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jhebsauce

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Hey guys, just looking for a bit of advice as my plan went to hell. I was looking to start a cycle of hdrol, little did I know it was no longer made. So after planning everything out for quite some time I'm now back to square one. If useful I'm 22, 5'10" 180 and have been lifting for about 7 years now. What can I replace it with that's just as effective with limited risks and sides? I had what I thought was a decent regimen planned out, preloading with cycle assist and then stacking with it. PCT with nolva, natural test booster and creatine. Is there anything I can just substitute with? Thanks in advance
 
Get you some DMZ. Our site sponsor, premier research carries it I believe
 
You should be good to go with that plan. Only thing you might want to add is NAD or TUDCA for the liver, DMZ is more harsh on the liver than halodrol, but nothing crazy.
 
RickyBlobby said:
You should be good to go with that plan. Only thing you might want to add is NAD or TUDCA for the liver, DMZ is more harsh on the liver than halodrol, but nothing crazy.
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Okay, I thinks it's coming together. I like the sound of the tudca. Let's see how this sounds
2 wk preload of cycle assist (I believe the recommended dose is 8 pills/day so 4 morning 4 at night)
The cycle assist, stacked with DMZ 25/50/50/50/50/60 (going off of recommended doses on sellers site) and tudca. Does the DMZ seem too low or does that fit well? How should these be spaced though the day? With the hdrol it was smart to wait about 4 hrs between cycle assist and hdrol. PCT Nolva 20/20/10/10 with D-Pol and 15mg creative per day. Does this seem solid? Sorry for so many questions
 
Vicious Labs also has dmz for sale. As said already, you can still find hdrol from the uk if you do some looking around.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Vicious Labs also has dmz for sale. As said already, you can still find hdrol from the uk if you do some looking around.
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I did find some actually, I greatly appreciate all your guys help. Im going to go with that for now and do my research on the DMZ, possibly give that a shot on my next cycle.
 
jhebsauce said:
Okay, I thinks it's coming together. I like the sound of the tudca. Let's see how this sounds
2 wk preload of cycle assist (I believe the recommended dose is 8 pills/day so 4 morning 4 at night)
The cycle assist, stacked with DMZ 25/50/50/50/50/60 (going off of recommended doses on sellers site) and tudca. Does the DMZ seem too low or does that fit well? How should these be spaced though the day? With the hdrol it was smart to wait about 4 hrs between cycle assist and hdrol. PCT Nolva 20/20/10/10 with D-Pol and 15mg creative per day. Does this seem solid? Sorry for so many questions
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I know people go back and forth on the effectiveness of DAA (D-aspartic acid), but ever since I've added it to pct- and even solo, I've come to really like it. I dont have bloods to prove any empirical evidence, but I definitely notice high stamina in the gym, slight nipple sensitivity (which I assume means its having at least some effect on my hormonal profile), and having an all around feeling of well being.

I noticed these things while running it during a natural phase, years after any cycle- So it was much easier to notice any body changes off baseline. I doubt you'd notice much of this if including it in PCT, since any aas would feel incredibly better... but I do find it helps with recovery.

My PCT protocol (after SERMS) includes 3g DAA, 50mg Arimistane (eventually lowered to 25mg), ZMA every night, and 10g Creatine monohydrate per day. With the right lineup of supplements, and going extra hard in the gym and with your diet, keeping cycle gains shouldn't be too hard.

p.s. GHRP peptides are also now a staple of any pct for me. Not going to get into that now though...
Goodluck Dude.
 
I'm on Hdrol right now, its been at least 5 years since I've ran it, had 2 bottles left from 2012- wanted to use them. I've ran DMZ at least once a year for the last 3-5 years, and DMZ blows HDrol out of the water. Just sayin.
 
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