Did Anabolic Pump Work for you

[SokVichet]

I wanted to add one of the major benefits I believe I'm noticing. I used to go hypo suddenly and seemingly out of nowhere. After almost 2 months on AP, I have noticed this is not happening AT ALL anymore. I ended up stranded without food for over 3-4 hours this weekend and I completely expected to be dizzy, weak, lethargic, etc... but I wasn't. I managed to get a good meal in me, and keep going without any drama. In the past, that amount of time without food would have had me dangerously weak, irritable, and almost unable to see through the vertigo. In fact, it was this tendency to break down without a retarded amount of carbs in my diet that had me somewhat afraid of AP. But I have only had one AP-induced bout since I started, and that was totally my fault.

Even if I didn't feel the pumps during workout, this alone would have me taking the product for a long time to come.

 

[jakellpet]

So it seems to be 179 people that responded to it, while 149 didn't respond to it.

45% of the people that took this product and responded to this poll didn't respond to it. That's a pretty high number.

These results are skewed IMO.

of those who didn't respond, how many actually used the product correctly, and how many actually gave the product adequate time to obtain the full benefits?

unfortunately for some, while there may be a few true non-responders, Anabolic Pump requires some degree of intelligence to use sucessfully.

 

[AM07]

These results are skewed IMO.

of those who didn't respond, how many actually used the product correctly, and how many actually gave the product adequate time to obtain the full benefits?

unfortunately for some, while there may be a few true non-responders, Anabolic Pump requires some degree of intelligence to use sucessfully.

I think I qualify as one of those people in which the product did nothing, yet I tried so many different combinations of things, yet still didn't work.

The same can be said the other way around. How many of these people are feeling a placebo effect? It happens all the time when it comes to training and supplements. People take some new late great supp, and claim it shot their strength through the roof, when in fact they obviously weren't training as hard as they could have been when not dosing the supplement.

The results may be slightly skewed due to impatience by some members, but to say that there are only a few true non-responders seems misleading to me. I'm not knocking USPLabs; I have no reason to, the product didn't work for me, oh well, I don't hold a grudge. I'll still possibly give their other product(s) a try in the future when and if I decide to run a cut, or a bulk, etc. But I'm sure there are people who tried everything advised in the AP manual and whatever methods they experimented with on their own, yet still didn't achieve the desired effects as advertised.

 

[messss]

I've got a Q regarding Anabolic Pump visavi using it successfully together with EAA's.
I'm a big fan of EAA's and take 10-13g of EAA's directly before workout on an empty stomach (which is by far the most useful way of taking it, and the way to take it to reap it's full protein synthesis-raising abilities) and I've now ordered a couple of bottles of AP+P-slin.
I've heard nothing but good about theese products from friends so I had to try and it is perfect timing as I'm going into a smaller cut/recomp preiod as of now.

MY QUESTIONs
1. Would it be in any way harming AP or P-slin's effect if I was to down either Pill with my Pre-WO EAA's (for best effect of EAA's need to be empty stomach therefore I am wondering)?
example:
13g EAA +AP or P-slin
15-20min later:
Pre-workout shake consisting of (most likely, as I have not yet received my AP and P-slin, some experimenting will be needed of course)
oats, whey, maltodextrin, and milk (0,5%)
The go to gym and have great workout.

2. Is there a recommended time between AP/P-slin +eating before one should go lift?

Just asking, thanks for being around...:thumbsup:

 

[jakellpet]

I've got a Q regarding Anabolic Pump visavi using it successfully together with EAA's.
I'm a big fan of EAA's and take 10-13g of EAA's directly before workout on an empty stomach (which is by far the most useful way of taking it, and the way to take it to reap it's full protein synthesis-raising abilities) and I've now ordered a couple of bottles of AP+P-slin.
I've heard nothing but good about theese products from friends so I had to try and it is perfect timing as I'm going into a smaller cut/recomp preiod as of now.

