Dbol only PCT

robotj

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Going to be running a dbol only cycle for 5 weeks(my first cycle).

I'm currently planning on doing a 40/40/20/20 pct of nolva but i've read about people doing 10mg ED during cycle. Is that too much or should just add some nolva mid cycle if i experience sides and leave the rest for pct?

I've been doing a lot of reading on all of the dbol only threads and most of them have dated back pretty far and have a ton of different opinions/results.
 
if ur dead set on running dbol on low dose like 10mg stack with epi at 10-20mg to help withthose bad estro sides. but then again [ppl on here will tell u 2 methyl dont make a right liver. and dbol SHOULD NEVER EVER NO MATTER THE WETHER BE RUN ALONE YOU WILL LOSE ALOT OF WEIGHT AT PCT OR AFTER. DBOL IS A JUMP START TO TEST CYCLE. IF U CAN GET DBOL THEN GET SOME TEST E AND SHOOT UP 2X AT 200MG. 400MG PER WK. CREATE A 3MONTH CYCLE. but this being ur 1st..... i dont recommend it and besides ull get some awfull stretch marks. being on a cycle is really diff then on a test booster. be carefull
 
jay21 said:
....DBOL IS A JUMP START TO TEST CYCLE. IF U CAN GET DBOL THEN GET SOME TEST E AND SHOOT UP 2X AT 200MG. 400MG PER WK. CREATE A 3MONTH CYCLE. but this being ur 1st..... i dont recommend it and besides ull get some awfull stretch marks. being on a cycle is really diff then on a test booster. be carefull
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I want to take it easy and was told that I need to experience dbol and test separately before I stack so i know how my body reacts to each individually. Made sense to me. Didn't want to jump right into dbol/test.

I realize that I will lose a ton of weight PCT+ but have also read a lot on these forums and other forums where people say they have retained 30-50%. If I can gain 8-15 and keep half that...I'd call it a decent 1st run. Health is top priority as always.

jay21 said:
how old r u?
...... this place is like a bar under 21 no service
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if you want to run dbol, i highly suggest running test.
it will prevent you from totally loosing your libido..... if you're going to anyway, and gains will be more maintainable.

however, if you're dead set on it, don't do what that guy said and stack another oral with it.

run it 40mg for 5-6 weeks.

have nolvadex on hand in case your nipples look big as hell and/or they itch or hurt. if this happens, run nolva at 20mg and immediatly lower your dose to 30mg. keep taking nolva until it goes away and then maybe a couple days after that.

but for PCT, i would suggest running clomid.

run 50mg of clomid for 4 weeks and if you have some nolva left over, run 40/40/20/20 like you were going to.

clomid, for some reason, makes your testoserone come back to normal faster than nolva. but nolva is better at keeping estrogen under control. so if you can, run both for pct.

i must warn you, you're going to loose at least 75% of your gains if not more. the gains you get from dbol is mostly water. in fact, not many orals give you good quality lean mass gains that you can keep after you run them. at least not as good as injectable compounds do.

IMO, gains are kept better with longer cycles and orals cannot be ran for that long because of liver toxicity and other side effects.

IMO, a dbol cycle is not very promicing. you'd better be ready to crash post-cycle.
 
robotj said:
I want to take it easy and was told that I need to experience dbol and test separately before I stack so i know how my body reacts to each individually. Made sense to me. Didn't want to jump right into dbol/test.

I realize that I will lose a ton of weight PCT+ but have also read a lot on these forums and other forums where people say they have retained 30-50%. If I can gain 8-15 and keep half that...I'd call it a decent 1st run. Health is top priority as always.



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not gonna happen...especially with what was proposed
 
Thanks for the feedback. Don't get me wrong...needles don't scare me and i'm not trying to stay oral only. If anything its the possible sides that come with dbol. I'd rather experience them alone without being on a full stack unsure of whats causing what.

Its nothing i'm going to rush into but when i finish my cycle ill post some results for those who are interested.
 
robotj said:
Thanks for the feedback. Don't get me wrong...needles don't scare me and i'm not trying to stay oral only. If anything its the possible sides that come with dbol. I'd rather experience them alone without being on a full stack unsure of whats causing what.

