Cycle planning - looking to add "something"

[BuffHairyPotter]

I ran a few cycles in my late 20s (now my late 30s).

I sit at about 18-19% bf @ 195lbs. I really would like to add some mass but get below 15% with my next cycle. So basically a further recomp.

I will be running 600mg Test E (2x 300mg pins weekly)
Running this for 12 weeks.

I am looking to add something to the cycle but just can't really figure it out. I have looked at all the orals and I am open to it, though I genetically have high cholesterol and I take 20mg Lipitor.

A few things I have looked at are Winstrol (a lot of negatives with this as I see), T-bol, or Proviron (50% of people say it does nothing 50% say it does). I would consider Anavar (ran this before) but from what I understand it's the worst for Cholesterol.

I would be willing to pin another liquid but am not super interested in jumping into Tren. I don't think Masteron would do me any good with my current BF.

Any suggestions here?

 

[Nac]

If your hearts set on it so be it but i think recomps are a waste of time. Well, youll make more progress at building muscle, or losing fat, by eating for and focusing on one or the other. You wont get anywhere near maximising either by putting your effort into trying to achieve both.

Im not saying this is you, but alot of times a guy will think yeah i wanna build some muscle, but im fatter than id like to do a "proper" bulk. So they eat at maintainence or a tiny surplus, finish their cycle and have achieved barely anything.

I think, if youre gonna take drugs, get the best bang for your buck (and risk) and do a cut, or bulk. Especially if you cycle and PCT. Guys who blast/cruise *maybe* have a case to recomp every now and then.

And...its likely youll find most AAS will impact your lipids. But almost cerrainly orals will the most. Id skip the orals.

 

[BuffHairyPotter]

If your hearts set on it so be it but i think recomps are a waste of time. Well, youll make more progress at building muscle, or losing fat, by eating for and focusing on one or the other. You wont get anywhere near maximising either by putting your effort into trying to achieve both.

Im not saying this is you, but alot of times a guy will think yeah i wanna build some muscle, but im fatter than id like to do a "proper" bulk. So they eat at maintainence or a tiny surplus, finish their cycle and have achieved barely anything.

I think, if youre gonna take drugs, get the best bang for your buck (and risk) and do a cut, or bulk. Especially if you cycle and PCT. Guys who blast/cruise *maybe* have a case to recomp every now and then.

And...its likely youll find most AAS will impact your lipids. But almost cerrainly orals will the most. Id skip the orals.

Thanks for your comment. I do agree 100% with you. At this point, I'd rather cut than bulk, if I had to pick 1. Cutting is super hard for me. I think I fucked up my caloric burn over the years and it's just so fucking hard to cut now.

For instance, right now this is my exact diet

double protein shake (50g - P)

1 scoop protein powder
2/3 cup greek yogurt (total 43g Protein)

Stir fry veggies (no added oils)
12oz Chicken breast (idk like 60g protein)

Dinner with family (stick to under 1000 calories, we eat super healthy

All this and lifting 4-5 times a week, light cardio, and right now I'm maintaining... So something is fucked up....

I do gain muscle relatively easy though.

So lean more towards the cut for this and bulk for next. I just feel like getting cut will continue to help my motivation.

 

[Nac]

Thanks for your comment. I do agree 100% with you. At this point, I'd rather cut than bulk, if I had to pick 1. Cutting is super hard for me. I think I fucked up my caloric burn over the years and it's just so fucking hard to cut now.

For instance, right now this is my exact diet

double protein shake (50g - P)

1 scoop protein powder
2/3 cup greek yogurt (total 43g Protein)

Stir fry veggies (no added oils)
12oz Chicken breast (idk like 60g protein)

Dinner with family (stick to under 1000 calories, we eat super healthy

All this and lifting 4-5 times a week, light cardio, and right now I'm maintaining... So something is fucked up....

I do gain muscle relatively easy though.

So lean more towards the cut for this and bulk for next. I just feel like getting cut will continue to help my motivation.

