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Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act Passes Senate

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Maybe this ban will help us all not stay sloppy honestly when u r walking around sub teen bf% you pretty much looked jacked on or off
 
Royd The Noyd said:
You can get 1-test, which defeats the purpose of 1-ADiol

It does not effect reaearch chemicals that are actually sold for research purposes. However it does effect dietary supplements that contain the AI's formestane and 6-bromo and potentially others depending upon your interpretation of the bill.

No.
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I thought this was an amendment of a bill which wouldnt affect dietary supplements unless they contained the aforementioned compounds?
 
jmyers said:
Worked for me bro last night
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I don't know. What was the initial price of the product you purchased? 19.99?

Right now. Halo, for example, is 19.99. If you buy three get one free you will see a 19.99 discount if you add 4 to your cart. If you add the code heavyiron15 it removed the 19.99 and instead has a 15% off discount of $12.00. It does not show both 19.99 and 12.00.
 
FireRescue said:
I don't know. What was the initial price of the product you purchased? 19.99? Right now. Halo, for example, is 19.99. If you buy three get one free you will see a 19.99 discount if you add 4 to your cart. If you add the code heavyiron15 it removed the 19.99 and instead has a 15% off discount of $12.00. It does not show both 19.99 and 12.00.
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Codes won't work the the three slashed priced products.
It will work on everything else.
 
FireRescue said:
I don't know. What was the initial price of the product you purchased? 19.99?

Right now. Halo, for example, is 19.99. If you buy three get one free you will see a 19.99 discount if you add 4 to your cart. If you add the code heavyiron15 it removed the 19.99 and instead has a 15% off discount of $12.00. It does not show both 19.99 and 12.00.
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We dropped the base price last night and suspended the coupon code for Halo, DecaDrol and EpiTren. Most guys are buying $200 worth of prods to get free shipping. The PHBAN code still works for the other IML products.

Halo, DecaDrol and EpiTren is being sold within cents of our cost. Place 4 Halo Extreme in your cart for the best deal brother. This comes out to $17.50 per bottle

Thanks!
 
scope75 said:
That code probably doesn't work anymore since the price dropped to 20 bucks which is like 50% off and even a better deal if you add 4/8 in your cart. That code still works on the other products though.
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Picked up 8 halo extreme for $129 shipped. Good deal? I honestly haven't researched halo that much and don't know how many cycles that will yield, but I didn't want epi tren or mechabol.
 
SquatsAndOats said:
Picked up 8 halo extreme for $129 shipped. Good deal? I honestly haven't researched halo that much and don't know how many cycles that will yield, but I didn't want epi tren or mechabol.
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Why no epitren? I was thinking of jumping on that, even though the ratio is not ideal. 10epi 20tren would be better ratio IMHO but might grab it cause that's a great price (at buy 3 get one) on epi alone
 
sinewave3 said:
Why no epitren? I was thinking of jumping on that, even though the ratio is not ideal. 10epi 20tren would be better ratio IMHO but might grab it cause that's a great price (at buy 3 get one) on epi alone
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I don't like epi that much. Bad experience, and I already have 4 bottles of Tr3n by OL
 
peter01 said:
Do you feel better about yourself there junior?

My post is no different than any other post in this entire thread.

I have not seen any decent deals other than EPI-TREN. Not looking for epi. No good sales on tren solo products. Hence the question.
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Jiigzz said:
I thought this was an amendment of a bill which wouldnt affect dietary supplements unless they contained the aforementioned compounds?
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I don't fully understand your question but this is an amendment to the Controlled Substances Act which has things such as boldione, and Trenbolone listed. But the amendment specifically includes formestane and versions of 6-bromo. Which typically are sold as dietary Supps not research chems.
 
peter01 said:
Do you feel better about yourself there junior?

My post is no different than any other post in this entire thread.

I have not seen any decent deals other than EPI-TREN. Not looking for epi. No good sales on tren solo products. Hence the question.
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That's exactly my point! This thread was started to discuss the bill itself, not to have people ask for the best deals. If you and all the other lazy members would actually look and do some negotiations, you'd be able to find the deals. Instead, we have close to a 1000 posts of people asking the same stupid questions over and over and not actually read sh1t.

Will (insert whatever PH here) be banned?
Why isn't Msten, DMZ, etc being banned?
Is there a grace period after the bill is signed?
When is it being signed?
Any deals on (insert whatever PH here)?

If we took out every damn post that had these dumb questions in it, we'd probably only have 20-30 posts in this bloody thread.