MY QUESTIONs
1. Would it be in any way harming AP or P-slin's effect if I was to down either Pill with my Pre-WO EAA's (for best effect of EAA's need to be empty stomach therefore I am wondering)?
example:
13g EAA +AP or P-slin
15-20min later:
Pre-workout shake consisting of (most likely, as I have not yet received my AP and P-slin, some experimenting will be needed of course)
oats, whey, maltodextrin, and milk (0,5%)
The go to gym and have great workout.

2. Is there a recommended time between AP/P-slin +eating before one should go lift?

Just asking, thanks for being around...:thumbsup:

Hey mate - I would take either AP or PSLin at least 15 minutes before anything else.

Im usually PSLin before WO and find I need at least 1.5-2hrs after eating a carb meal before I lift. 90g of complex carbs take a bit of time to digest!

But everyone is different - you need to work out your sweetspot.

Maybe you want to take your EAAs at a time closer to your workout, yet time enough away from your Pslin/AP meal?

Experiment with it - good luck - Im hoping your going to love the products

 

[w3ss]

I've got a Q regarding Anabolic Pump visavi using it successfully together with EAA's.
I'm a big fan of EAA's and take 10-13g of EAA's directly before workout on an empty stomach (which is by far the most useful way of taking it, and the way to take it to reap it's full protein synthesis-raising abilities) and I've now ordered a couple of bottles of AP+P-slin.
I've heard nothing but good about theese products from friends so I had to try and it is perfect timing as I'm going into a smaller cut/recomp preiod as of now.

MY QUESTIONs
1. Would it be in any way harming AP or P-slin's effect if I was to down either Pill with my Pre-WO EAA's (for best effect of EAA's need to be empty stomach therefore I am wondering)?
example:
13g EAA +AP or P-slin
15-20min later:
Pre-workout shake consisting of (most likely, as I have not yet received my AP and P-slin, some experimenting will be needed of course)
oats, whey, maltodextrin, and milk (0,5%)
The go to gym and have great workout.

2. Is there a recommended time between AP/P-slin +eating before one should go lift?

Just asking, thanks for being around...:thumbsup:

I agree with jakellpet.. 60+ grams carbs need time to digest.. good luck

 

[messss]

Yeah I get that the Carbs need time to digest, it will take time for everybody, including me.
But you jakellpet, you think it would be bad to take the AP/P-slin with the EAA's? It would hamper the effect of the supplement you think?
The reason why I'm going on about this is for the undisputed fact that EAA's taken on an empty stomach (preferably as close to training as possible) has such an acute impact on the overall protein synthesis. Therefore it would to me be the best of worlds to be able to take the 10-13g of EAA's mixed in water and down the AP/P-slin cap at the same time as (from what I understand) they also benefit greatly from taking on empty stomach (which would be atleast 3hours since your last meal depending on what you ate).

Then if it's advisable to wait for 1-1.5hours after eating before training (I thought it would be something like this as AP/P-slin would need the fact that my body digests the carbs atleast a bit to have some glycogen to work with) then so be it...

Thanks guys!
It seems like this is a rather dead thread after all? Think I should move my Question out in the air (I know, I know, create another AP-thread? No, maybe not )

 

[jakellpet]

Yeah I get that the Carbs need time to digest, it will take time for everybody, including me.
But you jakellpet, you think it would be bad to take the AP/P-slin with the EAA's? It would hamper the effect of the supplement you think?
The reason why I'm going on about this is for the undisputed fact that EAA's taken on an empty stomach (preferably as close to training as possible) has such an acute impact on the overall protein synthesis. Therefore it would to me be the best of worlds to be able to take the 10-13g of EAA's mixed in water and down the AP/P-slin cap at the same time as (from what I understand) they also benefit greatly from taking on empty stomach (which would be atleast 3hours since your last meal depending on what you ate).

Then if it's advisable to wait for 1-1.5hours after eating before training (I thought it would be something like this as AP/P-slin would need the fact that my body digests the carbs atleast a bit to have some glycogen to work with) then so be it...

