cycle help please

atown80

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Hey guys need a lil cycle help. Im getting ready to start a new cycle Tren a and Test P. this is my 6th cycle but havent done one in about a year. I have been hearing all these things on running tren higher then test and would like some input on people who have done this before. My last cycle was the same but i ran the test P higher because thats what i have always heard to do. This is what I have on hand so any cycle advice would be much appreciated. Thanx bros


Tren A- 4 10ml bottles
Test P- 3 10ml bottles
adex- 1 bottle

I also have a little letro from my last cycle in case of an emergency but so far not gyno prone
 
Yes, Tren averagely higher than test, and for less time so its out of your system before nolva so you don't get horrid rebound, i'd run your AI at a constant dose symptoms or not, need to keep a baseline e level.
im sure you can end aroun the same time start PCT...what do they say 3 days after?


clearing this up, tren ace and test prop right? both short esters?

edit- not sure if it applies to short esters, but pct is 3 days after rather 2 weeks i think, i never ran a short ester, too much pinning
 
uniifirex said:
Yes, Tren averagely higher than test, and for less time so its out of your system before nolva so you don't get horrid rebound, i'd run your AI at a constant dose symptoms or not, need to keep a baseline e level.
im sure you can end aroun the same time start PCT...what do they say 3 days after?

clearing this up, tren ace and test prop right? both short esters?

edit- not sure if it applies to short esters, but pct is 3 days after rather 2 weeks i think, i never ran a short ester, too much pinning

With Test P its 2 days after your last pin.
 
Yes I have my pct locked down I have done numerous cycles. But like I said ive done this cycle before and was running 1.25 cc of test prop eod and .75 cc of tren ace. So what do I do reverse this?? Also I heard running tren higher also minimizes sides so an AI might not be necessary throughout cycle just keep on hand. This is all hear say though and I would just like to know from experience if this is true or false.
 
Nolva 40/40/20/20 I also have a bunch of clomid on hand but that messed with my eyes last time I took it and gave me some vision problems
 
Yeah 300 mg of test and 500 mg of tren is fine, have some caber on hand though just in case since your using tren. I definitely prefer clomid, but tren ace clears very fast but i'd run the test 2 weeks longer anyway, so nolva is fine.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Yeah 300 mg of test and 500 mg of tren is fine, have some caber on hand though just in case since your using tren. I definitely prefer clomid, but tren ace clears very fast but i'd run the test 2 weeks longer anyway, so nolva is fine.

Never used caber.... Should I dose throughout cycle with that?? Last pct I did 40/40/20/20 nolva and 100/50/50/50 clomid to much? I was thinking 400 tren 300 test p don't know if I have enough to run 500 a week with 4 bottles
 
Prami/caber/HCG i think are around the same level of having it on hand.

Can get prami from a research chem site but do a fair share of research because its potent.

Also yes @ str8ed for the 2 days after, dont mind my saying 3.
 
atown80 said:
Never used caber.... Should I dose throughout cycle with that?? Last pct I did 40/40/20/20 nolva and 100/50/50/50 clomid to much? I was thinking 400 tren 300 test p don't know if I have enough to run 500 a week with 4 bottles

Sorry that gives me 8 weeks tren a and 10 weeks of test p. so I have exactly enough for that. Of my math is right that's 1.6 cc tren a eod and 1cc test p eod..... God damn that's gonna hurt
 
If they are both oil based, just mix them, make sure your not hitting the same spot more than once a week, right quad, left quad, right glute, left glute.

Personally wouldnt stick more than 1.5cc in the delt if you consider it, but i've got small ecto delts :(
 
atown80 said:
Sorry that gives me 8 weeks tren a and 10 weeks of test p. so I have exactly enough for that. Of my math is right that's 1.6 cc tren a eod and 1cc test p eod..... God damn that's gonna hurt

Yes run the tren 8 weeks at 400mg and test p at 300mg, run the caber as needed if u start experiencing sides. Run hcg throughout cycle from week 3 thru week 10, 500iu a week split into 250iu 2x a week E3D. Run arimidex .25mg EOD, your test dose is low so that should b fine.
 
I think clomid alone at 100/50/50/50 plus exemestane 12.5mg ED and DAA will b sufficient for pct, I am not a fan of nolva.
 
