Cycle look ok?

[bl00dredrain]

Ok I know you guys see about 100 of these a day but I just want to make sure everything is set.
Age 21
180lb
lifting 2 years
Only other cycle was alpha mass.
Trying to decide on SD or D-Zine, help?
SD would be ran 10/20/20/20
D-Zine 15/30/30/30
Support supps multi, fish oil, taurine if back pumps, AI cycle support or CEL cycle assist, which do you prefer?
PCT is AI Post cycle support and nolva at 20/20/10/10 - is that correct for either PH?
Any help/ideas? Thanks.

 

[MattPorter]

Ok I know you guys see about 100 of these a day but I just want to make sure everything is set.
Age 21
180lb
lifting 2 years
Only other cycle was alpha mass.
Trying to decide on SD or D-Zine, help?
SD would be ran 10/20/20/20
D-Zine 15/30/30/30
Support supps multi, fish oil, taurine if back pumps, AI cycle support or CEL cycle assist, which do you prefer?
PCT is AI Post cycle support and nolva at 20/20/10/10 - is that correct for either PH?
Any help/ideas? Thanks.

What did you get out of the ALphaMass cycle?

SD is a serious steroid -- so serious sides may be an issue, and of course good gains should happen too.

Get that ol' liver primed with Liver Juice and saturate the Sh!t outta it!

Stay safe,

-Matt

 

[bl00dredrain]

What did you get out of the ALphaMass cycle?

SD is a serious steroid -- so serious sides may be an issue, and of course good gains should happen too.

Get that ol' liver primed with Liver Juice and saturate the Sh!t outta it!

Stay safe,

-Matt

Ahh yes liver juice is what I'm missing haha, thank you. And mostly just strength gains..arms were a bit bigger but went down during pct. Strength is still higher than it was before cycle so wasn't that bad. One of their reps only recommended me a OTC pct tho and I don't think that was the best idea.

 

[MattPorter]

Ahh yes liver juice is what I'm missing haha, thank you. And mostly just strength gains..arms were a bit bigger but went down during pct. Strength is still higher than it was before cycle so wasn't that bad. One of their reps only recommended me a OTC pct tho and I don't think that was the best idea.

I am actually super impressed you got gains from that product with th elow potency the 1-androsterone is dosed at....

Well if you think shutdown from 1dhea is bad...SD is tough. Maybe try some "blitz cycles" like guys used to do in 2000-2003 -- 2 weeks on 2 off- a few cycles of that and apparently it worked. 2 steps forward 1 back --- but perhaps done a few times in a row.....you'd have to experiment.

If you wanted to run a long , safer cycle to "solidify gains" and make you body become accustom to the muscle accrual -- look into the new Andro Series v3 products....they are what FRL tried to replicate, but VERY highly dosed and now has even better delivery than past version.


-Matt

 

[massolic]

I am actually super impressed you got gains from that product with th elow potency the 1-androsterone is dosed at....

Well if you think shutdown from 1dhea is bad...SD is tough. Maybe try some "blitz cycles" like guys used to do in 2000-2003 -- 2 weeks on 2 off- a few cycles of that and apparently it worked. 2 steps forward 1 back --- but perhaps done a few times in a row.....you'd have to experiment.

If you wanted to run a long , safer cycle to "solidify gains" and make you body become accustom to the muscle accrual -- look into the new Andro Series v3 products....they are what FRL tried to replicate, but VERY highly dosed and now has even better delivery than past version.


-Matt

Hey matt, I'm actuall interested in AMv3 as i heard that the one dose a day decreases shutdown and suppression..and id like to use a small dose of nolvaalong with otc pct to keep my gains and eat and train with same/better intensity, which is key to keeping gains also.. Would 4 week gave gais as two bottles can empty the bank? lol....


P.S OP sorryfor hijacking ur thread, too excited :knockedout:

 

[MattPorter]

Hey matt, I'm actuall interested in AMv3 as i heard that the one dose a day decreases shutdown and suppression..and id like to use a small dose of nolvaalong with otc pct to keep my gains and eat and train with same/better intensity, which is key to keeping gains also.. Would 4 week gave gais as two bottles can empty the bank? lol....


P.S OP sorryfor hijacking ur thread, too excited :knockedout:

I noticed testers were getting weight gain around week 2 and carried that on for 3-4 more weeks. But yes-4 weeks is good and you can accomplish alot, it is just a matter of how your body responds.

For instance --If you are picking up a few lbs every few days up until almost week 4, that would be a disservice to yourself to not keep "milking" the cycle for all its worth.

Then again - I completely understand as pricing can be a hinderance. The lack of severe suppression is pretty awesome though and is worth every penny.

-Matt

 

[MakaveliThaDon]

AI's cycle support is a real good product, but it tastes AWFUL. I'd check out n2guard if I were you. Pill form, so all you have to do for your cycle support is down a few pills, no nasty tasting powders to mess with.

 

[jamesm11]

AI's cycle support is a real good product, but it tastes AWFUL. I'd check out n2guard if I were you. Pill form, so all you have to do for your cycle support is down a few pills, no nasty tasting powders to mess with.

It doesn't taste that bad. And they have a capsule version called life support I believe that's similar. Best of all is that it's not absurdly priced like need2 stuff

 

[bl00dredrain]

Thanks for the replies. I heard it didn't taste very good, but someone said just put it in your chocolate protein shake and its fine. Also think I'm going to change my pct to clomid after reading about how nolva gave negative libido on some people.

 

[ReyMan]

Ok I know you guys see about 100 of these a day but I just want to make sure everything is set.
Age 21
180lb
lifting 2 years
Only other cycle was alpha mass.
Trying to decide on SD or D-Zine, help?
SD would be ran 10/20/20/20
D-Zine 15/30/30/30
Support supps multi, fish oil, taurine if back pumps, AI cycle support or CEL cycle assist, which do you prefer?
PCT is AI Post cycle support and nolva at 20/20/10/10 - is that correct for either PH?
Any help/ideas? Thanks.

I appreciate that you did some research! Cycle looks good. I like sd. Nolva Is good but I like clomid better. Brings the balls back nicely, and no downed libido

 

[bl00dredrain]

I appreciate that you did some research! Cycle looks good. I like sd. Nolva Is good but I like clomid better. Brings the balls back nicely, and no downed libido

Awesome thank you. Definitely go with clomid then, how would you run it for a sd cycle?

 

[ReyMan]

Awesome thank you. Definitely go with clomid then, how would you run it for a sd cycle?

300 first day, 100 rest of the week/75/75/50