Debating TRT Questions

[bubble boy]

I'm 56 and debating getting on TRT. Not Really due to "necessity" but more to help me in the gym lose a little fat, gain a little muscle and up my energy and sex drive. I would be getting initial blood work, but ultimately not going through my doctor for the TRT but through someone I know that is well versed in the body building
:supplement" He is suggesting 200 2x week. My questions are one what are your thoughts, but also if I have hereditary high cholesterol would TRT be an issue? Also I have read that it could effect your prostate, anyone had or heard of those issues? I want to be sfe but would love a boost.

 

[bad rad]

I'd start with blood work and go through a doctor. Your friend is suggesting a cycle, not TRT.

1) Start with lower dosing, ie, 50-70mg 2x weekly. I'd prefer 10mg/daily with insulin syringes but that's a solid commitment.
2) Low T and high Estrogens negatively affect the prostate. TRT doesn't raise cancer risk unless estrogen runs rampant. Multiple studies confirm this.
3) Get constant blood work and examine your diet. High cholesterol can be in response to systemic inflammation. Some foods cause this.
4) I'd add DHEA at 25-50mg 2x daily too. It helps with energy, glucose metabolism, and at your age it's likely low.

 

[Carnivorecon]

I second this^^^
And if you're friend is suggesting 400mg /wk as a cycle then it's a good start but if he's saying to do that long term do not listen to anything he has to say

 

[thebigt]

I second this^^^
And if you're friend is suggesting 400mg /wk as a cycle then it's a good start but if he's saying to do that long term do not listen to anything he has to say

absolutely....200mg twice a week is not trt.

 

[bubble boy]

Thank you for the advice. I may have misspoke or misunderstood him, he suggested 2 x per week but 200-250 total for the week. 100 to 125 per injection. I’d be ok breaking that out to more days as you mention if there is advantage.
He did also mention taking something to keep estrogen in check.

 

[thebigt]

Thank you for the advice. I may have misspoke or misunderstood him, he suggested 2 x per week but 200-250 total for the week. 100 to 125 per injection. I’d be ok breaking that out to more days as you mention if there is advantage.
He did also mention taking something to keep estrogen in check.

always good to have a AI on hand, at that dose some need it some don't...there are distinctive signs that let you know if needed, but when starting trt blood draws are frequent.

 

[bubble boy]

always good to have a AI on hand, at that dose some need it some don't...there are distinctive signs that let you know if needed, but when starting trt blood draws are frequent.

So by frequent would that be every 6 months or what is suggested?
Also are there specifics that I should be asking to be checked?
Thank you again!

 

[thebigt]

So by frequent would that be every 6 months or what is suggested?
Also are there specifics that I should be asking to be checked?
Thank you again!

google is your friend...unfortunately some doctors are not up to date on trt, there are some important questions you need to ask. write your questions down in advance of doctors appointment.

yes there are specifics you should be asking, do some research in advance!!!

 

[bubble boy]

google is your friend...unfortunately some doctors are not up to date on trt, there are some important questions you need to ask. write your questions down in advance of doctors appointment.

yes there are specifics you should be asking, do some research in advance!!!

Agreed, thanks again!

 

[TheBigJS]

Why don't you just be honest? What you're asking for really is advice on how to cruise at or near super-physiological testosterone levels.

There's nothing wrong with that, just be clear what your doing, if you've not got a doctors prescription for it then it's not TRT.

 

[bubble boy]

google is your friend...unfortunately some doctors are not up to date on trt, there are s

Why don't you just be honest? What you're asking for really is advice on how to cruise at or near super-physiological testosterone levels.

There's nothing wrong with that, just be clear what your doing, if you've not got a doctors prescription for it then it's not TRT.

Well, as I stated in my original post and "being honest"......It's not a necessity and I explained what I was after.
Maybe not TRT, just looking for a little help as I age. And My doctor would be monitoring me via blood draws

 

[thebigt]

blood draws are essential when using hormonals, even at trt level.

 

[Mathb33]

I’ll be on the devil side here and simply say that every single male over 50 years old should be on trt. Why should we accept that our hormones are slowly but surely shutting down when there is an alternative to it? It seems so silly to me I don’t get it

 

[thebigt]

I’ll be on the devil side here and simply say that every single male over 50 years old should be on trt. Why should we accept that our hormones are slowly but surely shutting down when there is an alternative to it? It seems so silly to me I don’t get it

probably every member of AM over 50 is on trt….saying that, I think only a small percentage of males over 50 in general are on trt, but the numbers are increasing quickly.

 

[hajisan]

I’ll be on the devil side here and simply say that every single male over 50 years old should be on trt. Why should we accept that our hormones are slowly but surely shutting down when there is an alternative to it? It seems so silly to me I don’t get it

No, not unless you are symptomatic. Why put people on a lifelong med if they don’t need it? Btw - I’m over 50 and on TRT.

 

[TheBigJS]

I’ll be on the devil side here and simply say that every single male over 50 years old should be on trt. Why should we accept that our hormones are slowly but surely shutting down when there is an alternative to it? It seems so silly to me I don’t get it

No, not unless you are symptomatic. Why put people on a lifelong med if they don’t need it? Btw - I’m over 50 and on TRT.

I think what Mathb33 is suggesting is that at some point in our 50s or there abouts we would all benefit from TRT, so we should all be on it.

