Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act Passes Senate

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man i stay out of the forum for a few months and things to crap.... in for more info
 
Man u wanna get big here's 3 things

Peanut butter honey sandwich
cup of noodles
mac n cheese with summer sausage
fill up on those all day even the skinieat mother come home swole
 
So this is my question. What are the chances any gov agencies continue to "care" about this after it is passed? I know it says they can add to the lists, but will they care enough to keep up? I think they get their pat on the back and applause from the sheeple and forget about it. And I understand Triumphalis was left off. That stuff fn rocks.
 
Sadly some of us have to wait until after Christmas before they will have any money :grumpy:
 
Cool said:
So this is my question. What are the chances any gov agencies continue to "care" about this after it is passed? I know it says they can add to the lists, but will they care enough to keep up? I think they get their pat on the back and applause from the sheeple and forget about it. And I understand Triumphalis was left off. That stuff fn rocks.
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Hell yeah bro hopefully they never ban Triumphalis and more companies start making clones lol, Also I don't think dimethadrol (Mithras ) was on the list either which is even better.
 
Cool said:
So this is my question. What are the chances any gov agencies continue to "care" about this after it is passed? I know it says they can add to the lists, but will they care enough to keep up? I think they get their pat on the back and applause from the sheeple and forget about it. And I understand Triumphalis was left off. That stuff fn rocks.
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Once the Ol Ball n Chain is done with Christmas shopping, I'm grabbing some Triumph and maybe a few other that are still legal. You know, before they become added to the list!
 
Magg0078 said:
Does this include Dermacrine, which is marketed as DHEA?
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To answer this question once and for all. I emailed bps asking if dermacrine will be pulled and they answered as I quote, "No it will not. Dermacrine is not a designer steroid which is not what the bill is after."
 
Cool said:
So this is my question. What are the chances any gov agencies continue to "care" about this after it is passed? I know it says they can add to the lists, but will they care enough to keep up? I think they get their pat on the back and applause from the sheeple and forget about it. And I understand Triumphalis was left off. That stuff fn rocks.
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The list doesn't really matter, if you read the bill the language is very precise on it being a blanket ban. Let me repeat, the exact compounds on the list does not matter. It is a blanket ban. Read the bill. Or, just read this important excerpt:

``(C)(i) Subject to clause (ii), a drug or hormonal substance
(other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and
dehydroepiandrosterone) that is not listed in subparagraph (A) and is
derived from, or has a chemical structure substantially similar to, 1
or more anabolic steroids listed in subparagraph (A) shall be
considered to be an anabolic steroid for purposes of this Act if--
``(I) the drug or substance has been created or manufactured
with the intent of producing a drug or other substance that
either--
``(aa) promotes muscle growth; or
``(bb) otherwise causes a pharmacological effect similar to
that of testosterone; or
``(II) the drug or substance has been, or is intended to be,
marketed or otherwise promoted in any manner suggesting that
consuming it will promote muscle growth or any other
pharmacological effect similar to that of testosterone.
 
Rhadam said:
The list doesn't really matter, if you read the bill the language is very precise on it being a blanket ban. Let me repeat, the exact compounds on the list does not matter. It is a blanket ban. Read the bill. Or, just read this important excerpt:

``(C)(i) Subject to clause (ii), a drug or hormonal substance
(other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and
dehydroepiandrosterone) that is not listed in subparagraph (A) and is
derived from, or has a chemical structure substantially similar to, 1
or more anabolic steroids listed in subparagraph (A) shall be
considered to be an anabolic steroid for purposes of this Act if--
``(I) the drug or substance has been created or manufactured
with the intent of producing a drug or other substance that
either--
``(aa) promotes muscle growth; or
``(bb) otherwise causes a pharmacological effect similar to
that of testosterone; or
``(II) the drug or substance has been, or is intended to be,
marketed or otherwise promoted in any manner suggesting that
consuming it will promote muscle growth or any other
pharmacological effect similar to that of testosterone.
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This though, in bold.
 
Supplement Industry Hails Congress’ Passage of Anabolic Steroid Bill December 12, 2014 By Josh Long
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WASHINGTON—Congress passed the Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act (DASCA) of 2014, thanks in part to lobbying from the dietary supplement industry for a number of months leading up to its passage.

President Obama is expected to sign DASCA into law after a House version of the legislation was passed late Thursday on the Senate floor by unanimous consent.

