Dhb

Ivery

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For my second cycle I've been undecided between EQ or a low tren cycle. By low I mean 300mg wk . Tren A .
But I've been researching 1-test and it looks like a
Suped up EQ and has some tren qualities. That sounds like a perfect solution.
I'm just researching and have a few weeks till I start cycle. Will get everything I need beforehand including labs. Want this to be a well planned out experience this time.
Any experience with dhb anyone?
 
I haven't tried 1-Test, but have heard a lot of comments about very painful pip. I have even seen comments from a few guys who bought it, but just couldn't run it because it was too rough.
(Some of this could be source dependant, but I'm not sure).
I've run EQ, and really like it a lot. But it isn't a rapid gainer. Slow quality muscle gains, strength gains.... and tremendous vascularity.
 
I can corroborate the idea most 1-T injectable has insane PIP. I am told there is a solution which is a simple additive to the carrier, but most don't use it, to relieve the pain.

Best course of action is to warm the oil, and use only half a ml. mix that in the same pin as a painless mix, test C or something like that, which will dilute the 1-T and decrease pip. Also split your dose into multiple pin sites. 1-T works rapidly, but the muscle quality is fantastic.

Best steroid ever made.
 
Seen nothing but great results with it but my understanding is it comes with crippling pip. I haven't heard of the additive that old witch mentions but that is interesting there...I have spoken with 3 bbn or 4 guys that get no pip at all...almost like a few lucky ones are immune to it. But mostly it sounds like hell! Of course you trade that off with unheard of results.
 
Yes the additive is supposed to replace benzyl benzoate. I do not know the name it was kept from me. Unfortunately.
 
Yes the additive is supposed to replace benzyl benzoate. I do not know the name it was kept from me. Unfortunately.

Maybe something called benzylOxycontin?
I'd try that mix :)
 
I had planned to run this starting Nov 1 but think I'm switching to npp...but wondering if it would be tolerable if you kept the dhb sticks to glute and vg...that might make it tolerable???
 
If you have very painful DHB oil then no location will be very tolerable. You'll have to just be a mensch through it even on glutes. Gonna feel like a yellow jacket sting times ten. Wolf spider bite maybe. Yoww. Someone said it's the amount of benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate in it. An alternative carrier mixture could be used, supposedly this will negate the pip.

If you have a high pain tolerance or threshold, you might still manage it without a "painless" version. I uh... Have a few genital piercings. Pip still sucks. Just be aware.

Looking back knowing what I know now and everything I'd still use DHB over NPP. The pip is literally THE only side. For me.
 
If you have very painful DHB oil then no location will be very tolerable. You'll have to just be a mensch through it even on glutes. Gonna feel like a yellow jacket sting times ten. Wolf spider bite maybe. Yoww. Someone said it's the amount of benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate in it. An alternative carrier mixture could be used, supposedly this will negate the pip.

If you have a high pain tolerance or threshold, you might still manage it without a "painless" version. I uh... Have a few genital piercings. Pip still sucks. Just be aware.

Looking back knowing what I know now and everything I'd still use DHB over NPP. The pip is literally THE only side. For me.

Ouch!!!
...I hope those were intentional.
:-P
 
If you have very painful DHB oil then no location will be very tolerable. You'll have to just be a mensch through it even on glutes. Gonna feel like a yellow jacket sting times ten. Wolf spider bite maybe. Yoww. Someone said it's the amount of benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate in it. An alternative carrier mixture could be used, supposedly this will negate the pip.

If you have a high pain tolerance or threshold, you might still manage it without a "painless" version. I uh... Have a few genital piercings. Pip still sucks. Just be aware.

Looking back knowing what I know now and everything I'd still use DHB over NPP. The pip is literally THE only side. For me.

What have you run 1-test at?
 
What have you run 1-test at?

Only 200mg/wk or roughly 50mg EOD along with test c 100mg EOD. Though I did use it as 1-AD back in maybe 2003 at a really high dosage, and as a few different transdermal and liquid orals around the same time. I did also try to run it solo and I remember not gaining as much as I had expected, but at the same time that was my last cycle before I quit altogether so I had a lot of bull**** going on outside training etc. It was my go to before I basically gave up bodybuilding almost a decade ago. Funny how that works, ten years of wasted time and I still feel like I can achieve my dreams. You can get really big with this stuff if you try, and it doesn't seem to be fatty, but it also doesn't necessarily lean you out. That was my only mistake, I thought it would. Like I said though, best steroid ever. That's my opinion.

Oh yeah, I have some plans to use this again very soon at the same dosages, but with a DMZ start and winstrol to finish. Gonna give that harsh bastard a try again. Hopefully this time I'm lean enough, last time I wasn't, it was a waste.
 
