Cycle planning

So gear is ordered (and shipped I believe). Pinz are ordered. Forgot to order the ones for hcg but I can just buy them at cvs. Next step is the pharma stuff, and I'd rather have something and not need it then vice versa. Going to be ordering hcg, exemestane, clomid and nolva. Anything else I may need?
 
vitamins I feel are crucial vitamin d fish oil on vitamin c vitamin e I take all of them on top of a daily vitamin... just personal preference
 
Swindler said:
vitamins I feel are crucial vitamin d fish oil on vitamin c vitamin e I take all of them on top of a daily vitamin... just personal preference
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I agree ......definitely have all your foundational supplements ( Multi, EFA, Vit C etc.) in order.
 
Oh yeah I will probably use orange Triad and I like Arimacare pro with some extra tudca. I just meant more along the line of pharmaceuticals
 
gphagan1 said:
I agree ......definitely have all your foundational supplements ( Multi, EFA, Vit C etc.) in order.
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I would deff double check your Vite intake ^^^ You will be surprised how much vites your body needs on gear. Last time I looked at ingredients of orange triad it was lacking crucial ingredients. Best multi hands down is Now Adam. You will also want to add to it like prev mentioned extra vite D 1000iu+,E,K, vite C at 4-6 gr fights lethargy. Fish oil but not sh1t oil make sure it has 500-800EPA & 250-400DHA. I would also want a good PWO with lots L-glutamine, L-Arganine, L-Citraline, creatine, agmantine [hopefully cuz its awesome] read and research ingredients there are lots of obscure herbs that give great energy, help recovery, help endurance. Lots of PWO just focus on stims or the pump and have dropped muscle building ingredients like L-glutamine and creatine.

I'm 1 of the guys that does not take HCG but I have, and I have it on hand. I don't really get atrophy, I also think ppl over dose it, any more than 500iu e3d you overstimulate your ledigs and cause more harm than good. I think 200iu 2x/week is enough. I really only think it is beneficial to take at end of cycle and during the 10-14 day wait period pre-PCT but it's up to you and plenty ppl find it useful just don't over do it.

PCT helper- most ppl swear by M-test and x-gels and a labido booster. I have a more elaborate natty test program but will try M-test/x-gels/ and few others cuz it's so popular.

As for additional pharmys you may want cialis for pumps, adderall for focus and energy, and some ppl get really depressed and zero energy and drive after a cycle [you can't let this happen cuz you need to train hard during PCT to keep gains] don't know what causes this but some ppl take a SNRI like effexor.

I can't think of much else other than getting your diet on par and make sure you intake more protein than you need! Most ppl don't realize that you body burns, converts, and uses protein for other things than rebuilding muscle, so better to have too much than too little and remember that food protein is way way better than whey protein lol....Enjoy and good luck
 
Thanks man I will look into all of that stuff. I'll be using creatine and I like Pulse as a pre workout. I will look into some of the others
 
Can someone give me a little guidance with the hcg? The site I'm looking at, it looks like it comes with a vial and then an ampoule? And you're supposed to mix them? Is it not possible to just get liquid to inject? Then someone in the reviews was saying once mixed it has to be refrigerated which is not great if its going to be Tra eking a few weeks to get to me
 
DennisC1986 said:
Can someone give me a little guidance with the hcg? The site I'm looking at, it looks like it comes with a vial and then an ampoule? And you're supposed to mix them? Is it not possible to just get liquid to inject? Then someone in the reviews was saying once mixed it has to be refrigerated which is not great if its going to be Tra eking a few weeks to get to me
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HCG comes is an amino acid in powder form. It comes in a sealed vial. The ampule that comes with it is BS water. Break the amp and use a needle to gentally inject the BS water. HCG and all peptides are delicate so slowly inject the water down the side vial making the powder active.Use a slinpin with the plunger removed and insert it in the vile as a vent for the air to release as you inject the BS water. Once active it needs to be refrigerated to keep it from breaking down.
 
OK and then just do the math as to how much to inject I guess? Depending on how much water I inject in there? It was confusing because they all said 5000iu/1ml which would be like a miniscule amount to get 250 iu
 
DennisC1986 said:
Can someone give me a little guidance with the hcg? The site I'm looking at, it looks like it comes with a vial and then an ampoule? And you're supposed to mix them? Is it not possible to just get liquid to inject? Then someone in the reviews was saying once mixed it has to be refrigerated which is not great if its going to be Tra eking a few weeks to get to me
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yeah it loses potency by the day some say after 30 days the shelf life in it is almost gone... and the clock starts ticking after you mix it... you'll need some bac water... and I keep mine in the fridge it slows down the shelf life....
 
Swindler said:
yeah it loses potency by the day some say after 30 days the shelf life in it is almost gone... and the clock starts ticking after you mix it... you'll need some bac water... and I keep mine in the fridge it slows down the shelf life....
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I mix my with 5 cc that way the measuring is easier for me. You will prolly need a separate vile to do all that though. them little vile they send that in can maybe hold 2cc I ain't sure
 
OK so I can get the powder and save it and then mix it when I want to use it? Or does the powder start going bad right away too
 
it will just not near as quickly I usually get 2 or 3 viles at a time and throw them in the freezer... then when I mix them keep them in the fridge
 
You’ll need to order bac water for the hcg. The 1ml they give is useless unless you intend on shooting it all within a few pins. You might need a sterile vial to transport it all in to as well. Youtube how-to vids so you don’t mess it up lol.
 
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