The legislation empowers the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to crack down on dangerous substances that resemble anabolic steroids on DEA’s current list of controlled substances and that have been marketed as dietary supplements.

Organizations representing varied interests supported the legislation, including a number of supplement trade organizations as well as the American Academy of Family Physicians, American Association of Nurse Practitioners, American Pharmacists’ Association and United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).

“When criminal outliers are not stopped, not only does it put consumers at risk, but it unjustly blackens the reputation of responsible dietary supplement companies that manufacture and market legitimate, high-quality and beneficial supplements for sports nutrition and performance," said Steve Mister, president and CEO of the Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), in a statement. “The passage of DASCA brings a welcome protection against that."

Note: I hate this fckr

DASCA will place 25 known designer anabolic steroids on DEA’s list of controlled substances and grants the U.S. Attorney General authority to temporarily schedule new designer anabolic steroids on the same list. The legislation also creates new penalties for distributing, importing or manufacturing anabolic steroids under false labels, lawmakers said.

DEA assisted in crafting the bill, including identifying the 25 new substances on the list. Although the performance-enhancing substances will fall under Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act, none of them have medicinal benefits, a DEA spokesperson told Natural Products INSIDER.

A Senate bill was sponsored by Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). Reps. Frank Pallone (D-New Jersey) and Joe Pitts (R-Pennsylvania) introduced legislation in the House. The Senate passed H.R. 4771 on Thursday, Dec. 11.

Hatch and Whitehouse have said anabolic steroids are made by reverse engineering illegal steroids and slightly changing their chemical composition, avoiding placement on DEA's list of controlled substances.

“The world’s top athletes are subject to strict guidelines and rigorous testing to prevent the use of steroids, as they should be," Whitehouse said Friday in a statement. “At the same time, many American citizens may be unknowingly dosing themselves with these harmful substances."[/COLOR]

WHAT?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

DEA has authority to place steroids and other substances on its list of controlled substances, but it must go through an arduous and potentially years-long process that requires the consent of the U.S. Department of Human Health and Services (HHS) through FDA. For instance, DEA this year moved hydrocodone combination products from Schedule III to Schedule II after receiving the recommendation of HHS. But that rule was published 15 years after a physician filed a petition with DEA requesting reclassification, citing the potential for abuse of the products.

DASCA bears a resemblance to the 20-year-old Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA) in that both pieces of legislation were passed near the end of a congressional session.

Congress is set to adjourn in the coming days. As the end of the current session approached, the Senate Judiciary Committee still had not considered DASCA. The United Natural Products Alliance (UNPA) worked with CRN and Hatch’s senior staff to develop a strategy to persuade the Judiciary Committee to forgo the opportunity to offer amendments and instead send the bill to the floor under a unanimous consent procedure, UNPA president Loren Israelsen noted in a statement.

That strategy paid off, with the bill passing by unanimous consent with no record of individual votes.

UNPA expressed gratitude to Sens. Hatch and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) for spearheading the effort, and thanked Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) for deferring his interest in offering amendments. Any amendments to DASCA in the Senate, UNPA noted, would have killed the bill because there was not time for the House to consider them.

“Passage of this bill was one of CRN’s top legislative priorities this year, as responsible member companies want to do all that they can to solve the problem of anabolic steroids illegally being sold as dietary supplements," Mister said.

Mike Greene, vice president of government relations with CRN, said the passage of DASCA was anything but a shoo-in. “This Congress hasn’t done very much and, of course, we had a major shift last month where the Republicans took over the Senate. There was a strong possibility that DASCA would not have been passed last night," he said in a phone interview.

But due to hard work and efforts from a number of stakeholders, including the trade associations, “we got it over the edge," Greene said.

The passage of DASCA this week coincided with the retirement of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), who is considered a longtime champion of the supplement industry and is departing Capitol Hill after having served 40 years in Congress.

DASCA grants the Attorney General authority to temporarily schedule additional anabolic steroids that have recently emerged if he makes certain findings. DEA must notify HHS of such an order. The Attorney General also has authority to publish a list of products that he has determined contain an anabolic steroid and are not labeled in accordance with federal law.

Greene said the dietary supplement industry lobbied vigorously for Section 2 of the bill.