You know what, if you want a "good" deal, actually phone the retailers up and negotiate with them. I may or may not know of someone that did this and spent about $2500 on about $7000 worth of PH's. These places need to get rid of stock, and if you flash the cash in front of them, they will help you out in whatever way they can.
 
juniorab said:
That's exactly my point! This thread was started to discuss the bill itself, not to have people ask for the best deals. If you and all the other lazy members would actually look and do some negotiations, you'd be able to find the deals. Instead, we have close to a 1000 posts of people asking the same stupid questions over and over and not actually read sh1t.

Will (insert whatever PH here) be banned?
Why isn't Msten, DMZ, etc being banned?
Is there a grace period after the bill is signed?
When is it being signed?
Any deals on (insert whatever PH here)?

If we took out every damn post that had these dumb questions in it, we'd probably only have 20-30 posts in this bloody thread.

You know what, if you want a "good" deal, actually phone the retailers up and negotiate with them. I may or may not know of someone that did this and spent about $2500 on about $7000 worth of PH's. These places need to get rid of stock, and if you flash the cash in front of them, they will help you out in whatever way they can.
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To piggy back on this, I called nutri-verse and I negotiated my deal on d1methadrol. Granted it was only one bottle, but the point is that these distributors want to off load stock and if you give them a call they will work with you.

As for the questions, yeah, people just don't know how to read...
 
juniorab said:
That's exactly my point! This thread was started to discuss the bill itself, not to have people ask for the best deals. If you and all the other lazy members would actually look and do some negotiations, you'd be able to find the deals. Instead, we have close to a 1000 posts of people asking the same stupid questions over and over and not actually read sh1t.

Will (insert whatever PH here) be banned?
Why isn't Msten, DMZ, etc being banned?
Is there a grace period after the bill is signed?
When is it being signed?
Any deals on (insert whatever PH here)?

If we took out every damn post that had these dumb questions in it, we'd probably only have 20-30 posts in this bloody thread.

You know what, if you want a "good" deal, actually phone the retailers up and negotiate with them. I may or may not know of someone that did this and spent about $2500 on about $7000 worth of PH's. These places need to get rid of stock, and if you flash the cash in front of them, they will help you out in whatever way they can.
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Seems a tad overboard for a simple question. Would you feel better if I go ahead and delete my post?
 
Question:

Yes, we are solidified in our supplements and methods of acquiring muscle, and obviously now they're going away which has spurred most of the panic in this thread. But the market bounces back quickly. When SD and M1T were banned, we got MSten/DMZ and Alpha-1. These are/were still extremely potent products. So why the fuss? Why the panic? We're still going to get PHs, they just might not be advertised as PHs.

Lasly, we can still acquire M1T, SD, M-Dien, M4OHN from overseas distributors that WILL deliver to the states. So, really, this "sky is falling" nonsense doesn't hold merit. We will lose some of our favorite companies, and have already lost IronFlex, which is huge bummer, but it doesn't take a genius to google search the reputation of some of these other companies.
 
The Engineer said:
Question:

Yes, we are solidified in our supplements and methods of acquiring muscle, and obviously now they're going away which has spurred most of the panic in this thread. But the market bounces back quickly. When SD and M1T were banned, we got MSten/DMZ and Alpha-1. These are/were still extremely potent products. So why the fuss? Why the panic? We're still going to get PHs, they just might not be advertised as PHs.

Lasly, we can still acquire M1T, SD, M-Dien, M4OHN from overseas distributors that WILL deliver to the states. So, really, this "sky is falling" nonsense doesn't hold merit. We will lose some of our favorite companies, and have already lost IronFlex, which is huge bummer, but it doesn't take a genius to google search the reputation of some of these other companies.
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I'm honestly more wary of the insanity of new compounds that may possibly come out due to this. Prepare your organs folks! :P

I wonder if the other oximes will ever come out now due to this...
 
juniorab said:
That's exactly my point! This thread was started to discuss the bill itself, not to have people ask for the best deals. If you and all the other lazy members would actually look and do some negotiations, you'd be able to find the deals. Instead, we have close to a 1000 posts of people asking the same stupid questions over and over and not actually read sh1t.

Will (insert whatever PH here) be banned?
Why isn't Msten, DMZ, etc being banned?
Is there a grace period after the bill is signed?
When is it being signed?
Any deals on (insert whatever PH here)?

If we took out every damn post that had these dumb questions in it, we'd probably only have 20-30 posts in this bloody thread.