Dude at an estimate thats barely 2000 calories. If youve been "undereating" for awhile you couldve fukt up your leptin or something. Maybe other hormones are fukt up too (thyroid, estrogen, etc etc). You prolly dont want to hear this but id be trying to rectify my metabolism if i were in that situation, or at least determine why its how it currently is. This might involve a gradual diet reset, and/or bloods...Id be reluctant to add AAS into the mix until you know where you stand. Otherwise you risk trying to repair a broken limb with a bandaid.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Mikereyn513]

Dude at an estimate thats barely 2000 calories. If youve been "undereating" for awhile you couldve fukt up your leptin or something. Maybe other hormones are fukt up too (thyroid, estrogen, etc etc). You prolly dont want to hear this but id be trying to rectify my metabolism if i were in that situation, or at least determine why its how it currently is. This might involve a gradual diet reset, and/or bloods...Id be reluctant to add AAS into the mix until you know where you stand. Otherwise you risk trying to repair a broken limb with a bandaid.

Just my thoughts.

Thank you I couldn't be the one to say it. What's with all the protein powder, on a cut I still go through 5 pounds of chicken breasts every 2 days. No healthy carbs or fiber for digestion. Lot of work to do here before doing any drugs just my opinion

 

[BBiceps]

Thanks for your comment. I do agree 100% with you. At this point, I'd rather cut than bulk, if I had to pick 1. Cutting is super hard for me. I think I fucked up my caloric burn over the years and it's just so fucking hard to cut now.

For instance, right now this is my exact diet

double protein shake (50g - P)

1 scoop protein powder
2/3 cup greek yogurt (total 43g Protein)

Stir fry veggies (no added oils)
12oz Chicken breast (idk like 60g protein)

Dinner with family (stick to under 1000 calories, we eat super healthy

All this and lifting 4-5 times a week, light cardio, and right now I'm maintaining... So something is fucked up....

I do gain muscle relatively easy though.

So lean more towards the cut for this and bulk for next. I just feel like getting cut will continue to help my motivation.

Yeah like ppl already mentioned add more carbs or/and fat and 12oz chicken breasts is a lot more than 60g of protein (104g), your calculations are off.

If you’re high bf you won’t need a big dose of drugs to lose weight, clean diet will help more.

 

[CasperKValentine]

You should know pretty close to the exact number of calories you eat per day/week. You just have a short list of a few typical things eating a day. I doubt anything is messed up. You're just older brother. I'm not saying you don't have a slow metabolism but that means you just need to keep a closer eye on calories and take in less. It may be harder work for you then someone else but your body can't defy the laws of physics. Keep eating less until you start dropping weight. I just gave the exact opposite advice to my nephew that can't gain weight.

Also make sure you expectations are realistic. I'd cut for about 12 weeks and focus on losing at least a lb per week over that period. Do this and it won't be a drastic loss in water weight or muscle mass. Also keep in mind it won't be linear week to week. So you may gain a lb one week but lose 2 lbs the next, etc. For this reason I normally weight everyday and log the lowest weight as my weekly lbs.

 

[BuffHairyPotter]

BBiceps
Mikereyn513
Nac
A response to a few of the comments... My best guess is I am 18% BF. I try to be conservative so 19 might be the case. I'm not looking to be peeled out of my mind. I just would like to have above-average for a 38-year-old. If I hit 15% and maintain, I'd be happy. Which I already have but I want that 99%ile. I won't be taking the cycle until the first of the year. I don't feel like PEDs is a quick way out of where I am out with my experience.

I have all my pct already in hand as well as Aromasin. 50 x 25mg tablets. So should be set there. When I used gear in the past I had very very minimal sides (gear was legit, buffy of mine took stuff from the same order and broke out like a mother fucker) We both gained a lot but that was also 10 years ago.

Again this isn't my first cycle, but I have been out the life for a while. Kids, COVID, Career... it's not easy to stay peak through that. Some of these young bucks that might be answering will see here before long.

I had brown rice in my diet before the meal plan above, but to continue reducing calories as CasperKValentine suggested, I cut them out 6 weeks ago. As far as calorie counting, I have been eating the same thing for months and months. Since December actually, minus the brown rice change about 6 weeks ago. I log it all, weigh it, and put it into the Fitbit app. Since I got more serious about getting back in shape my scale shows a -6.5 of fat and +6.5 of muscle. Now I know scales are not accurate for BF total percentage but data over 9 months measuring lbs of fat vs. muscle gain is probably pretty accurate from a statical standpoint. I have lost 2 inches on my waist and gained on areas I want.

I would say many people say you shouldn't take anything until your reach your genetic potential. Personally, I believe that is hogwash, in addition to that... Guys... I am not some 17-year-old. I am 38 with 3 cycles in my 20s under my belt. So as far as that, kindly go **** yourself.

