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Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act Passes Senate

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fightnews said:
Nice those are the best ones anyway as far as risk/results. I imagine companies will jump on the bandwagon and hopefully some improvements or new ways to make dhea based prohormones will take effect. You would think they would at least have to prove a safety issue before pulling something.
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We already have plenty of bioavailibility improvements made to them. The problem at the end of the day is that the raws are friggin expensive making running effective cycles expensive.
 
kissdadookie said:
That's the point I'm making, I honestly don't think the US is really all that focused on it. It's something that came up and is a law they wish to get passed, but I highly doubt that the administration is all that concerned or focused on it (as in, if Obama doesn't sign it into law, I highly doubt that there's going to be much hussing and fussing over it, they'll just try to get it passed next year).

WE are making a big deal out of it because something like this DIRECTLY affects us, but I think the whole notion that our government is focused on it is probably pretty erroneous, lulz.
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I think he'll sign it. Its politically correct for him to do so.
 
heavyiron said:
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Look at the pig who created the bill, looks like a fat slob, anyway they say it has a 57% chance of passing. I don't use methylated prohormones anyway but I don't like them banning things. Next it will be creatine. They banned the original prohormones when they weren't even dangerous. They where prob the safest anabolics you could take. Id love to get my hands on some off them
 
BCseacow83 said:
I do not think that Obama is pacing the oval office weighing the pro's and con's of this bill. It is sitting in a stack that more than likely will be handed to him as last minute things to tie up before the break."Mr. President, before you leave don't forget to sign these...." He will grab said stack, sign them and not really think twice about it. That will be that. This could happen today or tomorrow morning. It's not like he needs a day cleared to sign some paper work lol.
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kissdadookie said:
On top of that, his administration probably already sorted the the bills into piles which are probably labeled "just sign these" and "you should read these."
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Agree with both post.

Rhadam said:
I had a source that said he signed it yesterday, going to double check that now. Pretty reliable source.
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x2 on this.
 
heavyiron said:
He will most likely sign it. Pretty much all of society hates steroids. Repubs and Dems both want this bill passed. Its a no brainer for him to sign. Like stated above. He will get a stack of papers to sign and its done.
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They also hate exercise and anything else that points out there lack of willpower to take care of themselves
 
fightnews said:
Look at the pig who created the bill, looks like a fat slob, anyway they say it has a 57% chance of passing. I don't use methylated prohormones anyway but I don't like them banning things. Next it will be creatine. They banned the original prohormones when they weren't even dangerous. They where prob the safest anabolics you could take. Id love to get my hands on some off them
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It said 57% before it passed the Senate. They didn't update the percentage afterwards.

Look into the Andro's brother. I think its what you may be looking for.
 
heavyiron said:
I think he'll sign it. Its politically correct for him to do so.
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Yeah, most probably, but if by chance it falls through the cracks, I wouldn't be surprised and I doubt people will be complaining about it from either party. It just doesn't feel like something all that important tbh.

heavyiron said:
It said 57% before it passed the Senate. They didn't update the percentage afterwards.

Look into the Andro's brother. I think its what you may be looking for.
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The 1 and 4 RX are what I'm running currently. Love it.
 
kissdadookie said:
They may, but how big of a thing is that in the grand scheme of things though? Amongst the myriad of things the country is dealing with at current.

Haven't seen it reported in the news, TYT I think are not even aware of it (and they are quite aware of some pretty silly and often obscure things).

The closest thing we've had to this in the news was when they grilled Dr. Oz, and the only reason we knew about that was because of how big of a name Dr. Oz is. Lulz.

Not saying to get your hopes up folks, but just trying to put into perspective how not very big of an issue steroids is for the government at the moment in the grand scheme of things. I mean for goodness sakes, we've re-opened diplomatic relations with Cuba. Oh, and at a more local level, NY banned fracking!
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If it wasn't an issue they would of never even made the bill though
 
kissdadookie said:
Yeah, most probably, but if by chance it falls through the cracks, I wouldn't be surprised and I doubt people will be complaining about it from either party. It just doesn't feel like something all that important tbh.



The 1 and 4 RX are what I'm running currently. Love it.
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The political spin will be Obama did not protect the kids from evil steroids. Obviously this is spin but never the less.
 
kissdadookie said:
We already have plenty of bioavailibility improvements made to them. The problem at the end of the day is that the raws are friggin expensive making running effective cycles expensive.
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I get good results off moderate label dosing. Not saying it will make you a mass monster but it gives a nice boost and its safe to run.
 
fightnews said:
If it wasn't an issue they would of never even made the bill though
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There's like a gajillion things that they draw up and want to have passed. We just don't hear about them because it's never really reported in the news. Heck, if we were not lifters or "fitness enthusiasts," it's most likely that we wouldn't have known about this bill either, because nobody is reporting on it really.
 
kissdadookie said:
There's like a gajillion things that they draw up and want to have passed. We just don't hear about them because it's never really reported in the news. Heck, if we were not lifters or "fitness enthusiasts," it's most likely that we wouldn't have known about this bill either, because nobody is reporting on it really.
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Yea, I was getting people to sign the petition...and not a single one of them had heard about this bill.
 
