Jblake said:
Something about this tells me you've somehow aquired a bottle of deca and you're trying to stretch and somehow construct a cycle around it. If that's all you have for a cycle, save up some more cash and get some more. Spend the mean time researching. I'm certain you will respond that you've researched a'plenty, but what you've layed out here as a cycle and your other responses show differently.
Pheraplex will support sex drive, however, running deca like that is a waste. Not enough deca and not enough time on the stuff. If you think you became this aggressive from one shot of test prop.... you're showing your ignorance. This is the most ludicrous thing I've seen in a while.
By the way, your chimpanzee comment got me to thinkin. Different animals respond to specific hormones differently than a human would respond to the same hormone, sometimes radically so. This is why mice and rat studies aren't always applicable to humans. Chimpanzees are similar to Homo sapiens, I'll grant you that, however, chimpanzees differ from humans in their amount of restraint, and the absence of the concept or morality. They also have a completely different social structure. If you're on test, you may pop a boner going through the checkout line because of the hot cashier but you won't jump across the counter and nail her or whip it out and pound it for a while. A male chimpanzee would. Ask any zookeeper.
Another thing... Pheraplex is structurally very similar to test and has many of the same actions. It's androgenic, supports sex drive and yes... it could have the propensity to make one aggressive! If you've ever experienced the "aggression" one gets from a cycle, even a big one with tren, you wouldn't have this concern. Newb.
you make several good points. however, i did not just get my hands on a bottle of deca and build a cycle around it. i have run a cycle of PP before with great success and you guys are all correct, when it comes to the real ****, i know ****. but i did know that test is strongly suggested and i also knew that pp is structurally similar. i figured it could be a substitute of sorts if i kept the deca dosage low enough. why keep it low and for such a short period of time? because its bad for you, because if i blow up more than i already am (5'9", 230, approx. 15-17% bf), people are gonna stop buying the bullshit excuses i have been throwing out for a long time.
i had great results with PP, but it made me piss needles no matter how much water, milk thistle, etc. i took in. i figured i could stack it with an injectable (but def. not ignoring the need for ancillaries) and that I could maybe lower my PP dosage and get the same results.
i know which site i'm on, and its not bb.com, and i know the general feelings towards the whole designer steroid line of products. but u guys are gettin pretty rough when i am not proclaiming to know as much as you guys are presuming.
first, i would never tell rick about a cycle (although im sure he will notice if it goes well). its unprofessional. second, the research i do involves discovery of evidence, the way evidence is collected, and things that do nothing to inform me about steroids. of course i pick up some **** here and there, but its all technical to the pt where a chemist must be deposed in basically every case.
also, i started this thread to get advice, not debate the existence of roid rage. you made air tight arguments except regarding what i wrote about studies done on animals with test. by saying that chimps do something, chimps are diff, ergo we dont do it since we're chimps. also, in terms of diff species reacting diff to the same chemicals or hormones, that has everything to do with the fact that they have diff protein compositions. if we knew that 15 years ago, they would have realized that just bc saccharin causes cancer in lab rats, does not mean it is a carcinogen in humans because we do not share a specific type of protein.
all i wanted was ur guys opinion on if it was possible, and if it wasnt possible, what would be the lowest dose of test i could get away with and what kind of test should i stack it with. instead, i got the all-too-common reaction of a bunch of my fellow meatheads jumpin on my fuckin dick.
this is getting out of hand. we all got something in common in here. i have a lot of respect for the knowledge almost all u guys have gained and i gotta bow down to the experience of others in light of the fact that i have none.
BUT
if i dont know what im getting myself into, suggest something, but if ur gonna tell me how ridiculous it is that i need help, or that i am making up the fact that i work for rick (albeit far down on the ladder), or that i should send my girl ur way when my dick falls off,
well, then u guys can go **** urselves.
i appreciate the advice given by c -los (the PP cycle u refer to was good, i meant to write one SD and one PP cycle but i was in class and only half paying attention).
hamper19, thanks for your advice as well. oh, and in a 1999 Arizona murder case, the defendant got a reduced sentence because he was able to prove the existence of roid rage, and that he was on steroids while he committed murder. thats a deathblow to the prosecutor, but it would have been impossible to refute such a commonsensical and scientifically proven conclusion. maybe ill post the citation to the case but at this pt, i think ur all out of ur mind or you have juiced to the pt where yes, in your case it doesnt give u roid rage. as for the post questioning my mental health, im fine, thanks for asking, now think about the fact that your questioning someone's sanity on a website that helps every single member (myself included) take years off their life.