Anyone ever used nano 1-t from fusion? I know a topical application won’t give better results than im but obviously removes the pip issue......just wondering how close it is to im??
 
Anyone ever used nano 1-t from fusion? I know a topical application won’t give better results than im but obviously removes the pip issue......just wondering how close it is to im??

Well the injectables are cypionate ester so they last a couple weeks per dose. the nano 1-t isn't topical it's an oral liquid. I tried it earlier this year before they put it on back order and while good wasn't super powerful or anything. Pretty sure doubling the dosage would be a bit closer. Might not be worth it for cost.
 
Well the injectables are cypionate ester so they last a couple weeks per dose. the nano 1-t isn't topical it's an oral liquid. I tried it earlier this year before they put it on back order and while good wasn't super powerful or anything. Pretty sure doubling the dosage would be a bit closer. Might not be worth it for cost.

Ah sorry, my bad, using liquidien at the moment which is topical and forgot nano 1-t was oral. I’ve got 3 bottles in a drawer from a sale they had last year so enough to do 2ml a day for 6 weeks.....what dose did you run?
 
Ah sorry, my bad, using liquidien at the moment which is topical and forgot nano 1-t was oral. I’ve got 3 bottles in a drawer from a sale they had last year so enough to do 2ml a day for 6 weeks.....what dose did you run?

Just 1ml a day because it's expensive and I didn't want to risk spending on two bottles if it was bunk. It's been on back order all year now too since May or June.

2ml for six weeks should be pretty good.
 
I can corroborate the idea most 1-T injectable has insane PIP. I am told there is a solution which is a simple additive to the carrier, but most don't use it, to relieve the pain.

Best course of action is to warm the oil, and use only half a ml. mix that in the same pin as a painless mix, test C or something like that, which will dilute the 1-T and decrease pip. Also split your dose into multiple pin sites. 1-T works rapidly, but the muscle quality is fantastic.

Best steroid ever made.
So I just scored some Blue Collar Godz DHB.

I think Guaicol (sp?) Is the additive, to prevent DHB at 150mg/mL concentration from "crashing" or recrystallization in the muscle after injection... The additive is bit toxic though, so less is more?

Though reviews from BCG customers on Brotherhoodofpain forum say minor pip at worst.

Mine has minor recrystallization in vial, it needs warmed I guess prior to use I assume? And will be fine, I hope.

Guess I should test one glut and mix with my Test E. Does it pair with with it's cousin EQ? I normally add EQ to my test base to increase hunger and ease joints. Some say don't pair B+DHB the same way we pair T+DHT compounds?
 
So I just scored some Blue Collar Godz DHB.

I think Guaicol (sp?) Is the additive, to prevent DHB at 150mg/mL concentration from "crashing" or recrystallization in the muscle after injection... The additive is bit toxic though, so less is more?

Though reviews from BCG customers on Brotherhoodofpain forum say minor pip at worst.

Mine has minor recrystallization in vial, it needs warmed I guess prior to use I assume? And will be fine, I hope.

Guess I should test one glut and mix with my Test E. Does it pair with with it's cousin EQ? I normally add EQ to my test base to increase hunger and ease joints. Some say don't pair B+DHB the same way we pair T+DHT compounds?

At first glance yeah you would think they would be the perfect pair but I honestly don't think B+DHB would do much more than just DHB as far as positive results. Mainly it would just be hunger, energy, stamina. you could add a small amount to your test base.

DHB is an injectable which is easily compared to classic bulking orals. unlike some (DMZ, SD) it doesn't just shove glycogen into the muscle more rapidly, protein synthesis actually occurs rapidly, and RBC goes up a little faster (not as fast as straight EQ) which is harder to lose than just more water in the muscle, in fact that keeps that water in the muscle longer. And like I said fat gain isn't really there, or from my witnessing and experience it isn't.

Personally I think T+DHB is probably one of the best feeling combos, just feel so hard and strong all day, pumps last from morning til the next day hahaha. And then (and this is the part I love) that combo doesn't have any more sides than whatever test dose you take.

Back to B+DHB. Now Boldenone doesn't really have affinity to 5a reduce to DHB in practical use, normally. If you run EQ long enough you will have enough extra 5a reductase to make that happen, and with a long undecylenate ester it will have built up a working dosage level. This is why EQ takes forever to build size. Boldenone doesn't promote size on its own very quickly in the least, just not anabolic enough. So when those gains become more rapid around the start of vial 2 that's why. It's reducing to DHB. Pairing them together will be more like just starting later in a cycle of EQ in a way.

