Dermacrine as an Anavar test base.

[Davy25]

Would dermacrine or pharma androgel suffice as a test base for Anavar? I know a lot of people use it for sarms cycles, but would it combat suppression enough for an oral AAS cycle?

Anybody done this before?

 

[Godstrength]

Androgel would for sure as it is increasing your testosterone via the gel which is exactly what you want while being shutdown.

 

[Nac]

Id do both tbh.

The lethargy on var can be unlike anything else, in that it is largely unrelated to the hPTA shutdown but cortisol (I believe). Guys who run var with 300mg IM test per week still report lethargy issues (not e2 related, either).

So you have two choices, really. Throw everything at it practically speaking. And/Or try work through it.

I didnt find the lethargy too oppressive myself, FWIW.

 

[Godstrength]

Id do both tbh.

The lethargy on var can be unlike anything else, in that it is largely unrelated to the hPTA shutdown but cortisol (I believe). Guys who run var with 300mg IM test per week still report lethargy issues (not e2 related, either).

So you have two choices, really. Throw everything at it practically speaking. And/Or try work through it.

I didnt find the lethargy too oppressive myself, FWIW.

That's crazy I don't find it that suppressive either but also have test base. But I don't run it over 60/day which imo is plenty w legit anavar.

 

[rtmilburn]

Id do both tbh.

The lethargy on var can be unlike anything else, in that it is largely unrelated to the hPTA shutdown but cortisol (I believe). Guys who run var with 300mg IM test per week still report lethargy issues (not e2 related, either).

So you have two choices, really. Throw everything at it practically speaking. And/Or try work through it.

I didnt find the lethargy too oppressive myself, FWIW.

This. The lethargy from anavar seems to be due to it's ability to displace corticosteroids, such as cortisol, and nothing to do with suppression or estrogen.

 

[rtmilburn]

This. The lethargy from anavar seems to be due to it's ability to displace corticosteroids, such as cortisol, and nothing to do with suppression or estrogen.

Also the pregnenolone in dermacrine may help with this.

 

[Davy25]

Is the consensus that running anavar with dermacrine is fine and you will avoid the lethargy associated with shutdown?

 

[rtmilburn]

Is the consensus that running anavar with dermacrine is fine and you will avoid the lethargy associated with shutdown?

I don't have the time to give a good answer but in short no. I'll let someone like Nac respond or I will respond when I have time. It will help but I think your question is misleading

 

[Nac]

Is the consensus that running anavar with dermacrine is fine and you will avoid the lethargy associated with shutdown?

Yes, fine.

Avoid corticosteroid-related lethargy if you experience it, unlikely.

 

[Davy25]

Yes, fine.

Avoid corticosteroid-related lethargy if you experience it, unlikely.

Have you *or anyone* ever ran an anavar only cycle or better yet a tbol only cycle. How comparable would the asethetic gains/ strength gains be to LGD or Rad 140?

 

[Nac]

Due to the circumstances in which Ive used it, I can really only attest to the recomp effects of var: really fukin good. LGD doesnt even compare.