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Dermacrine is listed as having dhea, benzo 7,8, pregnenolone, and trans res. Icon one has 1-dhea, 5-dhea, and pregnenolone...

I was slightly confused... is DHEA and 5-DHEA the same thing? Then on strongsupplements website it lists the ingredients as "
112.5mg 1-DHEA
94.5mg DHEA
18mg Pregnenolone"

I am interested in this product as I loveeee Sustain Alpha and just want clarifications... thanks!
 
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Yes, I believe 5-DHEA is the same as DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone). Also sometimes called Super 5-DHEA.


I was confused by this as well recently, but even further confused when the product I was looking at claimed to contain Super 5-DHEA, yet the ingredient panel itself says Androsterone. That product is MuscleGelz Testrozone.

If you want to know anything else, I am sure @thebigt could help you out...
 

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Yes, I believe 5-DHEA is the same as DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone). Also sometimes called Super 5-DHEA.


I was confused by this as well recently, but even further confused when the product I was looking at claimed to contain Super 5-DHEA, yet the ingredient panel itself says Androsterone. That product is MuscleGelz Testrozone.

If you want to know anything else, I am sure @thebigt could help you out...

Thanks man... I thought they were the same thing but wanted to verify before any kind of purchase is made.
 
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Best is @delsolrob fields the technical part of this. Dermacrine contains both 5-DHEA and Pregnenolone. The addition of 1-DHEA that makes Icon One.
 
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Dermacrine is listed as having dhea, benzo 7,8, pregnenolone, and trans res. Icon one has 1-dhea, 5-dhea, and pregnenolone...

I was slightly confused... is DHEA and 5-DHEA the same thing? Then on strongsupplements website it lists the ingredients as "
112.5mg 1-DHEA
94.5mg DHEA
18mg Pregnenolone"

I am interested in this product as I loveeee Sustain Alpha and just want clarifications... thanks!
1-dhea=1 andro.

dhea and 5-dhea are same just different nomenclature[terminology].
hope that answers your questions, if not feel free to ask here or pm me.
lol, i love sustain alpha too.
 

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1-dhea=1 andro.

dhea and 5-dhea are same just different nomenclature[terminology].
hope that answers your questions, if not feel free to ask here or pm me.
lol, i love sustain alpha too.

That is what I figured... thanks for the clarification! Now as for Sustain Alpha, on here most people claim it to be an A.I. However, from reading the description it seems to be more of a Test Booster, excellent for use post cycle as it helps to restart natural production. I usually feel great when taking it as part of a PCT for that reason.
 
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That is what I figured... thanks for the clarification! Now as for Sustain Alpha, on here most people claim it to be an A.I. However, from reading the description it seems to be more of a Test Booster, excellent for use post cycle as it helps to restart natural production. I usually feel great when taking it as part of a PCT for that reason.
sustain alpha is a great libido booster feel good product that has a mild AI included in formula...I say mild AI but it is effective enough that additional AI should not be needed.

sutain alpha has been a go-to for pct for many years, I've heard lots of guys say they always include it.
 

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sustain alpha is a great libido booster feel good product that has a mild AI included in formula...I say mild AI but it is effective enough that additional AI should not be needed.

sutain alpha has been a go-to for pct for many years, I've heard lots of guys say they always include it.
Yeah I love it... I think the ingredients are just so much more readily absorbed transdermal with the carriers than orally...
 
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Yeah I love it... I think the ingredients are just so much more readily absorbed transdermal with the carriers than orally...
trans res in particular-it is practically worthless as a oral
 
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I am pretty sure almost all supplements and medications are better absorbed transdermal or intravenous.
some more than others!!! molecular weight prevents a lot of ingredients from transdermals, and others get absorbed so well orally that makes transdermal delivery unnecessary. iconic formulations/iron legion focus on ingredients that benefit from transdermal application!!!
 

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some more than others!!! molecular weight prevents a lot of ingredients from transdermals, and others get absorbed so well orally that makes transdermal delivery unnecessary. iconic formulations/iron legion focus on ingredients that benefit from transdermal application!!!
I more and less meant hormonal stuff... I cannot imagine a transdermal caffeine product haha.
 
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I more and less meant hormonal stuff... I cannot imagine a transdermal caffeine product haha.
don't laugh but I bet there is a caffeine transdermal patch out there.
 
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Sorry for the bump all, but just about to order two bottles from PowerMyself and was just wondering - being a huge fan of Dermacrine - would this require a more comprehensive PCT/SERM than what I use coming off the back of Dermacrine (Rebirth and Sustain Alpha or K1ngs Blood /Testify/Decent test booster)?
And could I run 6 weeks on, 5 pumps a day like I do with Derma or more/less than that?
 
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Sorry for the bump all, but just about to order two bottles from PowerMyself and was just wondering - being a huge fan of Dermacrine - would this require a more comprehensive PCT/SERM than what I use coming off the back of Dermacrine (Rebirth and Sustain Alpha or K1ngs Blood /Testify/Decent test booster)?
And could I run 6 weeks on, 5 pumps a day like I do with Derma or more/less than that?
yes, you can run dermacrine for 6 weeks, I've done it often...and no, your normal 'pct' is more than sufficient..the suppression from dermacrine should be very minimal, most don't require any pct-but by all means if you feel more comfortable with your set up go with it!!!
 
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Sorry brother, I meant can I run Icon One like I have run Dermacrine in the past (6 weeks on with otc PCT) , or would there be a different protocol?
 
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Sorry brother, I meant can I run Icon One like I have run Dermacrine in the past (6 weeks on with otc PCT) , or would there be a different protocol?
icon one contains a ph, different protocol...I would have a serm on hand in case it is needed.
 
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icon one contains a ph, different protocol...I would have a serm on hand in case it is needed.
This. I would also make sure you have a good pct. I’m starting my run tomorrow and using clomid for pct.
 
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icon one contains a ph, different protocol...I would have a serm on hand in case it is needed.
and yes, I would recommend minimum of 6 weeks to get full benefits of icon one...
 

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