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Chuck... Why no more nettle?

Yea Chuck, why did you lie to me (the paying customer) and tell me nothing changed in the formula besides argenine in place of the bulkier gelatinized maca. Are you lying, or am I taking your words out of context???..this reminds me of a similar situation
 
dont worry I didnt lie, I explained myself above.

And if you look in the Mass FX log you will see I have noted at least once that DTH is the best for libido, but the muscle hardness on Mass FX is better. I also kind of feel the strength gains I got from DTH were becuase I was on ETHER too, now im on no creatine (so its hard to make a truly accurate gauge of which is better for strength, but fact is Im hitting new weights and reps without creatine while on Mass FX, which is nice)

Also, if you read my DTH logs you will see I noted an overwhelming feeling of well being, that is not mentioned once in my MAss FX log.

So I suppose for me to say I prefer one to the other was not the best way to put it, as both have their distinct advantages over the other.

Sorry for the confusion Chuck. My comparison isnt the best since I used DTH and Ether simultaneously.
i was only playing bud...
 
EDIT:^^^Ok I put this in my Mass FX log, so all is clear now Charles.
I just wanted clarification because I didnt know you were "Swolen One" over ther at bb.com and I have seen tons of logs from you so I wanted clarification on what you were saying either way.
 
Chuck... Why no more nettle?

Wasnt more important than increasing the Long Jack (which went up with this red bottle versus the first DTH white bottle).

Also nettle give some people including myself "nettle rash" which I didnt really know about, I just know when I would start taking the white bottle with nettle and when I would use the first DT2010 that had nettle I would breakout on my hands and legs and I just thought it was something I ate that might have been cooked with shell fish (I cant have shell fish or I break out and start throwing up). So anyway I took some of the white bottle DTH pills and the same thing happen.

When DT2010 was out I thought it was the long jack doing it but it was nettle.

It doesnt happen when I take TTE, but they had different extracts. I just know there is something called nettle rash.
 
Yea Chuck, why did you lie to me (the paying customer) and tell me nothing changed in the formula besides argenine in place of the bulkier gelatinized maca. Are you lying, or am I taking your words out of context???..this reminds me of a similar situation

I dont lie to consumers, nothing changed from the net effects on test levels per se. There is a basic formula with DT over the past formulas that has to stay constant. Nettle isnt part of that formula...but on this red bottle version Long Jack, Tribulus, dodder seed were all increased as well as 4 other ingredients.....way more important to the DTH formula than nettle.

For instance people liked the white bottle DTH but it wasnt causing nearly as much reports of aggression (there were some but no where near as much as red bottle DTH) as this red bottle DTH. If your taking a herbal test booster and do feel an increase in aggression.......its not as "strong" as it could be.

Like I said in reguards to the arginine that space came avail. from going from whole maca to 12:1.
 
I dont lie to consumers, nothing changed from the net effects on test levels per se. There is a basic formula with DT over the past formulas that has to stay constant. Nettle isnt part of that formula...but on this red bottle version Long Jack, Tribulus, dodder seed were all increased as well as 4 other ingredients.....way more important to the DTH formula than nettle.

For instance people liked the white bottle DTH but it wasnt causing nearly as much reports of aggression (there were some but no where near as much as red bottle DTH) as this red bottle DTH. If your taking a herbal test booster and do feel an increase in aggression.......its not as "strong" as it could be.

Like I said in reguards to the arginine that space came avail. from going from whole maca to 12:1.

I know you dont lie Chuck I was joking due to a slight misunderstanding in what I said last night being taken as me "lying"

I know your a good, honest businessman and as you know Ive logged many of your products (both on your dime and on my dime) and have supported Nos Ether for some time now.

Anyway, glad you clarified that as the long jack is heavily backed by science, expect to see me run another dth and ehter log (this time it'll be the new version) sometime in 08.

Sorry again for sounding disrespectful, its just that I woke up this morning to seeing a bunch of people calling me a dishonest when I've seen few people that hold better logs/honest feedback than myself.
 
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