Thanks guys!
It seems like this is a rather dead thread after all? Think I should move my Question out in the air (I know, I know, create another AP-thread? No, maybe not )

Hey mate, Im certainly no expert on the matter - maybe best you pm Mullet or one of other USPLabs reps -they'll point you in the right direction

 

[messss]

Thanks! Great idea, might try that, but aren't they rather busy?
Thanks again, and, of course, it's very hard for anybody to be an expert, especially when it comes to someone else but I thank you for your input, greatly appreciated:box:

 

[jakellpet]

Thanks! Great idea, might try that, but aren't they rather busy?
Thanks again, and, of course, it's very hard for anybody to be an expert, especially when it comes to someone else but I thank you for your input, greatly appreciated:box:

Hey man, they always deliver - it's part of USPLabs - when you buy the product, you also get the advice. Welcome to the fraternity brother!

 

[w3ss]

yup.. even my stupid questions answered by them..

 

[messss]

Hey man, they always deliver - it's part of USPLabs - when you buy the product, you also get the advice. Welcome to the fraternity brother!

Thanks!
I PM'd Mullet earlier so I guess I'll get even more advise in due time
Yeah, they seem to be a good bunch! :thumbsup:

I'm happy to say that my package arrived today which fits perfect as I can try out AP and find out if I'm a dumper while not squatting as today is a day off from the gym for me, perfect timing!

 

[messss]

I will report back, of course, in a couple of weeks and add my vote to the poll...

 

[jakellpet]

I will report back, of course, in a couple of weeks and add my vote to the poll...

good luck mate

 

[dspmusik]

I haven't read anyone else mention this but the first thing I noticed was AP made me a bit tired, and with a mild headache, which led to much decreased workouts, YET I still saw pretty awesome results!
I worked out not nearly as hard as before taking it, and saw better results. I started taking Jet Fuel again, now with AP, and definetly recommend that stack.
Just a heads up.

 

[dexterium]

I haven't read anyone else mention this but the first thing I noticed was AP made me a bit tired, and with a mild headache, which led to much decreased workouts, YET I still saw pretty awesome results!
I worked out not nearly as hard as before taking it, and saw better results. I started taking Jet Fuel again, now with AP, and definetly recommend that stack.
Just a heads up.

Were you taking in enough carbohydrates? You are supposed to take in 60 g of complex carbohydrates, 15 minutes after taking Anabolic Pump.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to private message me.

 

[DrnkMnky]

I haven't read anyone else mention this but the first thing I noticed was AP made me a bit tired, and with a mild headache, which led to much decreased workouts, YET I still saw pretty awesome results!
I worked out not nearly as hard as before taking it, and saw better results. I started taking Jet Fuel again, now with AP, and definetly recommend that stack.
Just a heads up.

I used to get the same feeling, but soon learned the ideal amount of carb to eat to keep from getting tired/lethargic. I would slightly increase you carb consumption after AP doses and you should see even greater results.

 

[SokVichet]

I used to get the same feeling, but soon learned the ideal amount of carb to eat to keep from getting tired/lethargic. I would slightly increase you carb consumption after AP doses and you should see even greater results.

It's strange. I feel like I've dialed in my post-AP carb requirements, but occasionally I have to bump it up due to that lethargic feeling. Might be time to increase my post-pill carb intake numbers again, and I'm still leaning out AND getting bigger

Time to update my profile... I lost another 4-5 pounds over the last month and a half (losing waist girth, but gaining size everywhere else).

 

[DrnkMnky]

It's strange. I feel like I've dialed in my post-AP carb requirements, but occasionally I have to bump it up due to that lethargic feeling. Might be time to increase my post-pill carb intake numbers again, and I'm still leaning out AND getting bigger

Time to update my profile... I lost another 4-5 pounds over the last month and a half (losing waist girth, but gaining size everywhere else).

Nice! If your still leaning out with the increased carbs, then I would slowly add in a bit more carbs with 1 or 2 of your AP meals. Keep me updated on how it is working out for you.

 

[SokVichet]

Nice! If your still leaning out with the increased carbs, then I would slowly add in a bit more carbs with 1 or 2 of your AP meals. Keep me updated on how it is working out for you.

Thank you. I'm extremely excited about it. If I weren't making progress, the wife wouldn't let me spend so much on my toys... erm supplements.