Still looking to add an oral to my cycle.

 

[Kronic]

I'm not looking to be peeled out of my mind. I just would like to have above-average for a 38-year-old.

then why the are you doing all these roids lol. you can be above average without that. do you mean above average where Chris Hemsworth is the average male?

 

[Mikereyn513]

BBiceps
Mikereyn513
Nac
A response to a few of the comments... My best guess is I am 18% BF. I try to be conservative so 19 might be the case. I'm not looking to be peeled out of my mind. I just would like to have above-average for a 38-year-old. If I hit 15% and maintain, I'd be happy. Which I already have but I want that 99%ile. I won't be taking the cycle until the first of the year. I don't feel like PEDs is a quick way out of where I am out with my experience.

I have all my pct already in hand as well as Aromasin. 50 x 25mg tablets. So should be set there. When I used gear in the past I had very very minimal sides (gear was legit, buffy of mine took stuff from the same order and broke out like a mother fucker) We both gained a lot but that was also 10 years ago.

Again this isn't my first cycle, but I have been out the life for a while. Kids, COVID, Career... it's not easy to stay peak through that. Some of these young bucks that might be answering will see here before long.

I had brown rice in my diet before the meal plan above, but to continue reducing calories as CasperKValentine suggested, I cut them out 6 weeks ago. As far as calorie counting, I have been eating the same thing for months and months. Since December actually, minus the brown rice change about 6 weeks ago. I log it all, weigh it, and put it into the Fitbit app. Since I got more serious about getting back in shape my scale shows a -6.5 of fat and +6.5 of muscle. Now I know scales are not accurate for BF total percentage but data over 9 months measuring lbs of fat vs. muscle gain is probably pretty accurate from a statical standpoint. I have lost 2 inches on my waist and gained on areas I want.

I would say many people say you shouldn't take anything until your reach your genetic potential. Personally, I believe that is hogwash, in addition to that... Guys... I am not some 17-year-old. I am 38 with 3 cycles in my 20s under my belt. So as far as that, kindly go **** yourself.

Still looking to add an oral to my cycle.

Since you keep using your age as an excuse I'm 41 years old. 240@ 13 % b.f. so yea if you want oral that bad just go get some tbo or anavar and quit whining when you don't hear what you want to hear. If you have all these cycles under your belt you could've answered your question yourself bro

 

[BuffHairyPotter]

then why the are you doing all these roids lol. you can be above average without that. do you mean above average where Chris Hemsworth is the average male?

Didn't know 15% was peeled... Chris Hemsworth like what the **** bro..

 

[BuffHairyPotter]

Since you keep using your age as an excuse I'm 41 years old. 240@ 13 % b.f. so yea if you want oral that bad just go get some tbo or anavar and quit whining when you don't hear what you want to hear. If you have all these cycles under your belt you could've answered your question yourself bro

A lot has changed in 10 years. Wasn't looking on advice on ABC just suggestions on additions to cycle. Like every other person on this board...

 

[Kronic]

Didn't know 15% was peeled... Chris Hemsworth like what the **** bro..

what? I'm saying you don't need the drugs to do it. so you just want to look like Harry Potter goes to the gym? I don't think anyone would need steroids for that.

 

[Kronic]

which one do you wanna look like?

 

[rascal14]

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which one do you wanna look like?

Lol bottom middle for sure

 

[Smont]

A lot has changed in 10 years. Wasn't looking on advice on ABC just suggestions on additions to cycle. Like every other person on this board...

Yeah because over the last 10 years people actually started helping people instead of telling them what they want to hear.


Pick whatever you want and use it, the choice of gear makes very little difference. Your diet is like 90% or your results.


And I'm another guy against recomp. It's a waste of a cycle. I once spent an entire year blasting and cruising trying to recap for the entire year and at the end of that year I made less progress than I did the following year with one bulk and one cut.

What you're going to see happen in 12 to 16 weeks recomping is going to be barely noticeable. But if you go on a diet you can drop a significant amount of body fat and having night and day difference in your appearance.

Here's why recomp is going to be terrible for you.

If you're around 20% body fat like you say you are then you've probably got crappy insulin sensitivity at the moment. And if burning fat is as hard as you say it is then you definitely have crappy insulin sensitivity at the moment and your overeating.

You're in a position right now where you are not an optimal state to build muscle and you are also not an optimal state to burn fat so you're going to do two things poorly at the same exact time, which makes them both even harder to begin with.