 

[Mathb33]

No, not unless you are symptomatic. Why put people on a lifelong med if they don’t need it? Btw - I’m over 50 and on TRT.

?? Symptomatic or not you’re going to see your TT drop to **** as you age. Why wouldn’t someone with 350 total test have the right to be In the optimal range and feel twice as good?

 

[hajisan]

?? Symptomatic or not you’re going to see your TT drop to **** as you age. Why wouldn’t someone with 350 total test have the right to be In the optimal range and feel twice as good?

Because you are ASSUMING they would feel twice as good. There are literally people in the 300s who feel great (I’m not one of them, but that’s me).

 

[Mathb33]

Because you are ASSUMING they would feel twice as good. There are literally people in the 300s who feel great (I’m not one of them, but that’s me).

A habit. A habit is strong. My closest friend saw his levels go from 700iSh to 250 in about 2 years. He felt fine. Didn’t want to go on trt why would he? He was just a little tired. Who isn’t right? Until he actually went on trt and realized he was just used to feeling shitty and slowly but surely forgot how is it to actually feel great. Nobody, NOBODY will feel super good and be super energized on 200-300 TT. You might be living your life just fine sure. That doesn’t mean you’re 100%.

 

[hajisan]

A habit. A habit is strong. My closest friend saw his levels go from 700iSh to 250 in about 2 years. He felt fine. Didn’t want to go on trt why would he? He was just a little tired. Who isn’t right? Until he actually went on trt and realized he was just used to feeling shitty and slowly but surely forgot how is it to actually feel great. Nobody, NOBODY will feel super good and be super energized on 200-300 TT. You might be living your life just fine sure. That doesn’t mean you’re 100%.

Ok - I will agree with you on this from an anecdotal perspective (but that’s not science). I didn’t realize I was feeling depressed until I switched from gel to injection (and my levels went up). But we have to look at risk/reward across all populations. That my friend is science.

 

[bad rad]

There are two versions of living in regards to TRT, optimal health or just not dying slower. The optimal part is a range based on specific needs of individual bodies but in the end, once "super tuned", everyone will feel better.

 

[veloforce]

i just turned 50 and intrigued by TRT. any trt brand recommended over others? sorry for newbie questions.

 

[justhere4comm]

i just turned 50 and intrigued by TRT. any trt brand recommended over others? sorry for newbie questions.

Brand?
Did you mean what sort of Testosterone?
You'll want bloods run first, then a conversation with a doctor that will prescribe.

Along with the TRT you'll want to look into some ancillaries.
COQ10
Vitamin K2
Vitamin D3
etc.

TRT will increase your RBC and Hematocrit.
There are a few protocols:

Injection
SubQ bi-weekly injections
Iintramuscular Injections

Other
Cream
Pellets

That is, if you fall in 'range' for TRT to be prescribed.
You may have other areas lacking such as Thyroid.
Hence the blood tests.

 

[jtbull]

Yeah buddy that is not trt that is a cycle. 400mg is actually not a bad first cycle. It never hurts to check with your doctor or see if you can find a urologist in your area as they deal with some stuff. Tell them you can get a boner but hard time ejaculating and wear you and the wife out. This was true with me when we were going through trt and that is how i started with him.

I did not do test at first because we were trying to have a child and that did not happen so not i am on trt been on over a year. He put me on 200 mg a every 10 days for the first 6 months and just agreed to go to 200mg every 7 days. I am supposed to see him later this month. Also many will have you taking dex. I would tell you dont unless you need it and you find that out with the blood work. ON trt i am not taking any and when i get blood work i will know how that has gone. Even 1mg 2 x a week has crashed mine to like 14 when i think it needs to be mid 20s to 40s. Anyone that knows please let me know. When i took three a week or every day like prescribed it was unreadable or under 7.

There is lots of good info here. You probably will end up doing what i do which is blast and cruise. The blast are your cycles. I do 2 15 week cycles a year and then your cruise is the rest of the time you do a trt dose. Bascially your cruise is like PCT since you dont do that on TRT.. Its for life. The only thing that might change are the dosages and my doc has a really dizz c*nt for a Physicians assistant. She is like when prescribing syringes "Oh no he might shoot an extra shot of test) as they like to give them to me 12 ata a time. Wel they cost over $1 each that way. If they write the scripts for 100 i would pay less than 30 cents each. I have found ordering them to be better and cheaper. IF you get on it and have questions i would not mind anwering what i can and i am sure most other guys would not. I have had guys help me with a variety of things here from mixing compounds for a blast in the same syringe to a guy from overseas actually give me a good idea for a cycle, but it includes tren so i want to do at least two more cycles before i use and tren.

IF you blast remember this test only at least one cycle 400-600mg maybe 10-12 weeks. NO you do not need an oral kicker. Just test. After that you start experimenting.

 

[Captain_Action]

I’m on prescribed TRT
Same issues
100mg Test E @ 50mg 2x/wk was first dose
Now 125mg
Things are sorting out
All but ED & libido.....

 

[thebigt]

I’m on prescribed TRT
Same issues
100mg Test E @ 50mg 2x/wk was first dose
Now 125mg
Things are sorting out
All but ED & libido.....

libido should be much improved at 125mg per week. as far as ED I would not seek 'extra' test for that purpose if bloods all look good...you would be surprised how many guys are prescribed BOTH trt and ED drugs like Viagra.