I've never had to lose fat before, so initially I had a difficult time determining what was working for me. But once I got some progress going, I started adding supplements ONE AT A TIME. That way I was able to more easily discern the changes my body was going through, and kinda-sorta be able to determine what supplements were affecting me in what ways. Now I have a full-on stack going (USPLabs has kept my wallet relatively light lately ><), but because I have established somewhat of a baseline, my newer additions/changes aren't so much of a mystery anymore.

I've also been experimenting with lengthening the time between pill and meal. I started with 15 min, and for the past week have been trying (when possible..) to push it to a full 25-30 min before I eat my carb meal. It's difficult because lately, I've been getting EXTREMELY hungry immediately after my dosing. I had never really felt the food pump outside of the gym, but I think I'm feeling some slight after meal pumps with this protocol. The idea that my muscles can feel fuller without even pushing weight is amazing... I'm hoping with the increased carbs and dosing timing, I'll start seeing fuller muscle volume simply by eating.

Man, I need to pull together my posts and come up with something for that 365 day sponsorship thread >< I'm just somewhat intimidated by it for some reason, lol. The idea of writing something for a 'contest' purpose is turning me into a procrastinator

 

[AM07]

My question is, for those of us that saw no positive benefits from Anabolic Pump, why is that?

 

[DrnkMnky]

My question is, for those of us that saw no positive benefits from Anabolic Pump, why is that?

Well, it will be best to find out a little more about you and how you used it.

What is your bodytype?
What was you daily diet like?
What is your training?
Did you use an entire bottle?
Did you read the AP manual?
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[corsaking]

This lethargic feeling thats been talked about implies that by taking AP you bring on low blood sugar levels . It seems to be a trial and error situation with regard to consumption of carbs i.e consuming enough to bring you out of that lethargic state and waiting til the carbs have digested which would lead to a rise in blood sugar levels.

 

[bla55]

I voted No on the poll and I feel like I did fairly well when trying to go along with this.

I gotta say, I didn't feel like it helped me much. It kinda gave me some GI problems as well, nothing extreme, completely manageable, but still, some discomfort.

I used to have AP in the morning, right before my oat meal breakfast, go workout, come back and have another one before lunch, consisting of sweet potatoes, rice, beans and chicken. Carb quantity was always kept in mind thrying to get the most out of the product. Dinner was close to lunch. I felt like the overload of carbs kinda made me gain a couple of pounds of fat, my body responds fast to carb uppage.

But I'm giving it another go as of right now, too early to say if it's done anything yet but we'll see.

 

[tim1985]

Well I've been using AP for about 4 weeks and I don't "feel" anything from it, but I'm looking leaner and I'm seeing more definition in the mirror! My muscles have hardened up and feel much more solid, so I have to say this stuff does work and if the results keep coming this may become a staple for me! My diet isn't exactly perfect either I've been eating pizza(whole wheat) alot more lately but I'm still getting positive results! Also I love the veins that are showing up, I've never been very vascular before but I'm seeing veins that I didn't even know were there!

 

[DrnkMnky]

Well I've been using AP for about 4 weeks and I don't "feel" anything from it, but I'm looking leaner and I'm seeing more definition in the mirror! My muscles have hardened up and feel much more solid, so I have to say this stuff does work and if the results keep coming this may become a staple for me! My diet isn't exactly perfect either I've been eating pizza(whole wheat) alot more lately but I'm still getting positive results! Also I love the veins that are showing up, I've never been very vascular before but I'm seeing veins that I didn't even know were there!

That is great that you are really seeing the results. Gotta love leaning out while eating cheat foods. Whole wheat chicken alfredo pizza is my favorite AP cheat meal.
izza:

 

[tim1985]

That is great that you are really seeing the results. Gotta love leaning out while eating cheat foods. Whole wheat chicken alfredo pizza is my favorite AP cheat meal.
izza:

Yeah man I love my carbs and with AP I don't have to worry about negative repercussions from eating them. I make my own Pizza and I use tomato paste because its low cal, and I boil the pepperoni to get some of the fat out and I don't like cheese so its actually not that bad of a cheat food IMO.

