Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act Passes Senate

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Best cycle I've ever run was Trestoderm at 100mg and Formeron. Sad to see Form go away but I believe Celtic will continue making Trestoderm.
 
kissdadookie said:
BA also said they will continue to sell everything more or less IIRC... so... I dunno? Or maybe that was one of the Celtic guys... I forget.
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Nope. That was BA. And just what's on the list they're removing, the other lesser-known compounds are staying (thankfully).
 
heavyiron said:
I think many shops will do this but not restock anything that can be targeted in the future with this new legislation.
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Exactly. Plus I know you rep for IML, can't the products now say: "Not for human consumption." Or "For Non-Human Research Purposes."
 
Anybody else get hosed by IML when you ordered and the buy3get1 doesn't disappear until AFTER your order goes through? They're CS is trying to tell me that it doesnt count for the clearance items but it clearly showed the entire way through and then after i completed the purchase it billed me the full price... Even my receipt shows the discounts but then magically adds the money back on.
 
T-Bone said:
Yes, but the question is, how can you repeatedly take a product and not know/understand what the active ingredient is and/or what you are actually taking?. That's just scary.
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tards gonna tard.
 
The Engineer said:
Exactly. Plus I know you rep for IML, can't the products now say: "Not for human consumption." Or "For Non-Human Research Purposes."
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No, these are/will be scheduled so zero loopholes.

Any RC shop selling capsules is nuts. Its one thing to have a liquid chem for a petri dish experiment but caps is a method used mostly for human ingestion.
 
booneman77 said:
Anybody else get hosed by IML when you ordered and the buy3get1 doesn't disappear until AFTER your order goes through? They're CS is trying to tell me that it doesnt count for the clearance items but it clearly showed the entire way through and then after i completed the purchase it billed me the full price... Even my receipt shows the discounts but then magically adds the money back on.
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We did have a glitch as the IML site was being modified today. Things are moving so fast right now its hard to keep all the tech issues fixed and up to date brother.
 
Olympus Labs said:
Well, not that I think it changes things, but the bill in 2004 was enacted after being signed by the President on October 22, 2004. It passed congress on Oct 8th, 2004. That bill would have passed regardless since congress was still in session, but according to the literature I've read congress is no longer in session as of the 11th. This bill was also brought up on the last day in the last hours that congress was in session, we all knew it would pass if brought up but the importance of the bill itself can be seen in the last minute it was brought up versus how early on the 2004 bill was brought up, and if the signing period of the last bill tells us anything it's that it took longer than ten days to sign.
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1. Congress is still in session.

2. If Congress adjourns and the bill is not signed within 10 days of its passing then the bill dies. Its called a pocket veto.

3. Congress usually assigns agents to receive veto messages and/or communication to avoid a pocket veto.
 
T-Bone said:
Yes, but the question is, how can you repeatedly take a product and not know/understand what the active ingredient is and/or what you are actually taking?. That's just scary.
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But how do you know I don't what the active ingredient is or does? All I was trying to confirm was that formeron was the same as formestane., I had only used the topical and didn't know about the oral.. Just wanted to confirm it was on the list
 
heavyiron said:
No, these are/will be scheduled so zero loopholes.

Any RC shop selling capsules is nuts. Its one thing to have a liquid chem for a petri dish experiment but caps is a method used mostly for human ingestion.
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So then hypothetically speaking, can we see the industry moving more towards or exclusively towards liquid-based PHs/DS?
 
The Engineer said:
So then hypothetically speaking, can we see the industry moving more towards or exclusively towards liquid-based PHs/DS?
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No, even that won't work. This new law is broad and it has teeth. No legit company in the USA that can be tracked down will go that route. Maybe an underground lab or maybe someone who's small and gambles they won't be caught but no one that's legit will
 
heavyiron said:
No, even that won't work. This new law is broad and it has teeth. No legit company in the USA that can be tracked down will go that route. Maybe an underground lab or maybe someone who's small and gambles they won't be caught but no one that's legit will
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Well, damn. That's annoying.
 
Admin said:
1. Congress is still in session.

2. If Congress adjourns and the bill is not signed within 10 days of its passing then the bill dies. Its called a pocket veto.

