Dbol and Prohormone Stack

Studdscruggs

Studdscruggs

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It is time gentlemen to finally get my feet wet in the AAS world. I've done a few sarms and prohormone stacks with great love. I can't thank God enough for these wonderfully made products haha. It's time to hit the big boy world though. I'm planning a stack for the future and am wondering what you guys think.

I know I know Test is best but hear me out on my stack.

Week 1-4
Dbol 30mg ED
4-AD (not to sure what brand)
Cycle support

Weeks 4-8
4AD
Cycle support

Pct :
Torem 120/90/90/60
Laxogenin?
Epicat?


1. . I know that dbol aromatizes as well as 4AD. I'm curious if I can just run arimistane 100mg as my AI or use 10mg Of nolva 1-8? Maybe overkill? I will be using torem for my pct because it is the ****. Best recovery ever.

2. What brand of 4AD should I use?

3. Should I run this cycle really for 8 weeks? Possibly 6 due to first time AAS?

4. Do I really need the 4AD? I believe I do because of keeping my lethargy effects down from dbol down and just overall well being/libido?
 
Studdscruggs said:
It is time gentlemen to finally get my feet wet in the AAS world. I've done a few sarms and prohormone stacks with great love. I can't thank God enough for these wonderfully made products haha. It's time to hit the big boy world though. I'm planning a stack for the future and am wondering what you guys think.

I know I know Test is best but hear me out on my stack.

Week 1-4
Dbol 30mg ED
4-AD (not to sure what brand)
Cycle support

Weeks 4-8
4AD
Cycle support

Pct :
Torem 120/90/90/60
Laxogenin?
Epicat?


1. . I know that dbol aromatizes as well as 4AD. I'm curious if I can just run arimistane 100mg as my AI or use 10mg Of nolva 1-8? Maybe overkill? I will be using torem for my pct because it is the ****. Best recovery ever.

2. What brand of 4AD should I use?

3. Should I run this cycle really for 8 weeks? Possibly 6 due to first time AAS?

4. Do I really need the 4AD? I believe I do because of keeping my lethargy effects down from dbol down and just overall well being/libido?
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4AD is pretty weak... This is not a "big boy" stack haha. But to answer your questions:

1) NO NO NO NO to arimistane. it's barely a passable ai for things that DONT aromatize. Also, nolva is NOT and AI, its a serm. Get exemestane or adex.

2) don't really ahve much opinion here... personally I would use something else.

3) you said you've done a few ph stacks... but are saying this is your first time using aas??? that makes no sense... what have you run? And for the dbol, id prob stay at 6 max.

4) ideally, you would use something as a base (like the AD), but if you ran 4 weeks, maybe even 6, you could prob get away without too much problem.

Overall tho, this seems like a bad stack and you don't seem to know what you're getting into.. You need to carry an ai into pct, prob should add some cortisol control (like reduce xt), and you can def throw in either or both of the natty stuff you listed.
 
booneman77 said:
4AD is pretty weak... This is not a "big boy" stack haha. But to answer your questions:

1) NO NO NO NO to arimistane. it's barely a passable ai for things that DONT aromatize. Also, nolva is NOT and AI, its a serm. Get exemestane or adex.

2) don't really ahve much opinion here... personally I would use something else.

3) you said you've done a few ph stacks... but are saying this is your first time using aas??? that makes no sense... what have you run? And for the dbol, id prob stay at 6 max.

4) ideally, you would use something as a base (like the AD), but if you ran 4 weeks, maybe even 6, you could prob get away without too much problem.

Overall tho, this seems like a bad stack and you don't seem to know what you're getting into.. You need to carry an ai into pct, prob should add some cortisol control (like reduce xt), and you can def throw in either or both of the natty stuff you listed.
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Lol I know it's no major stack! I'm just kidding around! I've done all dry compounds. I've never played with a "wet" compound such as 4AD and Dbol. I've done a good bit of research but don't know the exacts because everyone seems to do something differently every time. I've done epistane, epiandro, Ostarine, And LGD just to name a few. I have never done a I guess you can say "pharmaceutical" grade compound such as dbol.

I didn't think Arimistane would pass through. I read that it is pretty potent even at 50mg and was going to do 100mg. And the nolva, I know it's a serm but was going to use it as an AI due to its anti estrogen affects. I also read up on this as well.

I picked the 4AD because of its test base and seen this cycle done on some other forums with good results so they say but always like some confirmation.

