Dianabol vs ????

Msten or dmz wouldn't be too far behind
 
nosnmiveins said:
Depends on diet and sodium intake. A lot of competitors use anadrol pre contest to fill out yet stay dry
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If you want to you can stay dry on Dianabol or Trest too... it just depends on estrogen end cortisol control... but I don't think that is what he asked for.
 
Bunshichi said:
If you want to you can stay dry on Dianabol or Trest too... it just depends on estrogen end cortisol control... but I don't think that is what he asked for.
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He asked for a dry bulking compound, kind of an oxymoron. So thats where diet comes into play. Superdrol would be the best option
 
Surprised no one has suggested Tbol yet. I would definitely recommend this or a dmz/Msten combo as booneman stated
 
Hardgainer669 said:
Another question i have always wondered are prohormones just as good as steroids??
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Not really. But most of the old prohormones are active on its own and a better term to describe those is designersteroids. They are real steroids. They real prohormones without own activity usually can't get close.
 
MSten and Dbol are both pretty livertoxic. So that is a big concern. The cycle will have to be pretty short and with tons of tudca to keep damage at bay.
Then there is the Methylestrogen issue as both, Dbol and Trest convert to it. You will need an AI at a pretty high dose to get away with that combo. MSten is not androgenic enough to help with the estrogen aspect.

Other than that the combo would be strong for sure. If a slightly higher dosed Msten Trest combo for some time longer would yield the same gains with lesser risk is the question to ask however.
 
Tbol bro. a Lot less harsh than sdrol etc (not AS potent but hey) If you don't mind the sides probably Sdrol.
 
mike33511 said:
Yeah, I'm aware of that. But both Trest and Dbol convert to methylestradiol.
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Ah, I only read the msten and dbol part.

I would be way more concerned with the Trest. Having no personal experience with it I would certainly incorporate a small AI dose to get started and adjust if necessary. Seems to be the new beast on the market. One thing I've also been seeing is that no one has really needed to increase AI usage when they added in trest, so maybe conversion isnt as bad as it is on paper.
 
Compared to Dianabol: a base dose of Trest with Msten or DMZ would do the trick. It would be better in terms of keepable gains actually, except if you talk about Dbol+test stack.
 
I was hoping the trest would act as kind of a test base for a dbol cycle. Considering i can put on 10 kgs in around 5-6 weeks on a dbol only cycle im hoping that the trest with it is just going to make me explode!
 
Never tried dmz so can't really give u my personal feedback.. heard good things about it but in my opinion superdrol is the strongest oral out there. Even stronger then dbol or anadrol. Just nasty side effects though.
 
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