine in your PWO

I will answer such as:
I am using blend due to Competitors (that way, they dont know how they can steal my formulation) and I cant tell you why I am using Carnitine because I will not explain all ingredients. It will remain my own little secret...

That is the easiest way to avoid questions because lack of knowledge.

There is no rep that would avoid answering my questions about dose/ingredients they put in their product. And there is no secret either. Thats why it is Label on products.
 
How are supplement formulation and making lasagna analogous? I was unaware that the ingredients in lasagna are intended to have physiological effects and have dose-response curves.
 
I think we all need to take a step back

Get Diesel Products Work, Just like KFC it's a secret recipe, if you need a test booster give it a try, if it works buy it again, if not, try something else.

End Of Story....Now please move on !!

Thank you !!
 
Hahahah i dnt need to PM you Danes. I got the best test boosters out. You should be pretty much done in this thread. Diesel test isnt for you or woody.
 
Rocket3015 said:
I think we all need to take a step back

Get Diesel Products Work, Just like KFC it's a secret recipe, if you need a test booster give it a try, if it works buy it again, if not, try something else.

End Of Story....Now please move on !!

Thank you !!
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actually its not really a secret lol

[video]http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/88140270-132.html[/video]
 
Rocket3015 said:
I think we all need to take a step back

Get Diesel Products Work, Just like KFC it's a secret recipe, if you need a test booster give it a try, if it works buy it again, if not, try something else.

End Of Story....Now please move on !!

Thank you !!
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When it comes to Supps, there is no secret recipe. Why is label made for?
No one here is saying Get Diesel products are not working but we are shaking our heads when we see fake accounts posting this kind of thread claiming Test went from 800 to 1500 thanks to Get Diesel Product.

I also need to shake my head when the owner cant answer some of most simple questions. And trying to talk around it..
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Hahahah i dnt need to PM you Danes. I got the best test boosters out. You should be pretty much done in this thread. Diesel test isnt for you or woody.
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My last post in this thread is.
Did you actually know some of your products such as ProCycle contain iingredients which actually lower absorption/bioavailability of some other ingredients in the product?

Good luck with your formulation skills. It really seems like you know what you are doing
 
I don't have to answer your questions. Thanks. Cya
 
Send the product to me. Ill run bloods before and after. Based in the UK btw. Cant let this thread end lile this! Will want 8 wk supply to make it worthwhile
 
ucheoma said:
Send the product to me. Ill run bloods before and after. Based in the UK btw. Cant let this thread end lile this! Will want 8 wk supply to make it worthwhile
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I want a Mercedes to drive for 2 years to see if it is worth the cost. will want a CL65 AMG COUPE to make it worthwhile...:lmao:
 
thebigt said:
I want a Mercedes to drive for 2 years to see if it is worth the cost. will want a CL65 AMG COUPE to make it worthwhile...:lmao:
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Hahaha
 
Can I get a Hellcat ????
 
challenger- Please !!
 
thebigt said:
I want a Mercedes to drive for 2 years to see if it is worth the cost. will want a CL65 AMG COUPE to make it worthwhile...:lmao:[/QUOTE

Ha. Depends whether were talking Mercedes Coupe or a Chinese car manufacturer knock off job. In all seriousness if you want someone with no skin in the game to give an honest impartial assessment backed by bloods just say. And for the avoidance of doubt im offering to payfor thebloodwork. One test is more expensive than your top end test booster. Just putting it out there. I aint scarpering with your product. Pm me if you want to fix an arrangement.

Ive been thinking of taking bloods anyway to see where things sit as its been a while since my last bloods
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[video=youtube;R8OWNspU_yE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE[/video]


Iam your huckleberry ;) might as well share my wants and needs too :0
 
So?? Silence from the organ grinder?

What a shame. Limp reeponses to questions and proposals.Not a good spotlight for the brand i think in this thread.
 
ucheoma said:
So?? Silence from the organ grinder?

What a shame. Limp reeponses to questions and proposals.Not a good spotlight for the brand i think in this thread.
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Who is the being directed to? If me you can make these types of statements to try to get what you want but its useless. Im not sending a bunch of smart mouth cyber ppl Diesel Test because if I don't they will question the ingredients. Gtfoh. Idk even know how this turned into the "hey send me some Diesel Test" thread. There are enough post on here with test over the last 10yrs. I offered to send Danes some, he just kept running his mouth but never PMed me his address. Thanks for volunteering but there are tons of terrible test boosters you can post in their threads for you to send them some and you will do bloods. That may be more productive since there are other test boosters promoted on AM with no users who have posted any hormone test results at all.

Cya also bro.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Who is the being directed to? If me you can make these types of statements to try to get what you want but its useless. Im not sending a bunch of smart mouth cyber ppl Diesel Test because if I don't they will question the ingredients. Gtfoh. Idk even know how this turned into the "hey send me some Diesel Test" thread. There are enough post on here with test over the last 10yrs. I offered to send Danes some, he just kept running his mouth but never PMed me his address. Thanks for volunteering but there are tons of terrible test boosters you can post in their threads for you to send them some and you will do bloods. That may be more productive since there are other test boosters promoted on AM with no users who have posted any hormone test results at all.

Cya also bro.
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Since you are mentioning me:
I am actually going to run 2 month with Raw (which I mean is your best Test booster and I am buying it with my own money) and not a product with 30+ ingredients where 80% has no T boosting effect at all. And good thing is (as you said) it has more TA Pill by pill than other of your products.