 

[Mikereyn513]

Yeah because over the last 10 years people actually started helping people instead of telling them what they want to hear.


Pick whatever you want and use it, the choice of gear makes very little difference. Your diet is like 90% or your results.


And I'm another guy against recomp. It's a waste of a cycle. I once spent an entire year blasting and cruising trying to recap for the entire year and at the end of that year I made less progress than I did the following year with one bulk and one cut.

What you're going to see happen in 12 to 16 weeks recomping is going to be barely noticeable. But if you go on a diet you can drop a significant amount of body fat and having night and day difference in your appearance.

Here's why recomp is going to be terrible for you.

If you're around 20% body fat like you say you are then you've probably got crappy insulin sensitivity at the moment. And if burning fat is as hard as you say it is then you definitely have crappy insulin sensitivity at the moment and your overeating.

You're in a position right now where you are not an optimal state to build muscle and you are also not an optimal state to burn fat so you're going to do two things poorly at the same exact time, which makes them both even harder to begin with.

I was trying to help the best I could without being a total d1ck right up until he told me to go eff myself. My cycle is going fantastic as you know @Smont So I may just watch some pornhub and do exactly that my libido is outta control lol

 

[Nac]

Still looking to add an oral to my cycle.

A lot has changed in 10 years. Wasn't looking on advice on ABC just suggestions on additions to cycle. Like every other person on this board...

What are you thinking an oral will achieve for you? As far as body composition is concerned, they offer temporary benefits. As soon as youre off them those benefits are gone. A recreational lifter who takes Rx for lipid abnormalities....it makes no sense to use them. Your goals are modest, theres little reason to use an oral. And im being a hypocrite here, but ill be the first to admit i 100% regret my historical use of orals.

In the grand scheme of things, bigger picture, youll achieve everything you want (as long as its reasonable) with inj only. Given the goals you detailed above.

 

[pureburl]

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I would say many people say you shouldn't take anything until your reach your genetic potential. Personally, I believe that is hogwash, in addition to that... Guys... I am not some 17-year-old. I am 38 with 3 cycles in my 20s under my belt. So as far as that, kindly go **** yourself.

Still looking to add an oral to my cycle.
[/QUOTE]
wow dude, why ask for advice if you’re gonna get that sensitive?

 

[BBiceps]

I was tagged so I reply.

Being 38, having a career and family is all excuses and steroids will not fix them. Fix your eating habits and you’ll lose weight, simple as that, when you’re not fat anymore and you still want to do a cycle go ahead.

Something to remember for everyone, steroids will not fix a shitty diet! If you want to be lean and stay lean, find a good diet you can follow.

Oh btw, I’m older than you OP and I’m having a high paying career, happily married (with kids) and still find ways to stay in shape year around, it’s all about discipline/dedication/sacrifice.

 

[Smont]

I was tagged so I reply.

Being 38, having a career and family is all excuses and steroids will not fix them. Fix your eating habits and you’ll lose weight, simple as that, when you’re not fat anymore and you still want to do a cycle go ahead.

Something to remember for everyone, steroids will not fix a shitty diet! If you want to be lean and stay lean, find a good diet you can follow.

Oh btw, I’m older than you OP and I’m having a high paying career, happily married (with kids) and still find ways to stay in shape year around, it’s all about discipline/dedication/sacrifice.

Everyone needs to make excuses to make themselves feel better.
I'm 37, working a job that involves 3 hours of driving to and from work everyday and then it's a 8-10 hour shift.

I'm on the road 11-13hours a day and then I work side jobs on the weekends.
I got 2 kids too.

I get up at 4 am "right now" and I'm packing up my cooler with all me meals except dinner, I eat on the drive to work, break time, lunch time, on the ride home I drink a shake and head to the gym. I'm either boxing or lifting weights.

I get home and cook dinner, clean up, shower and get ready to do it again tomorrow.

Everyone has enough time to do it if the want it

 

[BBiceps]

Everyone has enough time to do it if the want it

That right there is the truth

 

[Mikereyn513]

Everyone needs to make excuses to make themselves feel better.
I'm 37, working a job that involves 3 hours of driving to and from work everyday and then it's a 8-10 hour shift.

I'm on the road 11-13hours a day and then I work side jobs on the weekends.
I got 2 kids too.