I'm not against experimenting, and I never took them together, but sure go ahead and try just adding the DHB to your usual test and EQ mixture. ive seen guys mixing Dbol, anadrol, EQ, Deca, and test which is like a recipe for a TON of extra blood and they were ok. Noses bleeding but ok. ROFL

I was thinking a good combo for joints and such would be T+DHB+Dienolone Enanthate. Dienolone has many of the 19-nor benefits but it's less likely to cause a lot of the common sides associated with 19-nors for one reason or another. Still would take raloxifene with dien though. I take ZERO chances with gyno.

On a whole nother note, I forgot to take my DMZ this morning. Better do that. Yikes.
 
At first glance yeah you would think they would be the perfect pair but I honestly don't think B+DHB would do much more than just DHB as far as positive results. Mainly it would just be hunger, energy, stamina. you could add a small amount to your test base.

DHB is an injectable which is easily compared to classic bulking orals. unlike some (DMZ, SD) it doesn't just shove glycogen into the muscle more rapidly, protein synthesis actually occurs rapidly, and RBC goes up a little faster (not as fast as straight EQ) which is harder to lose than just more water in the muscle, in fact that keeps that water in the muscle longer. And like I said fat gain isn't really there, or from my witnessing and experience it isn't.

Personally I think T+DHB is probably one of the best feeling combos, just feel so hard and strong all day, pumps last from morning til the next day hahaha. And then (and this is the part I love) that combo doesn't have any more sides than whatever test dose you take.

Back to B+DHB. Now Boldenone doesn't really have affinity to 5a reduce to DHB in practical use, normally. If you run EQ long enough you will have enough extra 5a reductase to make that happen, and with a long undecylenate ester it will have built up a working dosage level. This is why EQ takes forever to build size. Boldenone doesn't promote size on its own very quickly in the least, just not anabolic enough. So when those gains become more rapid around the start of vial 2 that's why. It's reducing to DHB. Pairing them together will be more like just starting later in a cycle of EQ in a way.

I'm not against experimenting, and I never took them together, but sure go ahead and try just adding the DHB to your usual test and EQ mixture. ive seen guys mixing Dbol, anadrol, EQ, Deca, and test which is like a recipe for a TON of extra blood and they were ok. Noses bleeding but ok. ROFL

I was thinking a good combo for joints and such would be T+DHB+Dienolone Enanthate. Dienolone has many of the 19-nor benefits but it's less likely to cause a lot of the common sides associated with 19-nors for one reason or another. Still would take raloxifene with dien though. I take ZERO chances with gyno.

On a whole nother note, I forgot to take my DMZ this morning. Better do that. Yikes.
Wow, thanks bro! Much appreciated, gonna have to read this in detail.

Edit - OK I see what you're saying. I read that B + DHB is not very useful combo, they almost negate one another someone posted on another forum. I can give the B (EQ) a break, just do T + DHB. I'm sure that will be excellent on it's own. Reason I would keep EQ is if it kills hunger like Tren Ace just did for me, EQ helps restore that. Besides the connective tissue benefit.

But if they are not synergistic (so to speak) I can try including MK-677 at say 20mg, that should kick up my hunger too.

I never get much from Dien-diol or Dien compounds (orally, TD) never tried the IM versions...
 
Pip is real, even with a G and EO. I ran 200mg/ml, so probably could be much less pip at 100. Pip gets less bad as you go, also I mix it with my test and anything else and do smaller daily injections and it is not that bad, still worth running for sure, very awesome and unique compund.

Tren is going to give you much more dramatic results than almost anything, and less pip, though the DHb may win out for bulking, for me anyways, tren shreds me too much. 1-T-C makes me sleepy and I bet it increases GH or something because I get hungry as hell, sleepy, and tingly fingers from it. I felt that 1-T-C is also good for healing, all anecdotal, there are just no studies really on the compund as it was never legally marketed, so all claims are "bro-claims," but it helped with my shoulders more than EQ even. Also, the sides are counter to Tren which wires me up like a stimulant, and kills my appetite.

I was running tren e at 300mg a week with test and decided to transition off the Tren and start a run with 1-T-C. I ended up missing the energy and drive from the tren, but liked the sleep and appetite of dhb, so I split them down the middle, running 150 tren E 150 1-t-C and Test at 350+. I really liked the split for how it felt, but by not pushing either compound into the sweet spot, I didnt get quite as much of the classic aesthetic qualities that many people are looking for with tren especially, but had very minimal sides and ran for a long time. Very nice combo that I never hear about because people call dhb an alternative to tren and dont consider to run them together. Both are very different. More so I would compare DHB to Primo. DHB being much stronger and more of a gainer, but Tren and Primo very commonly stacked.

Either one you choose is going to be good, and it probably is good to run them separately if you want an accurate feel. Probably run DHB, Tren will change you and challenge you psychologically, and might want to wait till you've had a few more cycles. I wouldn't run EQ again, not when DHB is available. The best part about EQ is the portion that turns into DHB.
 