CallItKarma said:
Yea, I was getting people to sign the petition...and not a single one of them had heard about this bill.
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I noticed that petition didn't get to many signatures
 
CallItKarma said:
Yea, it was probably pointless...but on the other hand I couldn't think of any good reasons not to do it, and I don't like to just complain without at least trying.
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A petition is not "trying". It is the lazy thing people do when they think they are doing something. You can look into petition signature invalidation and see that online petitions can easily be invalidated as there is no way of proving the signatures authenticity.

You can read more here: Invalid Link Removed

It states that only four states assume all signatures to be valid and in some states, only once 147% of the required signatures have been collected will it be deemed valid; some states do random validity sampling and others must validate EACH signature.

E-petitions rarely have REAL signatures attached and so they are often deemed invalid before even being signed, however they can be made MORE valid if you register at the site first using an address, real name and other such info. If you have ever signed an e-petition WITHOUT giving out such information, you have likely had your "say" discarded. However then you also run the risk of being added to a mailing risk if the website decides to do so.

Internet petitions can and do work, but that is dependant on the platform in which you signed it; in most cases however, your vote will not count for anything.
 
Jiigzz said:
A petition is not "trying". It is the lazy thing people do when they think they are doing something. You can look into petition signature invalidation and see that online petitions can easily be invalidated as there is no way of proving the signatures authenticity.

You can read more here: Invalid Link Removed

It states that only four states assume all signatures to be valid and in some states, only once 147% of the required signatures have been collected will it be deemed valid; some states do random validity sampling and others must validate EACH signature.

E-petitions rarely have REAL signatures attached and so they are often deemed invalid before even being signed, however they can be made MORE valid if you register at the site first using an address, real name and other such info. If you have ever signed an e-petition WITHOUT giving out such information, you have likely had your "say" discarded. However then you also run the risk of being added to a mailing risk if the website decides to do so.

Internet petitions can and do work, but that is dependant on the platform in which you signed it; in most cases however, your vote will not count for anything.
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I understand what you're saying, the thing is, there was no one knocking at my door with a paper petition, and it took all but five minutes to sign the one online. I'm not saying that it would have done anything even with 100,000 sigs.

What I am saying, is that there was really no reason not too support the only available organized opposition to this disgusting legislation.

That's just my personal opinion.
 
CallItKarma said:
I understand what you're saying, the thing is, there was no one knocking at my door with a paper petition, and it took all but five minutes to sign the one online. I'm not saying that it would have done anything even with 100,000 sigs.

What I am saying, is that there was really no reason not too support the only available organized opposition to this disgusting legislation.

That's just my personal opinion.
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100,000 measly signatures...just a minute of time and the thing goes on Obama's desk to look at. Dont know what the big deal is not to sign it.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
He was asking if the raws would be counted as RC if they became illegal I believe, depending on use and certifications sure... But, for those that don't have those papers, what?
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If you dont have the papers technically you are not supposed to buy RC's and there is no way to legally buy scheduled drugs above ground. So if they become scheduled it would be a crime to buy them and import them, but not impossible.
 
kissdadookie said:
There's like a gajillion things that they draw up and want to have passed. We just don't hear about them because it's never really reported in the news. Heck, if we were not lifters or "fitness enthusiasts," it's most likely that we wouldn't have known about this bill either, because nobody is reporting on it really.
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If you google prohormone ban 2014 the only thing that pops up is stuff from threads like this you have to actually look up the bill by number to get any info on it I 100% Guaranty the 99% of the general populous knows nothing about this
 
McCrew530 said:
If you dont have the papers technically you are not supposed to buy RC's and there is no way to legally buy scheduled drugs above ground. So if they become scheduled it would be a crime to buy them and import them, but not impossible.
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Then how the heck can you go to an online website and order legit actual steroids such as test e dbol etc, and have them delivered to your door. I know for a fact this is possible I have acquaintences who have done it numerous times
 
Hopefully he will suffer cardiac arrest and choke on his own tongue as he lifts the pen to sign
 
RickyBlobby said:
Then how the heck can you go to an online website and order legit actual steroids such as test e dbol etc, and have them delivered to your door. I know for a fact this is possible I have acquaintences who have done it numerous times
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You cannot be this moronic, surely?
 
McCrew530 said:
If you google prohormone ban 2014 the only thing that pops up is stuff from threads like this you have to actually look up the bill by number to get any info on it I 100% Guaranty the 99% of the general populous knows nothing about this
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Duh. If anything, we're the ones drawing the spotlight on the thing, lulz. Hopefully Obama and his administration does scour the webs looking at these threads. :P
 
kissdadookie said:
Duh. If anything, we're the ones drawing the spotlight on the thing, lulz. Hopefully Obama and his administration does scour the webs looking at these threads. :P
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Knowing Obama, he probably has a Google Analytics Czar. Another measly position to waste our money on.