 

[edwards]

Against my better judgement, I bought Anabolic Pump during the sale. I am very reactive to Carbs (per the AP .pdf.) I say against my better judgement since I am prejudiced against most "supplements" in general. Yet, I have heard good feedback on the product. If it can help me on my high carb days to prevent fat gain, then I guess it's worth the price. Whether or not it's worth $50+ is another story.

I may have to put together a log. My fat loss has stagnated over the last month, so maybe this is what I need to help things along.

I am predisposed to GI problems (lactose intolerant) therefore I hope this doesn't disrupt my current "routine." :toilet:

 

[DrnkMnky]

Yeah man I love my carbs and with AP I don't have to worry about negative repercussions from eating them. I make my own Pizza and I use tomato paste because its low cal, and I boil the pepperoni to get some of the fat out and I don't like cheese so its actually not that bad of a cheat food IMO.

Doesn't sound like a bad cheat at all. I must admit, my pizza is definately a cheat meal.

 

[DrnkMnky]

Against my better judgement, I bought Anabolic Pump during the sale. I am very reactive to Carbs (per the AP .pdf.) I say against my better judgement since I am prejudiced against most "supplements" in general. Yet, I have heard good feedback on the product. If it can help me on my high carb days to prevent fat gain, then I guess it's worth the price. Whether or not it's worth $50+ is another story.

I may have to put together a log. My fat loss has stagnated over the last month, so maybe this is what I need to help things along.

I am predisposed to GI problems (lactose intolerant) therefore I hope this doesn't disrupt my current "routine." :toilet:

Hopefully AP will help kick start your fatloss again!

Since you are predisposed to GI problems, I would start at 1 cap a day for 1-3 days, then bump it up to 2, then 3. Good luck, and let us know how it works out for you.

 

[edwards]

Hopefully AP will help kick start your fatloss again!

Since you are predisposed to GI problems, I would start at 1 cap a day for 1-3 days, then bump it up to 2, then 3. Good luck, and let us know how it works out for you.

Thanks for the advice and well-wishes. I'll start it AFTER I get done with school and work for the day in case I need drop the kids off at the pool. If i tolerate it ok, then I'll introduce it in the morning before my high-carb breakfast.

 

[AM07]

Well, it will be best to find out a little more about you and how you used it.

What is your bodytype?
What was you daily diet like?
What is your training?
Did you use an entire bottle?
Did you read the AP manual?
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No clue about my bodytype.

Daily diet consisted of high protein, high carbs, moderate fats.

Training was mainly FB or upper/lower during my time on AP.

Went through almost the whole bottle, like 5 more caps left, just forgot that I even had it since it didn't do anything for me.

Read the AP manual, got advice from reps in the AP FAQ thread in the USP subforum, but nothing worked.

 

[DrnkMnky]

No clue about my bodytype.

Daily diet consisted of high protein, high carbs, moderate fats.

Training was mainly FB or upper/lower during my time on AP.

Went through almost the whole bottle, like 5 more caps left, just forgot that I even had it since it didn't do anything for me.

Read the AP manual, got advice from reps in the AP FAQ thread in the USP subforum, but nothing worked.

Bodytype refers to ecto, meso, endo. It seems endos tend to react better to AP, but being an ecto I react very well too.
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I have heard of people not getting noticeable results until there 2nd bottle. Some also may may not notice a pump effect at all. Did you not notice any increase in vascularity, endurance while training, or a recomp effect?

 

[AM07]

Did you not notice any increase in vascularity, endurance while training, or a recomp effect?

I didn't experience any of the three attributes you mentioned. I'm assuming it just doesn't work for me. The reps in the AP FAQ thread gave me lots of advice, but none of it worked.

 

[Force of Green]

I didn't experience any of the three attributes you mentioned. I'm assuming it just doesn't work for me. The reps in the AP FAQ thread gave me lots of advice, but none of it worked.