Funny thing is my very first inject cycle was dhb (if it was real)...I was 19 and wanted to stay on the "legal" side and found some guy that made 4ad cyp and 1 test cyp...I think vpx made some at the time too. Now I was VERY ignorant and thought of these as injectable ph's....I remember some howling pip but I friggin blew up on that stuff. On a side note I swear I bought them from the guy that ended up starting the legal gear company although I could be wrong....was about 15 years ago. Just makes me want to take another swing at the stuff but I'm afraid in my old age I'd be much more of a pu$$y about it
 
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I remember when you could walk into a store and buy this lol
 
Yuuuup. Guys these days will never know how good we really had it. Well, maybe in the UK...

Yep. 7 years ago, I could place an order with my CC for SD, Epistane, Halodrol, and most other "PHs" (steroids), and they would be at my door in 2 days.
 
Yep. 7 years ago, I could place an order with my CC for SD, Epistane, Halodrol, and most other "PHs" (steroids), and they would be at my door in 2 days.

It is literally the one plus point of living in the uk right now.......I have a predator nutrition shop 30 mins from my house lol
 
It is literally the one plus point of living in the uk right now.......I have a predator nutrition shop 30 mins from my house lol

Nice! Back in the day, you could buy some decent stuff (in the USA) at The Vitamin Shoppe. .....you just had to get them to unlock the glass case.
LOL.
 
Love DHB threads. It’s the white whale of aas. No drug intrigues me more. I think the pip concerns me a little less than the price of running it for adequate doses/durations from the few sources I’ve come across.

In for more great info
 
Love DHB threads. It’s the white whale of aas. No drug intrigues me more. I think the pip concerns me a little less than the price of running it for adequate doses/durations from the few sources I’ve come across.

In for more great info

Not to source talk but I found a place with it for half the price of any other place. Then the bastards went out of stock and haven't gotten more of it. If they ever get it back you'll be the first one I pm about it.
 
Not to source talk but I found a place with it for half the price of any other place. Then the bastards went out of stock and haven't gotten more of it. If they ever get it back you'll be the first one I pm about it.

My favorite place has been talking it up big time. Someone / brand I have absolutely 0 doubts about....but I've been hesitant to ask the price lol.
 
My favorite place has been talking it up big time. Someone / brand I have absolutely 0 doubts about....but I've been hesitant to ask the price lol.

Hey PM me too hahaha... I have an idea. apparently Apple does too. iPad auto corrected idea into iDeca.
 
Alright so I got two vials of DHB, with a little recrystallization... Can heat up, but I guess it's better that than UGL using guiacol solvent?

I tried one pin of it recently, no PiP, but I mixed with another oil to be safe.

Anyone else going to give modern DHB go? What UGL? I might do that next cycle. I hope I don't have to reheat them all the time...

Love 19-nor but gotta let the gyno flare up go before hitting the Tren Ace again.
 
Alright so I got two vials of DHB, with a little recrystallization... Can heat up, but I guess it's better that than UGL using guiacol solvent?

I tried one pin of it recently, no PiP, but I mixed with another oil to be safe.

Anyone else going to give modern DHB go? What UGL? I might do that next cycle. I hope I don't have to reheat them all the time...

Love 19-nor but gotta let the gyno flare up go before hitting the Tren Ace again.
Awesome!!! As soon as my source restocks I'll be hitting that stuff myself. Legitimately appears like the perfect compound. Good luck with the run brotha! I've heard nothing but crazy great gains with this
 
I'm run of the lucky runs I used to be able to brew it at 100mg/ml and run in no pain. But my supplier ran some of his own batch and advised us we would mostly get pip
 
Nice! Back in the day, you could buy some decent stuff (in the USA) at The Vitamin Shoppe. .....you just had to get them to unlock the glass case.
LOL.

And fast forward to today and we have not just one but tons of TRT clinics.. test deca anavar HCG HGH.. remember in America money talks. Gotta pay if you wanna play. And that is fine by me
 
Anyone else going to give modern DHB go? What UGL? I might do that next cycle. I hope I don't have to reheat them all the time...

Yup, me. Waiting for my suplier to get it in his EU stock. It's from DP and it's 100mg/ml... Anybody tried their new batch?
 
Got some 200mg/ml, hopefully the PIP no worse than bold cyp or nand cyp.

I can hear the sound of taps gently playing in the background of this post.

God luck and good speed...


Seriously though, warm it, mix 0.5ml with 1ml of warmed test c 200 and pin that mix 2x a week. If you prefer to use more then by all means do so, but try to keep that ratio of DHB C 200 0.25-0.5ml:1ml Test C 200

This dilutes the DHB enough to avoid crashing in the intramuscular depot.

Or just slam 1ml of it into your quads and find out, I guess.
 
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