Deca....

[Casy86]

So I have been thinking about my first trip with "real gear" and being going over a lot of different combination ideas. I know most would probably say just straight Test E at 500mg for the first time but thats just not really my style. My buddy loves deca and insists that I should run that with the Test e. Now my concern is the deca dick. Those bad cases you hear about are those from lack of research and proper support supplements or is this a serious concern either way. I really don't want to be 26 relying on a pill already for sex, maybe at 27 haha.

 

[ManBeast]

then why risk it with deca? are you looking to have us tell you that it can't happen?

 

[Casy86]

No obviously anything can happen. I was just trying to gauge the level of risk here to see if its pretty common or just blown out of proportion from people who weren't doing the cycle the right way.

 

[ManBeast]

it has to do with how you react to it, its why I'm a fan of trying nandralone phenylprop before deca, it kicks in and clears faster so you can judge it better. If I ever decide to I will run NPP first.

 

[pmac]

I'm 31 years old done a few cycles with great success. Physically I'm in great shape and never had any sides to speak of. I used test up to 500 mg a week(250 e3d) and stacked HGH in there from time to time. Never got greedy.
My last cycle was test prop and DECA test was 200 3x/wk deca was 200 once a week. Great gains but after 6 weeks I got deca dick!! It's been 3 months off now and things are still not even close to correct. For a while Viagra didn't even help. The doctor tells me this **** Wong clear my system for 6 months. Do while some use deca with no sides if your not one of them the ramifications can really suck so choose wisely.
Deca stays in your system for a long time and you might not feel the sides till its too late

 

[jt339]

So I have been thinking about my first trip with "real gear" and being going over a lot of different combination ideas. I know most would probably say just straight Test E at 500mg for the first time but thats just not really my style. My buddy loves deca and insists that I should run that with the Test e. Now my concern is the deca dick. Those bad cases you hear about are those from lack of research and proper support supplements or is this a serious concern either way. I really don't want to be 26 relying on a pill already for sex, maybe at 27 haha.

The reason you are told to use test e for your first cycle is because 1. You'll know how you react to test itself and 2. if you ran test you'd get 15lbs of muscle (arbitrary) and with deca you'd get 17lb. The idea is to use as few substances as possible to get the best gains. If you have deca dick on cycle and you're taking an AI, you need cabergoline. It is a prolactin inhibitor and it is prolactin that causes your dick not to work while using 19-nors. Prolactin is also the same substance that causes your dick to be really sensitive after sex and go limp so your lady will not be opposed to caber use. Guaranteed.

it has to do with how you react to it, its why I'm a fan of trying nandralone phenylprop before deca, it kicks in and clears faster so you can judge it better. If I ever decide to I will run NPP first.

Agreed x1,000,000,000,000,000. NPP is the way to go and I see no reason to ever use deca unless you plan on running half year cycles. nandrolone still has metabolites however so give yourself plenty of time off before pct starts. I recommend doing a 16 weeker and using npp for the first eight weeks.