Yo Sam, u love nolva... Why does everyone on here love that stuff so much.. There are 5 other options that are less harsh on the system and dont fight the for the receptor...
I prefer my test/tren ratio about 2/1.. Helped me regulate sides... But i have been seeing tons of people running the higher tren and lower test dose with good results.... you shoud use the tests as a maintence around 300.. would be ok... How many weeks are you planning on running?
 
DRSTRISMADAST said:
Yo Sam, u love nolva... Why does everyone on here love that stuff so much.. There are 5 other options that are less harsh on the system and dont fight the for the receptor...
I prefer my test/tren ratio about 2/1.. Helped me regulate sides... But i have been seeing tons of people running the higher tren and lower test dose with good results.... you shoud use the tests as a maintence around 300.. would be ok... How many weeks are you planning on running?

Lol Johnny u know I hate nolva. Idk too little estrogen during your pct is bad, idk why ppl can't understand that. I'm gonna run my tren a little higher than my test too, 300mg test and 400 mg tren.
 
Dont talk bad about nolva on here, youll have an angry mob run up on you... Literally check this out, i can post links yet still, wank as hell, but look for thread titled all you need to know about pct... Maybe you can help explain to them that i might no what im talking about... just a tad... lol
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Lol Johnny u know I hate nolva. Idk too little estrogen during your pct is bad, idk why ppl can't understand that. I'm gonna run my tren a little higher than my test too, 300mg test and 400 mg tren.

Ok so you think I'll get good results with the 400/300 ratio as opposed to 500/300 ratio. Either way I'm gonna only be able to shoot my glutes every other day because that's way to much gear for my quads. Last time I shoot 2.25 cc in my quad I couldn't walk for a week!
 
Rotate injection sites bro.. Ive hit everywhere... Some days you may have to split the injection up into areas... I hate quads and hammys, always hurt after.... Go outter glute, Outter glute, inner glute, inner glute, Quad, Quad, Delt, Delt, hammy, Hammy, and rotate...

I would asses your tolerance before jumping into 500mg a week of tren.... is your getting no sides maybe up the dose... but more is less with AAS, its all about your diet and training and resting... you dont need to megadose for an extra lb of weight... Its a marathon bro, not a sprint...
 
atown80 said:
Ok so you think I'll get good results with the 400/300 ratio as opposed to 500/300 ratio. Either way I'm gonna only be able to shoot my glutes every other day because that's way to much gear for my quads. Last time I shoot 2.25 cc in my quad I couldn't walk for a week!

Yeah 400/300 is fine bro.
 
DRSTRISMADAST said:
Rotate injection sites bro.. Ive hit everywhere... Some days you may have to split the injection up into areas... I hate quads and hammys, always hurt after.... Go outter glute, Outter glute, inner glute, inner glute, Quad, Quad, Delt, Delt, hammy, Hammy, and rotate...

I would asses your tolerance before jumping into 500mg a week of tren.... is your getting no sides maybe up the dose... but more is less with AAS, its all about your diet and training and resting... you dont need to megadose for an extra lb of weight... Its a marathon bro, not a sprint...

This^^^^
 
DRSTRISMADAST said:
Rotate injection sites bro.. Ive hit everywhere... Some days you may have to split the injection up into areas... I hate quads and hammys, always hurt after.... Go outter glute, Outter glute, inner glute, inner glute, Quad, Quad, Delt, Delt, hammy, Hammy, and rotate...

I would asses your tolerance before jumping into 500mg a week of tren.... is your getting no sides maybe up the dose... but more is less with AAS, its all about your diet and training and resting... you dont need to megadose for an extra lb of weight... Its a marathon bro, not a sprint...

I couldn't agree more brother Ive been training hard for the past 6 years non-stop but I won't do another cycle for prob 8-12 months after this one so I just wanna get the best results I possibly can, not trying to sprint anywhere. Thanks for your help guys
 
atown80 said:
I couldn't agree more brother Ive been training hard for the past 6 years non-stop but I won't do another cycle for prob 8-12 months after this one so I just wanna get the best results I possibly can, not trying to sprint anywhere. Thanks for your help guys

No problem bro. Go ape sh1t bro.
 
You should pumped up as hell bro with all that tren... if i was on that much, i probably would have raped every fat gurl on an eliptical at the gym....
 
