Deca dick?

[jtbull]

Ok heard of it. Never ran deca or any 19 nor. I am on trt and have done two test only cycles so far and one test/eq cycle.

I do not think we are suppposed to mention sources, but its a well known source and is a npp/deca blend roughly 150mg of each per ml. I was figuring 2 shots per week for a total of 300mg or maybe .5ml every 3 days which wuld be closer to 450 per week.

I am just curious of how deca dick has affected people? i mean is it a thing were you take deca you get deca dick? I will be on at least 500mg of test more likely 600.

Hope that is enough info. Just curious of the deca dick aspect here. Now I also will likely kickstart with either 30mg of dianabol for 33 days or 22mg of lgd (sarm) I have also heard of people starting with an oral then doing a finisher. This will be my second mixed cycle and first oral.

 

[Mathb33]

Deca dick is 2 things : 1) highly user dependent and genetic.. and 2) will happen if your hormones get out of wack. To me... 90% of the time it’ll happen If you’re sadly genetically predisposed to it and there’s only one way to know... try it. I had my estrogen and prolactin way out of range before on deca and or npp and never had an issue with erection... only slightly delayed time it took to come.

 

[Whisky]

Deca dick is 2 things : 1) highly user dependent and genetic.. and 2) will happen if your hormones get out of wack. To me... 90% of the time it’ll happen If you’re sadly genetically predisposed to it and there’s only one way to know... try it. I had my estrogen and prolactin way out of range before on deca and or npp and never had an issue with erection... only slightly delayed time it took to come.

yep, highly user dependent is the key here.

some guys will get it with one test:deca ratio and not with a different one (heard everything from test lower than deca to test twice as high to avoid it).

personally I normally run test and deca 1:1 and never had an issue but generally I don’t have any Ed issues anyway. Even time to cum doesn’t seem to be affected.

obviously with 19 nors many people will use low dose caber to control prolactin (only if required - caber shouldn’t be overused over many years - look into it). Likewise estrogen plays a role so ai useage has to be considered

my point is, and I agree with mathb, that there are s a load of variables and you’ll only really know by trying, i can tell you I don’t get it but you don’t know what caber and asin I’m using that might be affecting that for example.

another one you see people mention is that NPP (shorter ester nandrolone) doesn’t cause as many people issues

 

[BBiceps]

Boys above is spot on but if you’re worried add some Mast or Proviron or both, that’s what I would do.

 

[G34RS]

Since deca takes a while to build in your system, it’s side effects can creep up on you. I’ve found as long as I adjust my AI as it builds up, I’m good to go. With NPP you can find out pretty quickly what you’ll need to take for the whole cycle since it acts so fast, but then you start to feel a bit like a pin cushion. I’d recommend aromasin over adex since it can be adjusted very quickly. The margin of error with adex can make it a bit frustrating to take. I feel like it takes me at least week or two with adex to figure out if it’s a proper dosage, whereas aromasin I can pin down in a couple days. I’ve also always kept my test equal to or greater than deca.

 

[Dblock]

Had Deca issues 20 years ago. Ran high Deca moderate dose of T and it did as was mentioned “creep up” on me. All are different but my experience was full erections but unable to “finish“. Didn’t matter, the hottest girl doing the nastiest things…..for hours and you can NOT finish. It is miserable so I dialed things down let the Deca clear and everything was normal pretty quickly. Just be aware of the potential

 

[rxrefill]

I get Decca dick on low doses, and become hyper sexual on tren. Really person dependent. I'd start w npp.

 

[jtbull]

Deca dick is 2 things : 1) highly user dependent and genetic.. and 2) will happen if your hormones get out of wack. To me... 90% of the time it’ll happen If you’re sadly genetically predisposed to it and there’s only one way to know... try it. I had my estrogen and prolactin way out of range before on deca and or npp and never had an issue with erection... only slightly delayed time it took to come.

thanks man. Got a "friend" coming to visit mid early december and will be starting next cycle ina couple weeks. I think this run I will go with eq again. Funny thing it already takes me a long time to cum so i can only imagine what this crap might do. And that delayed ejaculation was even before steroids. I can only imagine if I actually tried to "Think about baseball"


Any truth to the dosage issue like under 300mg a week should not be an issue with 600 mg test?