It's like that dipsht he hired during the "ebola crisis" WHO DIDN'T KNOW A FCKING THING ABOUT EBOLA!

Rant over.
 
kissdadookie said:
Duh. If anything, we're the ones drawing the spotlight on the thing, lulz. Hopefully Obama and his administration does scour the webs looking at these threads. :P
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Yeah right..."hey guys, they dont know about the juicy oils at least, right? huh huh"
 
ax1 said:
Yeah right..."hey guys, they dont know about the juicy oils at least, right? huh huh"
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You know what I mean. Let's be realistic here, IF Obama ends up forgetting to sign it, there may be a yelp here or there from conservatives or what not trying to spin it, but that will last like a split second, nobody will really give a toss, and then they will try and likely push it through next year.

Point being, this is NOT an issue that is really in the public eye thus not an issue people are even really discussing outside of the law makers and on message boards such as this one. There's been pretty much ZERO reporting on this bill.
 
kissdadookie said:
Not saying he will, but IF he did, I honestly would not bat an eye at it nor do I expect the media and his fellow politicians to really bat an eye at it either.

For goodness sakes, WE HAVE NOW RE-ESTABLISHED DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH CUBA!
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It's all a ploy to bring America to her knees so that she can open wide. I'm not that much of a history guy, but from what I've read, this guy is worse than Carter.
 
The Engineer said:
It's all a ploy to bring America to her knees so that she can open wide. I'm not that much of a history guy, but from what I've read, this guy is worse than Carter.
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Regardless of how people think of Cuba and the politics surrounding it, let's face it, THAT is important news, not the new steroid control act. Lulz. That's developing news from TODAY. You think anybody really gives 2 hoots about the steroid act whom aren't posting or paying attention to things discussed on boards such as this?
 
kissdadookie said:
You know what I mean. Let's be realistic here, IF Obama ends up forgetting to sign it, there may be a yelp here or there from conservatives or what not trying to spin it, but that will last like a split second, nobody will really give a toss, and then they will try and likely push it through next year.

Point being, this is NOT an issue that is really in the public eye thus not an issue people are even really discussing outside of the law makers and on message boards such as this one. There's been pretty much ZERO reporting on this bill.
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So how a bouts would that exactly go down?

The leader of one of the most powerful nations in the world, sits down to do his actual job, what he was elected to do, and go over the forms and paperwork that actually builds the foundation on which your country is run, and then just decides, "oh hey, instead of me doing what I am suppose to do, I'm gonna go and grab Michelle, open up a bottle of bubbly and have a steak dinner before I take her into the bedroom and make her squeal like a pig before we head to Hawaii for our family vacation?"

Sounds like the doings of a very responsible world leader.
 
juniorab said:
The leader of one of the most powerful nations in the world, sits down to do his actual job, what he was elected to do, and go over the forms and paperwork that actually builds the foundation on which your country is run, and then just decides, "oh hey, instead of me doing what I am suppose to do, I'm gonna go and grab Michelle, open up a bottle of bubbly and have a steak dinner before I take her into the bedroom and make her squeal like a pig before we head to Hawaii for our family vacation?"
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Great post man!
 
kissdadookie said:
You know what I mean. Let's be realistic here, IF Obama ends up forgetting to sign it, there may be a yelp here or there from conservatives or what not trying to spin it, but that will last like a split second, nobody will really give a toss, and then they will try and likely push it through next year.

Point being, this is NOT an issue that is really in the public eye thus not an issue people are even really discussing outside of the law makers and on message boards such as this one. There's been pretty much ZERO reporting on this bill.
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I dont really think conservatives will be on TV barking about a bill the vast majority of the population is unaware of. They have issues like Cuba to bark about, spending bills, etc...

This is an issue of inside supplement lobby lobbying politicians to pass bills that may favor the competing industry. The lobby groups create many if not most of the laws.
 
juniorab said:
So how a bouts would that exactly go down?

The leader of one of the most powerful nations in the world, sits down to do his actual job, what he was elected to do, and go over the forms and paperwork that actually builds the foundation on which your country is run, and then just decides, "oh hey, instead of me doing what I am suppose to do, I'm gonna go and grab Michelle, open up a bottle of bubbly and have a steak dinner before I take her into the bedroom and make her squeal like a pig before we head to Hawaii for our family vacation?"

Sounds like the doings of a very responsible world leader.
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Here's the point you're failing to grasp:

This only becomes an issue if someone ever mentions it and makes a big fuss about it and have the news media pick it up. Otherwise, NOBODY GIVES A DAMN. It's not like we're bombarded with mass trials of athletes being caught using these things currently.
 
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