Debating my Next Cycle

warfront1

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Hey everyone, been lurking here for a while. And have retained tons of information.

Anyway, I recently ran a haloplex cycle, and oh boy..... It was the bomb... I put on like 15 pounds super lean, dropped some BF, and
over all nice gains. Zero negative side effects. The positives of the PH were extremely present though!

So here is my question, for my next cycle should I just run Haloplex again?
I mean it was so successful for me, I sort of find myself saying.... Why not just do the same cycle again?
Input? Suggestions on other PH? compounds etc.?

My cycle for anyone interested.
Halo-Plex for 6 weeks: 50/75/75/75/75/75
Using Cycle Assist 8 caps a day dosing 4 hours apart from Halo

PCT:
CEL PCT Assist for 4 weeks: 4 caps a day
Nolvadex for 4 weeks: 20/20/10/10
SNS DAA for 4 weeks: 4 caps a day
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Could try Epi if you liked the gains from Halo-Plex...some good run at:

Epi:
30/40/40/40/50/50

PCT:
Clomid
100/50/25/25
Erase:
0/0/3/3/2/1
DAA:
3/3/3/3/3/3

PCT and Support supps, well you are meant to know those, but just get something for liver, back pumps, blood pressure and some people complain about joints so extra fish oil and good old cissus. Bulking on epi can be quite lean and yield 15+lbs
 
Celorza said:
Could try Epi if you liked the gains from Halo-Plex...some good run at:

Epi:
30/40/40/40/50/50

PCT:
Clomid
100/50/25/25
Erase:
0/0/3/3/2/1
DAA:
3/3/3/3/3/3

PCT and Support supps, well you are meant to know those, but just get something for liver, back pumps, blood pressure and some people complain about joints so extra fish oil and good old cissus. Bulking on epi can be quite lean and yield 15+lbs
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This is flawless, and epi ftw.
 
May some tren with that epi. Idk but 15lbs on hdrol is pretty good
 
csa2179 said:
May some tren with that epi. Idk but 15lbs on hdrol is pretty good
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Doesn't halo plex have something else too? Theres so many halo clones Idk the names of the ones who add sh1t on em anymore hahaha.

And yes Trenazone would be ideal too.
 
Back of bottle for the curious folk! (attached)
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I see alot of people are recommending epi (not very familiar first off).
I did a tad bit of research, and have seen some horror stories of acne and gains as little as 4 lbs.

Another thing, if I was getting 15 lbs gains on haloplex, and epi is also 15 lbs gains.. Why should I try epi?

I guess the question I'm asking is: Why epi over haloplex?
 
warfront1 said:
Back of bottle for the curious folk! (attached)
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. I see alot of people are recommending epi (not very familiar first off).
I did a tad bit of research, and have seen some horror stories of acne and gains as little as 4 lbs.

Another thing, if I was getting 15 lbs gains on haloplex, and epi is also 15 lbs gains.. Why should I try epi?

I guess the question I'm asking is: Why epi over haloplex?
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Because thats the maximum Halo could give...in the case of epi, on a succesful bulk is not abnormal to get 30lbs and keep at least 20lbs of it...it gives more strength and it keeps you leaner...but just saying for curious folks out there who underestimate epi.

If you wanna go all macho guy

SD:
20/30/30/30

Survive that and there you go :)

if not, and if you are smart:

SD:
10/10/10/10/10/10
 
Celorza said:
Because thats the maximum Halo could give...in the case of epi, on a succesful bulk is not abnormal to get 30lbs and keep at least 20lbs of it...it gives more strength and it keeps you leaner...but just saying for curious folks out there who underestimate epi.

If you wanna go all macho guy

SD:
20/30/30/30

Survive that and there you go :)

if not, and if you are smart:

SD:
10/10/10/10/10/10
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Haha super sd cycle. Survive is the right term, airborne is the only one I know who can dose like that with no sides. I'm going 10/20/20/30, had to lower it, willing to bump side permitting.

Epi is an active roid, hdrol is a ph to tbol. I have seen people do amazing things with epi/tren combo. Gain like crazy and lean out, shredded to the bone all in one cycle. I would really live to try it some day.
 
Throw some test in there ;) but seriously lol. I haven't taken epi before but a few friends have and loved it. I'm sure you'll have a great cycle.
 
csa2179 said:
Haha super sd cycle. Survive is the right term, airborne is the only one I know who can dose like that with no sides. I'm going 10/20/20/30, had to lower it, willing to bump side permitting.

Epi is an active roid, hdrol is a ph to tbol. I have seen people do amazing things with epi/tren combo. Gain like crazy and lean out, shredded to the bone all in one cycle. I would really live to try it some day.
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Hdrol actively binds to the ar. No conversion req'd. Its an active steroid as well.

Op whats your goal? Max weight and strength gains or cut lean mass? Can you acquire real gear?
 
superbeast668 said:
Hdrol actively binds to the ar. No conversion req'd. Its an active steroid as well.

Op whats your goal? Max weight and strength gains or cut lean mass? Can you acquire real gear?
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My primary goal is to put on muscle, that is easy to hold onto after the cycle. The added strength gains are definitely nice, but I guess you could say my goal is to put on as much muscle mass that can be retained.

I'm hesitant to answer your question, because the hdrol blew me up and was extremely lean, as I mentioned I put on 15 pounds. The muscle put on was super defined, and it looked/felt fantastic. I also dropped a bit of the weight (most likely water) after the cycle though. Overall, I would say the Hdrol cycle got my "feet wet", so to speak with steroids, and I loved every second of it.