I get up at 4 am "right now" and I'm packing up my cooler with all me meals except dinner, I eat on the drive to work, break time, lunch time, on the ride home I drink a shake and head to the gym. I'm either boxing or lifting weights.

I get home and cook dinner, clean up, shower and get ready to do it again tomorrow.

Everyone has enough time to do it if the want it

I think I've told you this before. I don't mind telling people at work that I'm on gear because they ask. The reason is they know what I go through and " it not just the steroids" I start at 4am pdt I get there at 330 fur breakfast can tuna 2 eggs 2 packets oatmeal I yogurt 2 hours late on first break 8 Oz chicken 2 cups rice and so on every 2 hours at each break for a 10-12 hour shift. I always laugh when someone new starts and they see me emptying my back pack and always ask oh you bring your food for the whole week and everyone whose been there a while always laughs and tells them oh you have no idea...lol

 

[Smont]

I think I've told you this before. I don't mind telling people at work that I'm on gear because they ask. The reason is they know what I go through and " it not just the steroids" I start at 4am pdt I get there at 330 fur breakfast can tuna 2 eggs 2 packets oatmeal I yogurt 2 hours late on first break 8 Oz chicken 2 cups rice and so on every 2 hours at each break for a 10-12 hour shift. I always laugh when someone new starts and they see me emptying my back pack and always ask oh you bring your food for the whole week and everyone whose been there a while always laughs and tells them oh you have no idea...lol

My lunch box lol

 

[Smont]

Because I got to work early and I'm bored,

Here's the I don't want to cut or bulk and I wanna eat whatever I want cycle

Testosterone cyp or enth 300-450mg per week, we don't want to get bloated from our crappy diet so keep testosterone moderate.

Exemestane 12.5mg EOD, we need to keep estrogen bloat down even though it's not really for estrogen, it's from angiotensin and food choices

Clen 20,20,40,40,60,60,80,80
T3 50mcg the entire cycle
Anavar 50mg weeks 6-13

If you want to throw all caution to the wind

Tren ace 50-100mg EOD
Oral winny 50mg the last 4-6weeks

Still not a crazy cycle, but without throwing the kitchen sink approach in, this is my opinion of what a recomp cycle is going to look like. The var/tren/winny combo at the end is going to cosmetically change anyone's appearance but it's going to be shorter lived. You're going to look great the last 6 weeks of this cycle and maybe another two to three weeks after the cycle and then you'll start looking back to the way you did before when the cosmetic effects went off.

 

[Smont]

If you want the kitchen sink approach then double the doses of all the anabolics. Leave clen and t3 the same

And used insulin and GH the whole cycle.

I'm not giving advice on insulin dosing

 

[Mikereyn513]

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My lunch box lol

That's right brother...a cooler full of gains..if only more people would understand that cooler is more important than any vial, ampule, or bottle of sarms

 

[BBiceps]

That's right brother...a cooler full of gains..if only more people would understand that cooler is more important than any vial, ampule, or bottle of sarms

Second truth of the thread.

 

[Mikereyn513]

@Smont @BBiceps did we just hijack this dudes thread? Lol

 

[rascal14]

Because I got to work early and I'm bored,

Here's the I don't want to cut or bulk and I wanna eat whatever I want cycle

Testosterone cyp or enth 300-450mg per week, we don't want to get bloated from our crappy diet so keep testosterone moderate.

Exemestane 12.5mg EOD, we need to keep estrogen bloat down even though it's not really for estrogen, it's from angiotensin and food choices

Clen 20,20,40,40,60,60,80,80
T3 50mcg the entire cycle
Anavar 50mg weeks 6-13

If you want to throw all caution to the wind

Tren ace 50-100mg EOD
Oral winny 50mg the last 4-6weeks

Still not a crazy cycle, but without throwing the kitchen sink approach in, this is my opinion of what a recomp cycle is going to look like. The var/tren/winny combo at the end is going to cosmetically change anyone's appearance but it's going to be shorter lived. You're going to look great the last 6 weeks of this cycle and maybe another two to three weeks after the cycle and then you'll start looking back to the way you did before when the cosmetic effects went off.

I’m curious, what do you consider a crappy diet? You see people who make a living competing and off their image, they eat protein powder, chicken, and rice. Then you see guys who just get started eating a whole pizza to gain weight, a cheeseburger, eggs and bacon, etc.