I really didn't feel the need to throw my natty supps in the forum because those will always be in there for pct but I guess I should have. I'm going to have good Ol famous reduce XT, more than likely laxogenin, torem, and more than likely some other stuff I buy on the way.
 
booneman77 said:
4AD is pretty weak... This is not a "big boy" stack haha. But to answer your questions:

1) NO NO NO NO to arimistane. it's barely a passable ai for things that DONT aromatize. Also, nolva is NOT and AI, its a serm. Get exemestane or adex.

2) don't really ahve much opinion here... personally I would use something else.

3) you said you've done a few ph stacks... but are saying this is your first time using aas??? that makes no sense... what have you run? And for the dbol, id prob stay at 6 max.

4) ideally, you would use something as a base (like the AD), but if you ran 4 weeks, maybe even 6, you could prob get away without too much problem.

Overall tho, this seems like a bad stack and you don't seem to know what you're getting into.. You need to carry an ai into pct, prob should add some cortisol control (like reduce xt), and you can def throw in either or both of the natty stuff you listed.
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Agreed. Op, arimistane wont do anything, get a real pharma grade ai.
 
Arimistane is alright for cortisol apparently, but as they already said it sucks for estrogen. Does practically nothing in that regard. I don't have much to add on the matter of Dbol as I'm not knowledgeable on it.
 
Studdscruggs said:
Lol I know it's no major stack! I'm just kidding around! I've done all dry compounds. I've never played with a "wet" compound such as 4AD and Dbol. I've done a good bit of research but don't know the exacts because everyone seems to do something differently every time. I've done epistane, epiandro, Ostarine, And LGD just to name a few. I have never done a I guess you can say "pharmaceutical" grade compound such as dbol.

I didn't think Arimistane would pass through. I read that it is pretty potent even at 50mg and was going to do 100mg. And the nolva, I know it's a serm but was going to use it as an AI due to its anti estrogen affects. I also read up on this as well.

I picked the 4AD because of its test base and seen this cycle done on some other forums with good results so they say but always like some confirmation.

I really didn't feel the need to throw my natty supps in the forum because those will always be in there for pct but I guess I should have. I'm going to have good Ol famous reduce XT, more than likely laxogenin, torem, and more than likely some other stuff I buy on the way.
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Nolva doesn't have "anti estrogen properties"... it's in no way an ai. It works on a totally different way by blocking the receptors. Your body is still gonna have way too much estrogen from aromatization just floating around making a mess. Whatever you read was either wrong or you misinterpreted.

And fyi epistane is an active steroid. You've done a steroid. Cmon bro.
 
jathan_howe said:
Arimistane is alright for cortisol apparently, but as they already said it sucks for estrogen. Does practically nothing in that regard. I don't have much to add on the matter of Dbol as I'm not knowledgeable on it.
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I don't believe that cortisol **** tbh, just an easy way for companies to make some extra $
 
Wouldn't bother with dbol unless you run it with test tbh...You'll just gain a bunch of water retention on cycle and maintain less than you would had you ran it with test
 
booneman77 said:
Nolva doesn't have "anti estrogen properties"... it's in no way an ai. It works on a totally different way by blocking the receptors. Your body is still gonna have way too much estrogen from aromatization just floating around making a mess. Whatever you read was either wrong or you misinterpreted.

And fyi epistane is an active steroid. You've done a steroid. Cmon bro.
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Lol hey back when I took it, it was a considered a prohormone! Looks like I'll have to invest in a bad ass AI!
 
booneman77 said:
Nolva doesn't have "anti estrogen properties"... it's in no way an ai. It works on a totally different way by blocking the receptors. Your body is still gonna have way too much estrogen from aromatization just floating around making a mess. Whatever you read was either wrong or you misinterpreted.

And fyi epistane is an active steroid. You've done a steroid. Cmon bro.
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I will also go with exemestane (aromasin) at 12.5mg ED. How does that sound? I very much appreciate the advice.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Will you be using pharma grade man? I wouldn't fuk with rc grade on something that aromatizes relatively high
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What about 12.5 EOD? And yeah it's rc grade unfortunately it's the only thing I can get my hands on. Very reputable company tho and had their stuff in the past just not the AI.
 
Studdscruggs said:
What about 12.5 EOD? And yeah it's rc grade unfortunately it's the only thing I can get my hands on. Very reputable company tho and had their stuff in the past just not the AI.
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Yeah that's fine. You'll know pretty quick whether you need more or less.
 
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