How long did you try it for? I probably responded to your situation before as well, but at first AP didn't do anything for me... then I made sure everything else was in check, including food allergies, etc. I take it NOW about 40 minutes before the carb containing meals and the optimal carbs are usually ezekiel cereal or granola for me. It works like a charm.

 

[Force of Green]

Well all right then. lol.

 

[AM07]

How long did you try it for? I probably responded to your situation before as well, but at first AP didn't do anything for me... then I made sure everything else was in check, including food allergies, etc. I take it NOW about 40 minutes before the carb containing meals and the optimal carbs are usually ezekiel cereal or granola for me. It works like a charm.

Sorry, haven't checked the forum in a couple days. I tried it for a month. I had everything in check, tried many different things including changing up the timing of when I eat after dosing, kind of carbs, amount of carbs, mixing of different carbs, sticking to same carbs, etc. Saw nothing.

 

[Force of Green]

Sorry, haven't checked the forum in a couple days. I tried it for a month. I had everything in check, tried many different things including changing up the timing of when I eat after dosing, kind of carbs, amount of carbs, mixing of different carbs, sticking to same carbs, etc. Saw nothing.

Sorry to hear about that. Once my body was running properly and optimally, I could notice APs effects right away. I had some food allergies I was unaware of when I first tried it as well. But, it won't work for everyone.

 

[LatSpread]

For me it was hit or miss.

As a whole I would say it worked slightly, but is not worth the price, nor was it nearly as good as the claims make it out to be.

 

[JWManster]

I don't know I can't believe people are saying anabolic pump isn't working for them. I have been on it now for two weeks along with powerfull for one week and my GOD I am full and hard as a rock. I have honestly never taken a legal supplement that worked this good. Maybe this stuff is too strong for some people and so it just doesn't work for them. I love he stuff so far I am about 244 up about 5 pounds after teo weeks and so much fuller and harder it isn't funny. USP has got my vote as legit.

 

[AM07]

I don't know I can't believe people are saying anabolic pump isn't working for them. I have been on it now for two weeks along with powerfull for one week and my GOD I am full and hard as a rock. I have honestly never taken a legal supplement that worked this good. Maybe this stuff is too strong for some people and so it just doesn't work for them. I love he stuff so far I am about 244 up about 5 pounds after teo weeks and so much fuller and harder it isn't funny. USP has got my vote as legit.

Too strong so it doesn't work? Never heard that one before.

 

[DrnkMnky]

I don't know I can't believe people are saying anabolic pump isn't working for them. I have been on it now for two weeks along with powerfull for one week and my GOD I am full and hard as a rock. I have honestly never taken a legal supplement that worked this good. Maybe this stuff is too strong for some people and so it just doesn't work for them. I love he stuff so far I am about 244 up about 5 pounds after teo weeks and so much fuller and harder it isn't funny. USP has got my vote as legit.

Sounds great man! Keep us updated on your progress.

 

[brk_nemesis]

just ordered sum... gonna stack it wit noshotty and then pslin with noshotgun... and see how I respond to the latter. I ordered sum AP right after they came out and didn't notice anything til in the 3rd week. it was the 3rd week I started eatin the right amount of carbs... and got my whey shakes in. I can't remeber what happened off the top of my head but I remeber something big happening and had absolutely no money to buy protein and food with and couldn't dip into my bill money. the third week I got a paycheck I could use and between that and being able to go to the grocery store for meat and pastas that's when the results hit me. idk about everyones situation as far as the ppl AP didn't work for .... but it could simply be their diet just isn't there or others might think they will get ph like gains just by poppin the pills and leaving out the fundlemental principle of eating. for a person who is natty one of the most important things if not the most important thing is food intake for serious gains..... so obviously it's gonna be a must for anyone serious about gains while on any form of
supplementation. idk hopefully noone on here things AP stacked wit Doritos will get them jacked..lol

 

