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Cycle help/information....

TonyBo

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I'm trying to figure out if I can/should take anything else with what I am stacking. I was thinking about throwing RPN Havoc, Ecdy, L-arginine, or DAA in. I'm open to suggestions though.

This is everything I am currently taking..

On my first week of - 100mg of 1-AD (1-androstene-3Beta,17beta-Diol) Twice a day.
On my first week of - 300mg of 4-AD (4-androstene-3-beta, 17-beta-Diol) Twice a day.
Fish Oil
Milk Thistle
Multivitamins
Whey Protein
BCAAs
Taurine

PCT will be: Novla, possibly DAA, and creatine.
 
DAA during cycle is wasted, I've heard mostly blah about ecdy, havoc could work well, as it is epistane if i remember right.
 
If I start taking DAA or Havoc with everything else, I'm going to throw PCT Assist, or Organ Shield just to be on the safer side.
 
ManBeast said:
DAA during cycle is wasted, I've heard mostly blah about ecdy, havoc could work well, as it is epistane if i remember right.
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Yeah maybe I'll just keep DAA for my PCT, along with Novla.

Edcy worked for my last year. I never heard anything positive about it, but my strength shot up when I took 300mg/600mg a day. Just never used it with a PH stack like this.

Well I was talking about HPN Havoc, it's OTC. Are you talking about IBE Epistane? Or the Grey market version?
 
Agree - DAA during PCT - start last week of cycle and run through PCT.
Glad to see you bumped up the support - that was going to be my advise.
 
TonyBo said:
I'm trying to figure out if I can/should take anything else with what I am stacking. I was thinking about throwing RPN Havoc, Ecdy, L-arginine, or DAA in. I'm open to suggestions though.

This is everything I am currently taking..

On my first week of - 100mg of 1-AD (1-androstene-3Beta,17beta-Diol) Twice a day.
On my first week of - 300mg of 4-AD (4-androstene-3-beta, 17-beta-Diol) Twice a day.
Fish Oil
Milk Thistle
Multivitamins
Whey Protein
BCAAs
Taurine

PCT will be: Novla, possibly DAA, and creatine.
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Not that it really matter, but I am also using Dextrose in my post-workout shakes.
 
GreenMailer said:
Agree - DAA during PCT - start last week of cycle and run through PCT.
Glad to see you bumped up the support - that was going to be my advise.
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Yeah I'm going to bump up the support, especailly if I use Havoc or Epistane.

Do you think I could take either of those while I'm on the 1-ad/4-ad cycle?
 
TonyBo said:
Yeah I'm going to bump up the support, especailly if I use Havoc or Epistane.

Do you think I could take either of those while I'm on the 1-ad/4-ad cycle?
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Havoc = epistane. They are the same compound. Don't use PCT assist during cycle, save it for PCT.
 
Personally i would run cycle support or life support for the whole run supplemented with aegis. But i like to err on the heavy side of support.
 
every f*ckin source of tudca is out of stock everywhere i look gawddamnit
 
this is really simple man havoc IS FING epistane OK? DO U GET IT NOW? Also run epistane for 4-6 weeks with life support and then for pct nolva and daa, again really simple man. As far as 1-ad, u run that year round?
TonyBo said:
Ah, okay. Should I take either Havoc or Epistane with what I am taking now, or is that too many compounds for one cycle?
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GreenMailer said:
Personally i would run cycle support or life support for the whole run supplemented with aegis. But i like to err on the heavy side of support.
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I just bought Cycle Assist. I didn't pre-load if obviously, but it still should give me some support during my cycle.
 
Husker89 said:
this is really simple man havoc IS FING epistane OK? DO U GET IT NOW? Also run epistane for 4-6 weeks with life support and then for pct nolva and daa, again really simple man. As far as 1-ad, u run that year round?
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I get that. I was asking if it was okay to run with 1-AD/4-AD (diol, not the DHEA ****). That what I wanted to know.

No. You have to cycle 1-ad/4-ad, just like any other prohormone.
 
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