 

[G34RS]

thanks man. Got a "friend" coming to visit mid early december and will be starting next cycle ina couple weeks. I think this run I will go with eq again. Funny thing it already takes me a long time to cum so i can only imagine what this crap might do. And that delayed ejaculation was even before steroids. I can only imagine if I actually tried to "Think about baseball"


Any truth to the dosage issue like under 300mg a week should not be an issue with 600 mg test?

Any dosage can be an issue, but a lot of people anecdotally do better with test higher than deca. It’s kind of an old rule of thumb to keep test higher than deca, often with a 2:1 ratio, but it’s not going to cover everyone, and it’s not fool proof. Many people even do cycles with only a TRT dose of test while using deca at higher doses and do really well.

 

[MadStax]

For me the magic daily formula is 0.2ml 250mg Test E with 0.1ml 200mg Nand E. I also take 100mg P5P every morning. I have no issues with this as long as I keep my estrogen within range.

 

[Alchemist11]

Just take some Proviron with your cycle and you'll be fine. From my understanding, Deca Dick comes from lack of DHT in stack

 

[Whisky]

Funny you should mention proviron, Steve on MPMD was recently saying that for about 2 weeks it sky rockets libido but then crushes shbg and tanks libido after that

I find 5-10 cialis is the best option but then I just don’t have issues on deca.

think I commented above that it’s so individual your just gonna have to try it and see - maybe start early and smash a couple of dirty randoms just to test where you are at and adjust as needed?

 

[Alchemist11]

Funny you should mention proviron, Steve on MPMD was recently saying that for about 2 weeks it sky rockets libido but then crushes shbg and tanks libido after that

I think that goes if you go too high with it, keeping it at 25-50mg ED, I think it doesn't downregulates sex drive and libido, just keep it stable and 'normal'

 

[jtbull]

Since someone mentioned it whats a "good range" of esttrogen or estraidal on cycle? I know mine has been low at times. So i have done trt without any armidex. Seems .5 2x a week has been pretty good. My guess is i should take 1mg 2 times a week

 

[MadStax]

Since someone mentioned it whats a "good range" of esttrogen or estraidal on cycle? I know mine has been low at times. So i have done trt without any armidex. Seems .5 2x a week has been pretty good. My guess is i should take 1mg 2 times a week

This is something you really have to feel out for yourself. Most seem to like it near or slightly over the high side of the "normal" range.

 

[Alchemist11]

Since someone mentioned it whats a "good range" of esttrogen or estraidal on cycle? I know mine has been low at times. So i have done trt without any armidex. Seems .5 2x a week has been pretty good. My guess is i should take 1mg 2 times a week

It's very individual thing... Estrogen is so much more important than people think... If higher estrogen doesn't bother you (gyno or high water retention or acne), let it be...

 

[Whisky]

It's very individual thing... Estrogen is so much more important than people think... If higher estrogen doesn't bother you (gyno or high water retention or acne), let it be...

yeah this. Mine sits between 60 and 75 ish on a blast depending what compounds I’m using. I use a very low amount of asin once a week as over that amount I start to get the first signs of gyno

Lots of guys panic if it’s over 30 or so (very normal in range level) never understood why (unless you are very gyno prone which will be pretty rare at that level anyway)

 

[jtbull]

I know this is probably a dumb question but what is wore on a cycle too high estrogen or too low?

I planned on runnning eq so not an issue but might have to run an npp/deca blend hence my concern.

 

[jtbull]

Or a better question since one guy said he goes to like 60 75 on estrogen is what number is usually like PANIC? If estrogen is at?

 

[Alchemist11]

I know this is probably a dumb question but what is wore on a cycle too high estrogen or too low?

I planned on runnning eq so not an issue but might have to run an npp/deca blend hence my concern.

It can be many things. A lot of water retention, moonface, high blood preassure, gyno, low libido, high libido, acne, moodyness, a lot of things and it's very individual.