The 15 lbs was obtained with an extremely strict clean bulk diet... Which has me wondering what could be done, if i stepped the bulk up a bit while on the cycle.

Also unfortunately, I can't obtain "real gear"

powerclean1 said:
it's ur choice
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Yes, I'm aware that it is my choice. The reason of this post was to get some suggestions from hopefully some more experienced users. Based on the suggestions, I can thoroughly research it, then make the proper decision for my next cycle for me.
 
warfront1 said:
My primary goal is to put on muscle, that is easy to hold onto after the cycle. The added strength gains are definitely nice, but I guess you could say my goal is to put on as much muscle mass that can be retained.

I'm hesitant to answer your question, because the hdrol blew me up and was extremely lean, as I mentioned I put on 15 pounds. The muscle put on was super defined, and it looked/felt fantastic. I also dropped a bit of the weight (most likely water) after the cycle though. Overall, I would say the Hdrol cycle got my "feet wet", so to speak with steroids, and I loved every second of it.

The 15 lbs was obtained with an extremely strict clean bulk diet... Which has me wondering what could be done, if i stepped the bulk up a bit while on the cycle.

Also unfortunately, I can't obtain "real gear"

Yes, I'm aware that it is my choice. The reason of this post was to get some suggestions from hopefully some more experienced users. Based on the suggestions, I can thoroughly research it, then make the proper decision for my next cycle for me.
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So you want lean gains. Check out epi and stack it with halo or my favorite ph stack is halo and sd. I recomped 3% body fat and put on 7lbs total weight. Im 2.5 weeks deep into pct and still crushing huge weight and look big.
 
superbeast668 said:
So you want lean gains. Check out epi and stack it with halo or my favorite ph stack is halo and sd. I recomped 3% body fat and put on 7lbs total weight. Im 2.5 weeks deep into pct and still crushing huge weight and look big.
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Actually yeah that would b pretty sweet.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Actually yeah that would b pretty sweet.
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Ditto, it has my Steakadol seal of approval, however I would like to see what 10mg SD for 6 weeks plus a maximum of epi at 40mg would yield on an all out bulk...30lbs...? Haha
 
Celorza said:
Ditto, it has my Steakadol seal of approval, however I would like to see what 10mg SD for 6 weeks plus a maximum of epi at 40mg would yield on an all out bulk...30lbs...? Haha
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Lol that's very possible.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Lol that's very possible.
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Any guinea pigs? I could help fund that and sketch the diet for it completely just for the heck of seeing something like that pan out for future reference for myself :p
 
Celorza said:
Any guinea pigs? I could help fund that and sketch the diet for it completely just for the heck of seeing something like that pan out for future reference for myself :p
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You would suggest something like this on the day I finish the epi part of my cycle lol. Would love to run it...perhaps next time. Although I always plan to keep some sort of test base, so it wouldn't be quite as pure as you may like.
 
foland said:
Isnt halo a methyl? Meaning it would be bad for your liver to stack the 2?
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Hence the lower 10mg dosage of SD, and the "no more than 40mg max" of epi.
 
Celorza said:
Any guinea pigs? I could help fund that and sketch the diet for it completely just for the heck of seeing something like that pan out for future reference for myself :p
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Hm, i may look into this cycle. You would suggest this as one of the best oral mass gainers? How do you think water retention would be? Should i take an AI during cycle?
 
He actually doesn't know. You see, that's where the term "guinea pig" comes into play...
 
If you want the most sweet and lovely cycle ever and want to beat your previous one... then run that halodrol wich you know it works and add some stano and a test base like 1-androsterone or andromass, or some other test base.... there you have an awesome stack wich consist in a mass builder, a test base and a dht base!... no need more and you gotta love that! :D
 
Which do you guys think is better to stack with 10mg of sdrol a day? epi or hdrol? I took epi(havoc) 4 years ago, dont really remember the results, but did get some comments. Backpumps seemed like the only side.

I'm looking for as much muscle possible, with the least bloat, and if it helped lower BF thats a plus too.
 
foland said:
Which do you guys think is better to stack with 10mg of sdrol a day? epi or hdrol? I took epi(havoc) 4 years ago, dont really remember the results, but did get some comments. Backpumps seemed like the only side.

I'm looking for as much muscle possible, with the least bloat, and if it helped lower BF thats a plus too.
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Epi all day bro.
 
From everything I read Test E will just blow you up.. are the gains as lean?

Basically what will be the differences between a 500mg Testosterone Enathate (250 Monday, 250 thursday), and my previous cycle.

I already know the Test E is better for the liver, and the results are more sustainable. There is alot of information about the two different steroids, but not alot of information when talking about comparing the two. I'm not sure if the 500mg a week is more/less intense than my last cycle. Not trying to start a whole oral vs injectibles argument btw lol.

*I will be posting my full proposed cycle for review upon making my final decision.

Arimidex(adex)
 
warfront1 said:
From everything I read Test E will just blow you up.. are the gains as lean?

Basically what will be the differences between a 500mg Testosterone Enathate (250 Monday, 250 thursday), and my previous cycle.

I already know the Test E is better for the liver, and the results are more sustainable. There is alot of information about the two different steroids, but not alot of information when talking about comparing the two. I'm not sure if the 500mg a week is more/less intense than my last cycle. Not trying to start a whole oral vs injectibles argument btw lol.

*I will be posting my full proposed cycle for review upon making my final decision.

Arimidex(adex)
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Gains could b 15-20 pounds but with some bloat unless u negate it with AI use.
 
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