[TruffleShuffle]

just ordered sum... gonna stack it wit noshotty and then pslin with noshotgun... and see how I respond to the latter. I ordered sum AP right after they came out and didn't notice anything til in the 3rd week. it was the 3rd week I started eatin the right amount of carbs... and got my whey shakes in. I can't remeber what happened off the top of my head but I remeber something big happening and had absolutely no money to buy protein and food with and couldn't dip into my bill money. the third week I got a paycheck I could use and between that and being able to go to the grocery store for meat and pastas that's when the results hit me. idk about everyones situation as far as the ppl AP didn't work for .... but it could simply be their diet just isn't there or others might think they will get ph like gains just by poppin the pills and leaving out the fundlemental principle of eating. for a person who is natty one of the most important things if not the most important thing is food intake for serious gains..... so obviously it's gonna be a must for anyone serious about gains while on any form of
supplementation. idk hopefully noone on here things AP stacked wit Doritos will get them jacked..lol

This is a very odd post. Lets leave AP out of it for now and just re-read it.

You weren't eating properly and weren't seeing any gains. THen you ate properly, and low and behold, started seeing those gains.

What exactly has this got to do with AP? You then go on about how important food is for gains, but then you put your serious gains down to AP?

I'm not some hater of AP or anything, i just couldnt get my head around your post.

 

[corsaking]

This is a very odd post. Lets leave AP out of it for now and just re-read it.

You weren't eating properly and weren't seeing any gains. THen you ate properly, and low and behold, started seeing those gains.

What exactly has this got to do with AP? You then go on about how important food is for gains, but then you put your serious gains down to AP?

I'm not some hater of AP or anything, i just couldnt get my head around your post.

Neither can I .I have a friend who sells bodybuilding supplements in his shop and the number of guys he gets in, asking what supplement shall i take to get big, to get muscle , when their diet is crap. They still want to party, drink alcohol., eat junk food .Too much is expected from a supplement .

 

[AM07]

This is a very odd post. Lets leave AP out of it for now and just re-read it.

You weren't eating properly and weren't seeing any gains. THen you ate properly, and low and behold, started seeing those gains.

What exactly has this got to do with AP? You then go on about how important food is for gains, but then you put your serious gains down to AP?

I'm not some hater of AP or anything, i just couldnt get my head around your post.

Like I said earlier, diet plays a huge role in gains. I think the supplement is just that; a supplement and only provides minimal gains compared to someone's diet.

 

[brk_nemesis]

This is a very odd post. Lets leave AP out of it for now and just re-read it.

You weren't eating properly and weren't seeing any gains. THen you ate properly, and low and behold, started seeing those gains.

What exactly has this got to do with AP? You then go on about how important food is for gains, but then you put your serious gains down to AP?

I'm not some hater of AP or anything, i just couldnt get my head around your post.

Your right, it could seem odd,.. my apologies I guess after re-reading, considering I typed this up off of my iphone and one sentence on the iphone is alot, much less a paragraph. I meant to elaborate more on the actual effects of AP in which many ppl in this thread have stated. The pumps, energy, vascularity, etc etc. These are the sort of things that does not occur 2 days after introducing larger amounts of ckn, steak and pastas back into one's diet. ( A note: my diet was not bad in any way... moreso the frequency of meals dropped from 8-10 to more of 5-7). Diet, as I stated before plays a BIG role but you will not see the sort of a significant gains posted above that soon, as you will off certain supplementation. At the time of writing the post, I felt that pronounced effects of AP was now common knowledge on this thread, hence the reason why I did not go into a detained summary of what the gains were. :thumbsup:

 

[bla55]

I've got a question about AP.

A friend of mine's dad had diabetes. So therefor he is likely to get that condition. How good or bad is AP for him, not even so much for fitness reasons but more for health support. Would it work for or against the likelines of him developing diabetes? Anyone know?

 

[DrnkMnky]

I've got a question about AP.

A friend of mine's dad had diabetes. So therefor he is likely to get that condition. How good or bad is AP for him, not even so much for fitness reasons but more for health support. Would it work for or against the likelines of him developing diabetes? Anyone know?

It would work in his favor.

Here is a good read that explains why:
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[bla55]

That was a nice read, indeed. I'll tell him to look into it.

Sorry then, one other question... Would the same be true to VS-10, ALA and Chromium Picolate then?