Thanks for the info gents, let me say i agree %100 prcent about nutrition, i like to say "you cant build a brick house without bricks". I am going to cut water weight, its really kind of in the air at the moment as to when the fight is so im researching a bit now to have a solid plan in place. I am hoping to supplement for endurance strength reasons, if i wanted more size i would eat more. So in the long term fat loss with a clean diet, in the near future a solid pre fight stack with the pinnacle being around the time of the yet to be determined fight. I will drop water weight to make weight and hope to only have to lose 8 pounds or so. Im wondering about pheremone-x and mega trn affect of cardio and if anyone has used it a pre fight stack. I found that most stacks ive tried did increase enduance and stamina so hopefully with solid products Generic puts out i can further benefit. Do you know if these would cause any drug test problems and how long do they stay in the system. curious, but thanks for the help so far.