That section narrowly defines anabolic steroids, homing in on products that are marketed to promote muscle growth or a pharmacological effect similar to testosterone. A substance that is not on the controlled substances list is excluded from the definition of anabolic steroids if it is an herb or other botanical, the substance is a dietary ingredient under the Federal, Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (FD&C), and it is not anabolic or androgenic. But a company that claims an exemption bears the burden of proof claiming it.

“We don’t want DEA going after legitimate dietary supplement products," Greene said.

--> Oh, no. Of course not...

Michael McGuffin, president of the American Herbal Products Association, said the industry had been concerned that the definition of anabolic steroids would inadvertently result in a ban on products that lawmakers didn’t intend to address. Although McGuffin isn’t aware of any botanicals that are marketed to promote muscular growth, it's possible future research could legitimately demonstrate such a botanical or herb could do so.

“Suppose there is an herb that promotes muscle growth," McGuffin said in a phone interview. “Why would we exclude that from the marketplace when that’s not the kind of problem that was the purpose for which this good law was passed?"
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tell me about it.. I watched a whole season of How I Met Your Mother today..anyway...to stay on point....I cant believe this was pushed so hard last minute
 
FNF5989 said:
tell me about it.. I watched a whole season of How I Met Your Mother today..anyway...to stay on point....I cant believe this was pushed so hard last minute
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They got us by the balls.

If anything we just stimulated the economy by buying up remaining supplies. And you know who that profits....? :)

Relevant:

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Besides designer steroids, I havent seen any big sales of PHs like 1-andro, which I am assuming will be banned too. Anyone know of any?
 
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WOW! SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SLAP THE SH*T OUT OF ALL THESE ASSH*LES MAKES ME SICK! THERES A SIMPLE WAY OF DEFINING ONE PRODUCT/SUPPLEMENT FROM ANOTHER THEREFORE IT WOULD NOT TAINT GNC'S F*GG*T AS* BUSINESS AND EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE SELLING "HIGH QUALITY" MARKETED THAT IS B.S. THAT DOESNT DO A DAMN THING BUT MAKE YOU GROW HAIR ON YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER AND FEEL LIKE YOUR HAVING AN ANXIETY ATTACK B.S. SUPPLEMENTS MAKES ME SICK THEY WANT YOU TO PAY OUT THE A** FOR SOME B.S. THAT DOES NOTHING!!! AND LIKE I SAID THERES A HUUUGE LINE BETWEEN SOMETHING BAD AND SOMETHING GOOD THEREFORE THERES NO REASON TO F*CK WITH ALL THESE PH'S OUT THERE, ANYTHING CAN HURT YOU TYLENOL OR BABY ASPIRIN FOR SAKE IF TAKEN WRONG CAN BUT NOOOOOOO THESE ARE SO DAMN DANGEROUS LETS LEGALIZE METH CAUSE IT DOES SOMETHING GOOD, (COST TAXPAYERS MONEY) THEREFORE CONGRESS AND ALL THOSE OTHER A**HOLES GET MORE MONEY FUNDED TO THEM TO KEEP SCREWING US AND CIRCLE JERKING OVER AND OVER OUR FREEDOM AND OUR MONEY AND LIVES, LET ME LIVE MY LIFE AND DO WHAT THE F**K I WANT, IF I GET SICK OR DIE THATS MY FAULT NOT ANYTHING SOMEONE SOLD ME, !
 
Methasterone said:
With all the surprises Obama has given this country, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't sign. Lol
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Well then perhaps we could all unite and visualize Barack's hand seize up just as he is about to sign the bill and then he will say "signing this is not the will of the Gods " the iron Gods !
 
Too bad that the one group who speaks for supplements and has enough juice to even get the ear of a politician or two and enough money to then get them to pass legislation decides to do this. All they had to do was write the bill so hormonals could not be sold as supplements and anyone caught mislabeling or doing so was in for the hurt. You didn't have to set out to make companies who one day were doing a legal business magically turn into the steroid equivalent of the Medellín cartel overnight.

They just don't get it. Hatch was one of the only guys who ever really protected the industry. You have him retiring and perhaps this was a move to form new alliances within the house for the "good guys" in the industry.




























sucky situation still sucky today
 
max d said:
Anyone see any sales of 1-andro. The price hasnr changed on it at all.
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1 andro isn't on the list!!!! Iml still has it 25 percent off
 
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