3. Congress usually assigns agents to receive veto messages and/or communication to avoid a pocket veto.
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Are they staying longer than scheduled? I'm going based off this: Invalid Link Removed

I was of the opinion that they brought up the bill the last day they were in session on the 11th.
 
Olympus Labs said:
Are they staying longer than scheduled? I'm going based off this: Invalid Link Removed

I was of the opinion that they brought up the bill the last day they were in session on the 11th.
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Senate is still in session....they are trying to wrap it up tonight.
 
heavyiron said:
One thing I know. Most guys in this industry are innovative and will adapt so hopefully we will see new legal compounds that work.
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Of course. Marketing will have to change and we'll definitely see innovation.

My only concern is the safety of new, unexplored compounds.
 
If there's a 30 day grace period or if products need to be added to the list what is stopping companies from offering new ph's that are not listed then when it gets added to the list and they sell the remaining stock when it does and offer a new one not on the list? Or is this just as bad as selling products that are on the list?
 
booneman77 I myself ordered overnight and the same thing happened to me. I emailed support and have now gotten 2 different responses from them. I got a first one saying that they can refund the cost for 1 of everything I ordered that was buy 3 get 1 free, and then I have received another saying that it does not apply. I just got home so I have no replied yet but am about to do so. My feeling is, I am well aware that they are discounted down, but it clearly does state the whole way through out the process that if you buy 3 you get the 4th free. If that is not the case it needs to state that. heavyiron What is our best option of getting this resolved?
 
mlefler83 said:
booneman77 I myself ordered overnight and the same thing happened to me. I emailed support and have now gotten 2 different responses from them. I got a first one saying that they can refund the cost for 1 of everything I ordered that was buy 3 get 1 free, and then I have received another saying that it does not apply. I just got home so I have no replied yet but am about to do so. My feeling is, I am well aware that they are discounted down, but it clearly does state the whole way through out the process that if you buy 3 you get the 4th free. If that is not the case it needs to state that. heavyiron What is our best option of getting this resolved?
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Take this to PM or their forum. This thread is not a customer service, sale thread. Thank you.
 
damn this is some bull**** wtf im glad i logged on here so I know. about to finish up a cycle need to get some more stuff
 
No problem, sorry was just replying to the question asking if others had the problem as well. I am currently in talk with their support.
 
Sss23 said:
If there's a 30 day grace period or if products need to be added to the list what is stopping companies from offering new ph's that are not listed then when it gets added to the list and they sell the remaining stock when it does and offer a new one not on the list? Or is this just as bad as selling products that are on the list?
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It can take weeks or months to develop a product under the best of circumstances and then there are discounts to stores that buy in bulk. Although your idea would possibly work it would cause an increase in cost for sure. I can't imagine having a new product each month, have it banned and then have to dump the remaining stock.
 
heavyiron said:
Great, just contact them directly brother. Its the fastest method of resolution.

Thanks!
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I had an issue with them and called them yesterday afternoon. They advisde me it would be rectified and I would receive a refund. Received an email that evening from them advising of the refund and noticed it on my bank statement. Great customer service
 
heavyiron said:
We did have a glitch as the IML site was being modified today. Things are moving so fast right now its hard to keep all the tech issues fixed and up to date brother.
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they refused to honor this and I was forced to just cancel my order. Total bs.
 
only found one review the guy said good results but sounds like he ran a few on cycles and liver cycles and said he was still hurting bad pi**ing brown lol I want super dmz from IML but they raised price and im trying to get 3 for under $100 legendarys comes to $95
 
The Engineer said:
All PHs can be used to bulk. If you're looking for wet, your best bet is alpha-1 or trestolone.
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For sure, I didn't specify sorry looking for good supplement deal on a 3 combo like dmz or msten or super dmz for under $120, after IML raised theirs they put my order out of range price wise...
 
Admin said:
1. Congress is still in session.

2. If Congress adjourns and the bill is not signed within 10 days of its passing then the bill dies. Its called a pocket veto.

3. Congress usually assigns agents to receive veto messages and/or communication to avoid a pocket veto.
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So is there a chance this thing may still fail?
 
If any of you think that a legal non-prohormone product will come anywhere close to prohormone physiological effects... you're in for a sad realization.
 
Rhadam said:
If any of you think that a legal non-prohormone product will come anywhere close to prohormone physiological effects... you're in for a sad realization.
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But bro, tribulus
 
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