You also need to take the dosage into consideration. Injecting 2ml of 100mg/ml into your quad and injecting 1ml of 500mg/ml into your other quad, i guarentee the one with 500mg will hurt more.... Volume plays a role, but dose strength is more important...
 
DRSTRISMADAST said:
You should pumped up as hell bro with all that tren... if i was on that much, i probably would have raped every fat gurl on an eliptical at the gym....

Haha chubby bitches get it too.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Haha chubby bitches get it too.

I saw you wrote chubby bitches so I came running.
Nothing like waking up next to a chub rock after a long night.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Yes run the tren 8 weeks at 400mg and test p at 300mg, run the caber as needed if u start experiencing sides. Run hcg throughout cycle from week 3 thru week 10, 500iu a week split into 250iu 2x a week E3D. Run arimidex .25mg EOD, your test dose is low so that should b fine.

K bro checked with my guy I can't get any hcg from him and the research Chem lab I use doesn't sell it either.... You think with just 8 weeks on tren I really need it? I did not use it last time I was on tren.
 
atown80 said:
K bro checked with my guy I can't get any hcg from him and the research Chem lab I use doesn't sell it either.... You think with just 8 weeks on tren I really need it? I did not use it last time I was on tren.

And u recovered well and kept your gains?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
And u recovered well and kept your gains?

My libido went down when I came off the tren for a little while nothing a little liquid cialis couldn't fix for a couple months..... I was cranky and irritable but prob because I just missed the jacked feeling I became accustomed to..... But I def kept mos of my gains like I said before I ran nova And clomid together
 
atown80 said:
My libido went down when I came off the tren for a little while nothing a little liquid cialis couldn't fix for a couple months..... I was cranky and irritable but prob because I just missed the jacked feeling I became accustomed to..... But I def kept mos of my gains like I said before I ran nova And clomid together

Eh with that being said you'll b fine without it, but get some HCGenerate if u can, its the best alternative to real hcg and its OTC. Run it though your cycle.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Eh with that being said you'll b fine without it, but get some HCGenerate if u can, its the best alternative to real hcg and its OTC. Run it though your cycle.

Really?? I heard all that oct **** was complete garbage..... A lil off topic my first pin was today and I have been on the palumbo keto diet for the past month and have had some amazing results I actually put on a lil muscle. But this is my first time using any kin of keto diet. Thoughts of this diet on cycle?
 
atown80 said:
Really?? I heard all that oct **** was complete garbage..... A lil off topic my first pin was today and I have been on the palumbo keto diet for the past month and have had some amazing results I actually put on a lil muscle. But this is my first time using any kin of keto diet. Thoughts of this diet on cycle?

**** products work great. Keto focking sucks, it kills me. I know tren has the tendency to drop ppl's blood sugar so they go hypo, that would b hell. I'd have some carbs honestly bro.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
**** products work great. Keto focking sucks, it kills me. I know tren has the tendency to drop ppl's blood sugar so they go hypo, that would b hell. I'd have some carbs honestly bro.

Well ****! How about an anabolic diet while on cycle..... I'm trying to cut get nice lean hard gains and keep dropping some bf.... Any ideas
 
If your on anything with an anabolic property, throw in an anti-catabolic and you should be set on all bf loss, hopefully keep what you've got depending on diet.

calories in<calories out.
 
DRSTRISMADAST said:
Eat clean.carbs n.protein. Keep it round 350 g pro 100-120 g carbs, n 70 g fat

Great thanks for the advice..... Should I jump right into that since for 5 weeks I've been on 30 grams of carbs a day besides a cheat meal 1 time a week to jump my metabolism.... I don't want my body to freak out and I lose all the progress I have made.... I went from about 18% which is high for me to 14% in 5 weeks
 
atown80 said:
Great thanks for the advice..... Should I jump right into that since for 5 weeks I've been on 30 grams of carbs a day besides a cheat meal 1 time a week to jump my metabolism.... I don't want my body to freak out and I lose all the progress I have made.... I went from about 18% which is high for me to 14% in 5 weeks

Slowly start upping them to 100-120 over a few days time, you'll b fine I've gone from keto to low carbs b4, u won't gain any fat.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Eh with that being said you'll b fine without it, but get some HCGenerate if u can, its the best alternative to real hcg and its OTC. Run it though your cycle.

Just got my HCgenerate in the mail.... What dosage do u think
 
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