You know what, if you want a "good" deal, actually phone the retailers up and negotiate with them. I may or may not know of someone that did this and spent about $2500 on about $7000 worth of PH's. These places need to get rid of stock, and if you flash the cash in front of them, they will help you out in whatever way they can.
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Methylated88 said:
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Not cereal at all, my man. Just having some laughs and shaking my head at everyone in such a panic. I have honestly never even done a PH/DS or steroid in my life. I've been training for close to 20 years and have won a few shows in my day. I find it humorous that everyone thinks that this is going to kill all their gains or make them weak. If you are dependant on chemicals in order to get the body you want, then you seriously need to sit down and take a serious look at your nutrition and training program. Lol.
 
So question about the bill...
Let's assume for fun B-rock doesn't sign the bill...it gets sent to senate and they pass it. How is this fair under checks and balances? The leader of the country can use an executive order to allow immigrants in, but he can't say no to a substance bill?


Sorry I'm not a political major, I'm a nursing major...
 
kissdadookie said:
I'm honestly more wary of the insanity of new compounds that may possibly come out due to this. Prepare your organs folks! :P

I wonder if the other oximes will ever come out now due to this...
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From anecdotal reports, Oximes are the drier cousins of the PH world and need to be dosed higher. We're talking 4-6 caps to notice that you're on a PH.

Dianadrol and M1T Oxime are both very dry and need higher dosages, but the good news is they aren't going away.
 
The Engineer said:
From anecdotal reports, Oximes are the drier cousins of the PH world and need to be dosed higher. We're talking 4-6 caps to notice that you're on a PH.

Dianadrol and M1T Oxime are both very dry and need higher dosages, but the good news is they aren't going away.
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I don't see how a compound being "dry" or "wet" has to do with efficacy :P All that means is that you hold less water with one whilst the other you tend to hold on to more water weight.

Haven't seen much reporting on M1T Oxime, have been curious about that one.

FNF5989 said:
So question about the bill...
Let's assume for fun B-rock doesn't sign the bill...it gets sent to senate and they pass it. How is this fair under checks and balances? The leader of the country can use an executive order to allow immigrants in, but he can't say no to a substance bill?


Sorry I'm not a political major, I'm a nursing major...
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If you're a politician, you would be out of your mind to say no to a steroid bill. LoL. Why? Because the mass majority of the public sees steroids to be in the same category as let's say, heroine.
 
FNF5989 said:
So question about the bill...
Let's assume for fun B-rock doesn't sign the bill...it gets sent to senate and they pass it. How is this fair under checks and balances? The leader of the country can use an executive order to allow immigrants in, but he can't say no to a substance bill?


Sorry I'm not a political major, I'm a nursing major...
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Since it was passed unanimously, they have the power to override his veto.

As someone said earlier, they have everything to gain and not much if anything to lose by passing this bill. The vast majority of america is anti-ped's.
 
Dang....lack of education really does take effect...oh well...honestly I'm somewhat stoked to see what new stuff will come out...
 
kissdadookie said:
I don't see how a compound being "dry" or "wet" has to do with efficacy :P All that means is that you hold less water with one whilst the other you tend to hold on to more water weight.

Haven't seen much reporting on M1T Oxime, have been curious about that one.
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No, no on the contrary. It's just that if people who have run M1T or Alpha-1 are expecting "wet" gains, then they would be disappointed with M1T Oxime. That's not to say it's a viable compound. Plus the oximes seem to quell the harshness of their target hormones which is a huge plus.

I was simply pointing out the oximes behave differently, but in a good way.
 
FNF5989 said:
So question about the bill...
Let's assume for fun B-rock doesn't sign the bill...it gets sent to senate and they pass it. How is this fair under checks and balances? The leader of the country can use an executive order to allow immigrants in, but he can't say no to a substance bill?


Sorry I'm not a political major, I'm a nursing major...
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Well, not that I think it changes things, but the bill in 2004 was enacted after being signed by the President on October 22, 2004. It passed congress on Oct 8th, 2004. That bill would have passed regardless since congress was still in session, but according to the literature I've read congress is no longer in session as of the 11th. This bill was also brought up on the last day in the last hours that congress was in session, we all knew it would pass if brought up but the importance of the bill itself can be seen in the last minute it was brought up versus how early on the 2004 bill was brought up, and if the signing period of the last bill tells us anything it's that it took longer than ten days to sign.
 
peter01 said:
Since it was passed unanimously, they have the power to override his veto.

As someone said earlier, they have everything to gain and not much if anything to lose by passing this bill. The vast majority of america is anti-ped's.
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Vast majority of us are fat lazy and stupid. This whole country needs a PED.
 
The Engineer said:
No, no on the contrary. It's just that if people who have run M1T or Alpha-1 are expecting "wet" gains, then they would be disappointed with M1T Oxime. That's not to say it's a viable compound. Plus the oximes seem to quell the harshness of their target hormones which is a huge plus.