Is it the actual food you consume or the macros/calories/salt content? Just curious how people view it these days. A few years ago it was IIFYM and all is well. I’ve seen your specific diet so I know what you eat (somewhat). I would also consider yourself more than just a hobbiest that runs a cycle here and there, but you aren’t making money from your physique so an extra pinch of salt won’t kill you lol

If we believe what he says for what he eats (no real reason not to, you have to assume it’s the truth to give good advice for their specifics), then I’d say his food choices themselves are fine. But, I’m not the right person to be making those decisions

 

[Smont]

I’m curious, what do you consider a crappy diet? You see people who make a living competing and off their image, they eat protein powder, chicken, and rice. Then you see guys who just get started eating a whole pizza to gain weight, a cheeseburger, eggs and bacon, etc.

Is it the actual food you consume or the macros/calories/salt content? Just curious how people view it these days. A few years ago it was IIFYM and all is well. I’ve seen your specific diet so I know what you eat (somewhat). I would also consider yourself more than just a hobbiest that runs a cycle here and there, but you aren’t making money from your physique so an extra pinch of salt won’t kill you lol

If we believe what he says for what he eats (no real reason not to, you have to assume it’s the truth to give good advice for their specifics), then I’d say his food choices themselves are fine. But, I’m not the right person to be making those decisions

The stuff you see on YouTube is not what people are eating in real life it's called sensationalism. No great physiques are built on iifym, some might be maintained on it but no one's getting built on it.

People who eat great look great point blank.

If your between 15-20% bodyfat you do not have a great diet, you have a average diet and a average diet can provide you with an average amount of body fat.

You can out train a crappy diet to a small degree I'm an example of that. But even with the ridiculous amounts of stuff that I do I can't get ripped without fixing my diet.

Also when I say a crappy diet I'm talking about a crappy diet for physique purposes not for health purposes.

There's more to it than that and also my poster quoting was me just making a post I wasn't specifically talking about this guy as I didn't even read what he eats.

All I know is he said that dieting is really hard and when people say that dieting is really hard so I want to recomp it's just an excuse, because what people fail to understand is that a recap diet is a thousand times harder to nail than a cutting diet. A successful recon diet has zero room for error

 

[Smont]

Sorry I'm using talk to text and it changes some words

 

[Smont]

I've never understood how someone thinks cutting is hard but cutting and building muscle at the same time is going to be easier

 

[rascal14]

The stuff you see on YouTube is not what people are eating in real life it's called sensationalism. No great physiques are built on iifym, some might be maintained on it but no one's getting built on it.

People who eat great look great point blank.

If your between 15-20% bodyfat you do not have a great diet, you have a average diet and a average diet can provide you with an average amount of body fat.

You can out train a crappy diet to a small degree I'm an example of that. But even with the ridiculous amounts of stuff that I do I can't get ripped without fixing my diet.

Also when I say a crappy diet I'm talking about a crappy diet for physique purposes not for health purposes.

There's more to it than that and also my poster quoting was me just making a post I wasn't specifically talking about this guy as I didn't even read what he eats.

All I know is he said that dieting is really hard and when people say that dieting is really hard so I want to recomp it's just an excuse, because what people fail to understand is that a recap diet is a thousand times harder to nail than a cutting diet. A successful recon diet has zero room for error

I think we’re on the same page, I also think a lot of guys who aren’t familiar with the sport consider 12% bf shredded as long as there is a decent bit of muscle mass to pair with it.

 

[Mikereyn513]

The stuff you see on YouTube is not what people are eating in real life it's called sensationalism. No great physiques are built on iifym, some might be maintained on it but no one's getting built on it.

People who eat great look great point blank.

If your between 15-20% bodyfat you do not have a great diet, you have a average diet and a average diet can provide you with an average amount of body fat.

You can out train a crappy diet to a small degree I'm an example of that. But even with the ridiculous amounts of stuff that I do I can't get ripped without fixing my diet.

Also when I say a crappy diet I'm talking about a crappy diet for physique purposes not for health purposes.

There's more to it than that and also my poster quoting was me just making a post I wasn't specifically talking about this guy as I didn't even read what he eats.

All I know is he said that dieting is really hard and when people say that dieting is really hard so I want to recomp it's just an excuse, because what people fail to understand is that a recap diet is a thousand times harder to nail than a cutting diet. A successful recon diet has zero room for error

I like Gregg Doucette for the most part but his "maingaining" craze is a bunch of crap and he knows it. He might be able to do it because he's that in tune with his body but that was built over 20 years of trial and error trust me