Dbol or no?? (Estrogen control)

pureburl

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I'm nearing the end of my current cycle and starting to piece together my next cycle. I have developed some gyno from the test (500mg/week). I was running aromisin 12.5 eod and then moved to 25mg one day then 12.5 the next dosing everyday. It seemed like it could've been too much so I went to 25mg eod. It hasn't seemed to get worse but it's there nonetheless. My question is would running dbol next cycle be out of the question or could I effectively control the estrogen conversion with adex dosed fairly high (1mg eod or even every day)?
 
hmm, seems like you're estro sensitive. It's up to you but im assuming you're going to be running test along with dbol as a kickstart? if that is the case then its going to be harder to control estrogen since you'll be running 2 wet compounds. it all depends on the individual. Since I'm a leaner guy and estro sensitive as well I tend to stay away from too many wet compounds. have you considered instead running a dry compound instead along with test? I suppose if you dosed adex or exem high enough you would be ok. But there is a chance you can crash your estrogen too much. Which isn't a good thing either.
 
Mitch_310 said:
hmm, seems like you're estro sensitive. It's up to you but im assuming you're going to be running test along with dbol as a kickstart? if that is the case then its going to be harder to control estrogen since you'll be running 2 wet compounds. it all depends on the individual. Since I'm a leaner guy and estro sensitive as well I tend to stay away from too many wet compounds. have you considered instead running a dry compound instead along with test? I suppose if you dosed adex or exem high enough you would be ok. But there is a chance you can crash your estrogen too much. Which isn't a good thing either.
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Yeah that was going to be the plan. Test and dbol kickstart. I was gonna run it 25mg everyday (source has 25mg caps which is kinda dumb) but I just don't want to worsen the gyno. I'm open to dry compounds, I was just planning on a big bulk. What's weird is I don't seem to be having other high estrogen sides such as water retention, but I'm obviously gyno prone
 
I could kickstart with sdrol or anadrol since I'm gonna be using deca as well it could be a nice combo but there's still the prolactin worry. I'll be taking caber. I'm actually running sd right now as a finisher
 
If I were you, I'd stay away from the Dbol at the moment, Bro (considering).
 
What do y'all think would be some good kickstart alternatives? Do you think anadrol would be a little safer in terms of the gyno issue while using caber and aromasin?
 
pureburl said:
What do y'all think would be some good kickstart alternatives? Do you think anadrol would be a little safer in terms of the gyno issue while using caber and aromasin?
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Sure but toxic as hell. Dbol is like the worst you can take to prevent gyno.
 
Chados said:
Sure but toxic as hell. Dbol is like the worst you can take to prevent gyno.
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Yeah it doesn't seem like I should go with dbol. What are some bulking kickstart alternatives that are a little safer for the gyno prone in your opinion?
 
pureburl said:
Yeah it doesn't seem like I should go with dbol. What are some bulking kickstart alternatives that are a little safer for the gyno prone in your opinion?
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Well if we count old school aas you can kickstart anything. Really anything that doesn't convert to estro. Problem being that these are normally the ones that will add size. Winstrol is one hell of a compound and you can definitely add size and it will be clean size.
 
Chados said:
Well if we count old school aas you can kickstart anything. Really anything that doesn't convert to estro. Problem being that these are normally the ones that will add size. Winstrol is one hell of a compound and you can definitely add size and it will be clean size.
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That's true, but I'm really talking about a bulking kickstart, but like you said the dry compounds aren't as great as the wet ones for the most part. I have some tbol that I was gonna run but didn't so that's an option but it's not a big bulked. I'm considering anadrol like I said, but even though it doesn't convert it still has the estrogenic side effects and I don't want to make the existing gyno worse smh. I'm gonna try aromasin from a different source, it seems odd that I got some gyno from the exem dose I've been taking
 
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Im using Turinabol, dbols mild sister. I hate it doesn’t convert into estrogen but I could be wrong. It’s also a slower bulk but clean. I’ll let you know if I get any symptoms.
 
Debolde said:
Im using Turinabol, dbols mild sister. I hate it doesn’t convert into estrogen but I could be wrong. It’s also a slower bulk but clean. I’ll let you know if I get any symptoms.
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Here’s what I found on steroid.com

The side effects of Oral Turinabol do not include any of an estrogenic nature. This steroid does not aromatize and carries no progestin related traits making side effects like gynecomastia and excess water retention impossible. This should also greatly reduce the risk of high blood pressure as high blood pressure due to steroid use is most commonly linked to severe water retention.
 
You could also look into some of the designer stuff like msten. I get gyno flares from epistane oddly, but msten didnt seem to aggravate it and it’s relatively strong.
 
pureburl said:
That's true, but I'm really talking about a bulking kickstart, but like you said the dry compounds aren't as great as the wet ones for the most part. I have some tbol that I was gonna run but didn't so that's an option but it's not a big bulked. I'm considering anadrol like I said, but even though it doesn't convert it still has the estrogenic side effects and I don't want to make the existing gyno worse smh. I'm gonna try aromasin from a different source, it seems odd that I got some gyno from the exem dose I've been taking
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I hear you. Well, anadrol,dbol,nanodrol,superdrol are to me the best. After that no matter for what reason in using it I take winstrol.
 
I could take superdrol as a kickstart. I'm doing a kickstart finisher right now and didn't get a lot of size since it's at the end but I've had really nice strength gains. From the research I've done it sounds like anadrol might be better for size than sd
 
True, I've ran dmz 2.0, the msten and dimethyzine stack and had nice results. Just ****ed my liver but that'll be with any of the stuff I'm considering lol
 
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