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D bol -3Xs more effective?

skull

skull

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can anyone tell me what the equivalent of 375mgs of Test E per wk to Dbol might be ? I know theres an equasion to figure the value minus the ester but the write up for Dbol states it is significantly more active than its equal dose of TEST. So how many 10mg pills per day would equal 375mgs of Test E MINUS THE ESTER ?
 
If 100mg of Test E gives you 72mg after ester is removed and you do, say 300mg [3xs a hrt dose]in a week that gives you 216mg of actual test and that comes out to about 30mg pd and a man makes [high end] 11mg pd naturaly.So if you do 2-10mg Dbol pd [this amount is recomended not to shut you down] thats 140mg of D bol compared to 216 of Test E .Now how much does significantly more mean when you compare mg to mg of both?If its 3xs the amount then your talking 420mg without the ester and thats like doing over 500mg of Test E a week ?
 
I can tell you their is no sure way of knowing. Everybody reacts diffrent to diffrent gear. This is why some people gain better on dbol than anadrol although most feel anadrol is stronger. I suppose you could experiment until you find what the ratio will be for yourself but it won't be a single formula that will work for everybody.
 
well heres part of a write up I found ---It also has the effect of decreasing the steroid's affinity for sex hormone binding globulin, a protein that de-activates steroid molecules and prevents them from further reactions with the body. As a result, methandrostenolone is significantly more active than an equivalent quantity of testosterone, resulting in rapid growth of muscle tissue--Im not sure 3xs is right but its close
 
I think its trying to compare apples to oranges... your just not gonna get a good answer. Each of those has thier own "effective range". Dbol seems to be about 30mg-80mg/day, and Test E seems to be 500mg/week and up.
 
RedwolfWV said:
I think its trying to compare apples to oranges... your just not gonna get a good answer. Each of those has thier own "effective range". Dbol seems to be about 30mg-80mg/day, and Test E seems to be 500mg/week and up.
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Exactley! Any more than 50mgs of dbol, 20mgs superdrol, 15mgs m1t does nothing more in way of gains for me. Testosterone seemed to give better results everytime I upped the dose and I never hit the ceiling. I know I would of eventually but 150mgs of test supsension everyday wasn't it.
 
well after thinking about it somthing doesnt seem quite right ---the guy who first made this stuff cliams that 10mg is enough to replace a average mans natural testerone level.So a mans natural level [high end ] is 11mg per day ,so thats 77mg a week .Now theres a lot of talk about how up till about 1970s the dose that Arnold and others took was 2- 10mg pd so thats only 150mgs per week ,so either thats just fiction or theres somthing better with the way Dbol reacts in the body than with TEST .Hell you need 500mg of TEST just to get started.Or maybe theres somthing thats more effective about orals compared to inject [although hard on liver]? SO what Id like to know is what does 10mg of Dbol equal to TEST mg vs mg ?
 
There is no doubt mg for mg Dianabol is probably one of the most potent steroids oral or not. I don' t know the phrama reason for it.

I'm inclined to believe that the reported low doses of steroids from 60's and 70's athletes have been played up as a way to sort of protect their image as being 'more natural' than todays freaks. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they were piling on test at a gram plus a week, but I also have a hard time believe the 10mg a day stuff about dianabol.

How many people have you met who get any real results from a dose that little?
 
Somewhere here there is a thread about long term use of d-bol at 10mg's a day. I don't remember who posted it, but it was a good read. A search would probably turn it up.
 
so what I was trying to figure out was how much Dbol [per day]]is equal to 375mgs of Test E a week ?
 
skull said:
so what I was trying to figure out was how much Dbol [per day]]is equal to 375mgs of Test E a week ?
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youre just looking at this the wrong way. as redwolf said, apples to oranges. the two substances do not have the same direct or indirect effects. with dianabol you are dealing with a methylated oral, which impacts hepatic igf-1 release and has an instantaneous effect.

are we talking long term use of testosterone?
weight gain?
side effects?
strength gains?

i really dont know how to give you a direct comparison. i can take grams of testosterone all i wants and more or less maintain what i have, but if i throw in any type of oral the instanteous androgen increase can pack on 5-10lbs in no time. you need to be more specific
 
jomi822 said:
youre just looking at this the wrong way. as redwolf said, apples to oranges. the two substances do not have the same direct or indirect effects. with dianabol you are dealing with a methylated oral, which impacts hepatic igf-1 release and has an instantaneous effect.

are we talking long term use of testosterone?
weight gain?
side effects?
strength gains?

i really dont know how to give you a direct comparison. i can take grams of testosterone all i wants and more or less maintain what i have, but if i throw in any type of oral the instanteous androgen increase can pack on 5-10lbs in no time. you need to be more specific
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I found 375mg of Test E [a week]to be mild [12 wk] and easy to control sides [adex] Not too much wt gain,good strength gain---so Im looking for about same .Ill start with 2x 10mg pd and go from there but what I was aiming for was an all around comparison
 
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