I will prove you that my T levels will go MAX 200 . Not even that !
And before you come with those statements such as:
"procycle etc stronger product"
Well some how yes. You will feel more from it due to stims but for T boosting effect, it is just wrong.

And I am not buying those statements :
"Hey my products has been around 10 years And I have been in this game even longer"
I have seen many clowns on different forums who have been longer in this game longer than 10 years but they are still clowns and dont know what they are doing actually.
So you have been making products 10 years.
That is not making you or any other any better than lets say some who has been running company 2 years or less. Its not the duration but inovation and QUALITY! Quality is not a blend of 30+ ingredients where you dont know any dose of each ingredient or standarization.
I would proudly say "hey my schisandra is standarized for Schizandrins at xx% etc".
What do we know? Maybe your procycle is full of low quality TA powder with some of yohimbe and other stims ? "Hey you can feel it bro".

Asking a simple question such as why you added schisandra to your product, you answered like its a secret. But even a moron knows Schisandra is an adaptogen. Like I said before and I am saying now too, feel free to PM anytime and I will help you with formulation. You have been generous (wanted to send me products and I appreciate that).
 
Danes said:
Since you are mentioning me:
I am actually going to run 2 month with Raw (which I mean is your best Test booster and I am buying it with my own money) and not a product with 30+ ingredients where 80% has no T boosting effect at all. And good thing is (as you said) it has more TA Pill by pill than other of your products.
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Comments like this is why I will say; test what you want, but if you haven't yet, I'd prefer you to test something else. I'm not a fan of dumb consumers.
I never stated Raw Test is my best test booster. I said "Raw Test is a stripped down version of procycle and doesn't work as good as procycle or hardcore and is more comparable to these other test boosters other companies put out."

Good luck with your run tho'
 
Woody said:
So not only do you dodge every question about your product... not only can you not explain the science behind your product. You also insult consumers who question your products.

Wow. Classy!
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This goes for you also bro. Send him the Olympus test booster to log and do blood work on. No idea why you haven't even suggested that. People been trying the "you dodge questions blabla bull sht insult customers bs" for years. Real consumers know I am a stand up guy with some good ass products, all the rest of y'all can eat a d**k. Guess what, I can say that because my goal here isn't to gain customers by kissing ass and false promises with BS ass write ups. Its to be accessible to the people who use my product for a purpose.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Comments like this is why I will say; test what you want, but if you haven't yet, I'd prefer you to test something else. I'm not a fan of dumb consumers.
I never stated Raw Test is my best test booster. I said "Raw Test is a stripped down version of procycle and doesn't work as good as procycle or hardcore and is more comparable to these other test boosters other companies put out."

Good luck with your run tho'
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Haha you are definitely not reading my posts properly!!! I do actually apologize my bad english but I thought I was making my self pretty clear.
It is ME who is saying your best T booster is actually Raw!!!!!
You said it contain more TA pill by pill than any of your products. And what is the best T boosting ingredient right now?TA!.
I said RAW is the best T boosting product you have. Procycle has more ingredients but most of them will do nothing to testosterone! I think you really need to learn basic before you sell anything !
Procycle has stims and adaptogens and thats why people feel it even from day one!not due to sick T increasing levels.

Good luck with your knowledge
 
Danes said:
Haha you are definitely not reading my posts properly!!! I do actually apologize my bad english but I thought I was making my self pretty clear.
It is ME who is saying your best T booster is actually Raw!!!!!
You said it contain more TA pill by pill than any of your products. And what is the best T boosting ingredient right now?TA!.
I said RAW is the best T boosting product you have. Procycle has more ingredients but most of them will do nothing to testosterone! I think you really need to learn basic before you sell anything !
Procycle has stims and adaptogens and thats why people feel it even from day one!not due to sick T increasing levels.

Good luck with your knowledge
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You're telling me which product works the best and you haven't used either one of them??
 
Chuck Diesel said:
This goes for you also bro. Send him the Olympus test booster to log and do blood work on. No idea why you haven't even suggested that. People been trying the "you dodge questions blabla bull sht insult customers bs" for years. Real consumers know I am a stand up guy with some good ass products, all the rest of y'all can eat a d**k. Guess what, I can say that because my goal here isn't to gain customers by kissing ass and false promises with BS ass write ups. Its to be accessible to the people who use my product for a purpose.
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OL does not make false accounts where they claim their T booster will work better than real testosterone.
If that day come, I will personaly serve same "granate" on them like I do on you and your bs
 
Chuck Diesel said:
This goes for you also bro. Send him the Olympus test booster to log and do blood work on. No idea why you haven't even suggested that. People been trying the "you dodge questions blabla bull sht insult customers bs" for years. Real consumers know I am a stand up guy with some good ass products, all the rest of y'all can eat a d**k. Guess what, I can say that because my goal here isn't to gain customers by kissing ass and false promises with BS ass write ups. Its to be accessible to the people who use my product for a purpose.
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1) Olympus Labs products are formulated with actual science using ingredients that are proven to be effective. We don't throw a bunch of stuff in a pot and hope for the best.

2) You're acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum because the big bad forum guys are giving poor whittle chucky a hard hard time about his oddly formulated products

3) You're not even accessible about your products. You refuse to shed any insight into your product to anyone who asks. You dodge questions about science. You give run around answers. And you insult consumers. Apparently you just want mindless sheep to purchase your products and not question if you even know how to formulate because the second someone asks an intelligent question about your products you have a complete personality shift.
 
Danes said:
OL does not make false accounts where they claim their T booster will work better than real testosterone.
If that day come, I will personaly serve same "granate" on them like I do on you and your bs
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I liked this post for you, now go away bro.
 
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