I was simply pointing out the oximes behave differently, but in a good way.
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Hmmm... I wonder if they are relatively effective at labeled dosages then... or if it's another tren situation where let's say if you were using Super Tren, most people would run at least 3 bottles for 8 weeks but most likely 4 bottles. With 8 weeks being a pretty popular cycle length for it.
 
kissdadookie said:
Hmmm... I wonder if they are relatively effective at labeled dosages then... or if it's another tren situation where let's say if you were using Super Tren, most people would run at least 3 bottles for 8 weeks but most likely 4 bottles. With 8 weeks being a pretty popular cycle length for it.
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Exactly. Everything I've read about trenavar is that it needs at least 90mg with 120mg being the sweet spot with cycles going up to 8 weeks due to not being methylated.

A guy on PHF went up to 200mg a day and ate through 6 bottles in a matter of weeks. He reported that at the dose it behaves like real tren but the cost benefit ratio isn't worth it.

With the Oximes, I think because they're new and because there's not much literature on them the manufacturer is purposefully allowing for easier dosage schemes.

For example, Dianadrol (which is DBOL Oxime) plays nicely at 90mg (6 caps), but Dimethabold (which is 2 17 methandrostenolone) only needs about 45-60mg (3-4 caps), The two are very different, however, and that's due to the oxime attachment. Dianadrol is dry, but bulkier than Mecha or Halo. Dimethabold is slightly wet, even though the 2,17 should make it dry even though DBOL itself aromatizes.
 
Raws and brew
 
BCseacow83 said:
Vast majority of us are fat lazy and stupid. This whole country needs a PED.
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This country's masculinity took a dive when Arnold, Stallone, and Van Damme were phased out of action movies. The next generation's action heroes were comprised of Michael Keaton in a batman suit, Robert Downey Jr in a metal suit, and tom cruise in a spandex suit. All good actors, but no physical presence. Toys and gadgets kicked ass instead of muscles.

Stallone and company are trying to make a comeback but society is not taking any of that. They don't want to pay good money to eat butter popcorn and candy while watching a movie just to feel inferior.
 
peter01 said:
This country's masculinity took a dive when Arnold, Stallone, and Van Damme were phased out of action movies. The next generation's action heroes were comprised of Michael Keaton in a batman suit, Robert Downey Jr in a metal suit, and tom cruise in a spandex suit. All good actors, but no physical presence. Toys and gadgets kicked ass instead of muscles.

Stallone and company are trying to make a comeback but society is not taking any of that. They don't want to pay good money to eat butter popcorn and candy while watching a movie just to feel inferior.
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TOTALLY agree bro! its more about convenience and lazy cigarettes alcohol drinking super heros now, I mean I liked bruce willis but after that it got to lame... and our heros from back in the day always made you wanna work out and get bigger... sucks
 
The Engineer said:
Exactly. Everything I've read about trenavar is that it needs at least 90mg with 120mg being the sweet spot with cycles going up to 8 weeks due to not being methylated. A guy on PHF went up to 200mg a day and ate through 6 bottles in a matter of weeks. He reported that at the dose it behaves like real tren but the cost benefit ratio isn't worth it. With the Oximes, I think because they're new and because there's not much literature on them the manufacturer is purposefully allowing for easier dosage schemes. For example, Dianadrol (which is DBOL Oxime) plays nicely at 90mg (6 caps), but Dimethabold (which is 2 17 methandrostenolone) only needs about 45-60mg (3-4 caps), The two are very different, however, and that's due to the oxime attachment. Dianadrol is dry, but bulkier than Mecha or Halo.
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I'm in love with dimethabold though, just a heads up on a good one from Celtic to pick up. But yeah 60 is the sweet spot on that
 
peter01 said:
This country's masculinity took a dive when Arnold, Stallone, and Van Damme were phased out of action movies. The next generation's action heroes were comprised of Michael Keaton in a batman suit, Robert Downey Jr in a metal suit, and tom cruise in a spandex suit. All good actors, but no physical presence. Toys and gadgets kicked ass instead of muscles. Stallone and company are trying to make a comeback but society is not taking any of that. They don't want to pay good money to eat butter popcorn and candy while watching a movie just to feel inferior.
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Haha, now the heros are skinny teenage kids like on the movie "Kick Ass"!
 
mgkoret said:
I'm in love with dimethabold though, just a heads up on a good one from Celtic to pick up. But yeah 60 is the sweet spot on that
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Yeah, it truly is a sleeper compound. According to BA it should not be going away, so we're good :)
 
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