Did I Get Tricked?

bg5757

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I bought some 1-T and 4-AD powder from 1fast before the ban, and I am wondering if I got something other than 1-T or 4-AD. I did a 4-weeker of about 250mgs of 1-T and about 300mgs of 4-AD in a transdermal in April. I was getting some pretty intense lower back pumps that got painful at some points, and sometimes I had to stop and stretch for 10 minutes to keep lifting. In addition, my forearms were also getting almost painfully pumped, especially on when doing Bis. :twisted:

I talked to a friend with a lot of experience who owns a supp store, and he thinks I got something other than 1-T, probably along the lines of some kind of AAS. He said he had never heard of anyone getting bad back pumps with 1-T, and that it might be prop. :head:

Does anyone have any speculation on what actually I have? Or is my friend wrong and other people have experienced back pumps with 1-T?

Any help is appreciated :thumbsup:
 
Did the powder/tramsdermal burn? 1T is a very irritating substance, and will burn skin it touches. Sometimes its a dull burn, but I've never NOT had a burning sensation from 1T.

I've gotten back pumps and such from S1+ (1T and 4AD transdermal). What were you're gains like? Did you bloat much?

I'd be more inclined to think you indeed got 1T/4AD, especially if you bought it from 1fast.

Oh, and if you're supp. store friend is talking about oral 1T, he might be right. Its a crap chemical if you take it orally. It rocks transdermally.
 
bg5757 said:
I bought some 1-T and 4-AD powder from 1fast before the ban, and I am wondering if I got something other than 1-T or 4-AD. I did a 4-weeker of about 250mgs of 1-T and about 300mgs of 4-AD in a transdermal in April. I was getting some pretty intense lower back pumps that got painful at some points, and sometimes I had to stop and stretch for 10 minutes to keep lifting. In addition, my forearms were also getting almost painfully pumped, especially on when doing Bis. :twisted:

I talked to a friend with a lot of experience who owns a supp store, and he thinks I got something other than 1-T, probably along the lines of some kind of AAS. He said he had never heard of anyone getting bad back pumps with 1-T, and that it might be prop. :head:

Does anyone have any speculation on what actually I have? Or is my friend wrong and other people have experienced back pumps with 1-T?

Any help is appreciated :thumbsup:
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Your chance of getting tricked by Mike at 1fast is zilch. He's a straight up guy. I also bought 1-t before the ban and it was very gritty How was the consistency of your 1-t?

1-t and 4-ad was my 1st cycle. I went from 225 to 245 in a little over a month and kept 15. Needless to say, I was very pleased.
 
Why in the hell would someone give you AAS in place of prohormones???? If only we could all be so lucky to get "tricked" in that manner, lol. Save money, while getting better results because your prohormone source tricked you by selling you real gear in place of prohormones.....yeah, that makes sense.:lol:
 
Highly unlikely but it is possible... All ph/aas all come from the same select chemical factories in china... I believe at one time, some batches of m1t was found to contain Dbol.. (or was it a batch of sd)...

But I highly doubt it.
 
Yeah, at first I thought he meant he got the powder from a gym dude...then I realized it was from Mike...no way in hell that could happen.
 
Yeah, I didn't think Mike would knowingly do that, I just wanted to get some other opinions. I was thinking it may have been an accident in the making of the compound, where some other compund was made accidentally (like the whole Rebound XT problem).

Did the powder/tramsdermal burn? 1T is a very irritating substance, and will burn skin it touches. Sometimes its a dull burn, but I've never NOT had a burning sensation from 1T.
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Yeah, it was a slight burn the first few times, but I think my skin got used to it after a while.

I've gotten back pumps and such from S1+ (1T and 4AD transdermal). What were you're gains like? Did you bloat much?
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My gains were pretty huge, but I didn't keep my diet perfect the whole time cause my appetite was THROUGH THE ROOF. I gained like 25 pounds in the 4 weeks and was pretty bloated. The strength increases were awesome and very pleasing.

I also bought 1-t before the ban and it was very gritty How was the consistency of your 1-t?
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Yeah, as I remember, it was pretty gritty.
 
I have always heard about the 1-T burn with transdermals, but when using the customized dermal from CNW I haven't had any burn on the skin at all. I accidentally got a little in my eye the other day and that burned for a few minutes but no skin irritation yet. Is it possible I just don't get burned or is it another substance?
 
I doubt you got tricked but it is possible. Also with the prop ester I question the effectiveness.
 
I talked to a friend with a lot of experience who owns a supp store, and he thinks I got something other than 1-T, probably along the lines of some kind of AAS. He said he had never heard of anyone getting bad back pumps with 1-T, and that it might be prop.
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Last time I did 1-test/4AD/OHT I got *insane* back pumps about 2.5 weeks in that made it really difficult to do squats, deads, etc. I was also retaining a LOT of water. I gained 30lbs in 4 weeks, lost 10 the first week of PCT (all water). My blood pressure was also pretty high (155/85), as was my pulse (~88 when its usually ~60).

I put the blame on the bloat. Convinced me to always strive for lean, dry gains from that point on.

I highly *highly* doubt you got the wrong product. What kind of transdermal carrier did you use? 250mg for 1test is pretty high - I was running 166 and I felt like superman:)

BV
 
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I doubt you got tricked but it is possible. Also with the prop ester I question the effectiveness.
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yeah I think you're right, I dunno if a test prop transdermal would even work.

It is 99.9% likely that he just got some good steroids which used to be called "prohormones" (people need to remember that this was a legal loophole, and that all of these things were and are steroids).
 
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