Its nothing i'm going to rush into but when i finish my cycle ill post some results for those who are interested.
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so just run test prop as a first cycle...if you wanna get big test is king and should be the foundation of a beginners cycle. if sides occur the prop ester will clear your system faster so sides won't have as much time to build up.

sure there's a risk in either way you go...so why risk it for nothing cause thats what you're going to get with dbol.
 
personally if i were you, i would kickstart dianabol for 4 weeks and pin. test does so many great things to a man's body ( seriously ). i'm assuming you're over the age of 21. it's better to pin later on but eithe way.. if you're 21 or over you can get away with a dianabol/epistane cycle. the epistane will lean you out but if it's a dianabol only.. you'll lost most of it. then again everyone's body varies. your diet comes before anything else.. and then make sure you're getting quality sleep.
 
yeah, run test alone if you want to tell what's giving you certian side effects.

to tell you the truth, testoserone doesn't usually give very many side effects so if you experience anything bad while running dbol and test, most likely, it's the dbol.
 
raginfcktard said:
so just run test prop as a first cycle...if you wanna get big test is king and should be the foundation of a beginners cycle. if sides occur the prop ester will clear your system faster so sides won't have as much time to build up.

sure there's a risk in either way you go...so why risk it for nothing cause thats what you're going to get with dbol.
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Honestly I'm going to do the dbol cycle first as planned next month because a few business trips would break up a larger 10+ week cycle. While we are on the subject(and i havent done a whole lot of research on test e), what would be a good 2nd cycle/PCT?

From what ive gathered so far...

week 1-4 30mg ED dbol
week 1-10 500mg/week test e
Armidex .25mg/ed for bloating?

Nolva 40/40/20 ED for the last 8 weeks

ibanezman08 said:
yeah, run test alone if you want to tell what's giving you certian side effects.

to tell you the truth, testoserone doesn't usually give very many side effects so if you experience anything bad while running dbol and test, most likely, it's the dbol.
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Yea that was my concern. I heard that dbol is a bit harsh.
 
robotj said:
Honestly I'm going to do the dbol cycle first as planned next month because a few business trips would break up a larger 10+ week cycle. While we are on the subject(and i havent done a whole lot of research on test e), what would be a good 2nd cycle/PCT?

From what ive gathered so far...

week 1-4 30mg ED dbol
week 1-10 500mg/week test e
Armidex .25mg/ed for bloating?

Nolva 40/40/20 ED for the last 8 weeks



Yea that was my concern. I heard that dbol is a bit harsh.
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you obviously haven't done much research on dbol either. not trying to belittle you here but no ones going to be there to hold your hand, do some more research!

as far as this "2nd" cycle it looks alright. dbol looks good. i'd go for 12 maybe longer with test e. depending on how everything is running.

adex .5mg eod

nolva 40/30/20/10 starting 2 weeks after last injection is common, assumming you use test e
 
raginfcktard said:
you obviously haven't done much research on dbol either. not trying to belittle you here but no ones going to be there to hold your hand, do some more research!

as far as this "2nd" cycle it looks alright. dbol looks good. i'd go for 12 maybe longer with test e. depending on how everything is running.

adex .5mg eod

nolva 40/30/20/10 starting 2 weeks after last injection is common, assumming you use test e
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Hey I'm not expecting my hand to be held and the research never ends. I'm far from impulsive when it comes to stuff like this.

I have done a ton of reading on here about dbol specifically and have gone through threads all the way back to '04 on this forum alone. Opinions are drastically different. I've read a lot of people who have very good things to say about it and quite a few that say the gains are completely lost PCT+.

Thats mainly why i just had to make up my mind and see how it worked with MY body, because thats the only common ground i could find...that it differs with each user.

Thanks for the feedback, its appreciated. I definitely have more reading to do.
 
Well if nothing less you'll get a feel for the strength gaining aspect of Dbol... Make sure you support through your cycle, liver pains are no fun! If you can though try to get your hands on some clomid to get your PCT on point
 
updates?

Have you started your cycle yet? I am also about to start my first cycle which is also oral dbol only. Let me know how yours is going. Good luck.
 
dbol messed up my nuts bro. and i even took PCT dbol is not the way to go especially ur first cycle and i know ur not 21 so u shouldnt even be here. take epistane and see how that does
 
Wouldnt do it. Go with Epistane if you want to stay oral, or just do Test. The saying "Test is best" holds water, no pun intended. If you're dead set on doing a Dbol only cycle, its imperative that you use an AI throughout to help keep the bloat down which is the bulk of the weightgain you get anyway.
 
I am looking for some opinions on a d-bol only cycle I have been taking. Would it be good with 20mg nolva ED for 4 weeks?

I am coming off a 30mg ED D-bol only.

Should I take anything else along with the nolva, any suggestions are appreciated.
 
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