Cycle ending this week: Peptides are next. Need Clarification

[enoc09]

Sup bros,

26 years old, 6'0, 200 lb, body fat 8%. Been lifting for five years (four years serious dedication)(was 230lb but pure fat and got down to 140lb). Started at 187 lb, body fat 10%. I managed to gain 13 pounds of solid muscle and am happy with what I achieved from this cycle; now the hard part, retaining the weight during and after PCT. Finishing up last week of cycle and PCT is about to start next week.

I managed to get my hands of igf-1 lr3 and MGF and wanted advice on how to stack them. There is a lot of conflicting data on many forums that it is hard to say which theory will yield the best results. I also plan to stack the CJC 1295 and GHRP-2 as well but need help on that as well since I am incorporating the MGF and IGF-1 lr3 into PCT. I also pasted the cycle recommended from http://www.trainwiser.com/f1501/igf-mgf-protocol-3874/ they state these formats but from what i have read from this form is that the dosages do vary and the timing as well. I also have not found clear details on how to cycle off MGF.

There are also conflicting theories that state that MGF should be injected preworkout and IGF-1 lr3 should be injected post cycle. Can anybody clarify this?

IGF-1 lr3 is cycled off every 5-6 weeks. I do not have PEG MGF at this time, only MGF. Help would truly be appreciated here.

I need to up my calories as well; if you guys can give me tips to what i should add or subtract to my current diet would be truly appreciated. Keep in mind that i am carb sensitive and when i pass the 250 g of carbs a day, I gain fat in my mid-section. My cycle and diet are pasted here for your information and critique. Want to up the calories between 3,500- 4,000 calories to keep gaining weight. Help would be greatly appreciated here.

Thanks for all your time bros and sorry for the long post.

Current cycle:

Weeks 1-12: 500mg/wk Sustanon (Monday-Thursday 250mg)
Weeks 1-3: M-drol 20 mg each day
Weeks 4: M-drol 30 mg each day
Weeks 10: 30mg/day Epistane
Weeks 11-13: 40 mg/day Epistane
Weeks 14: 50 mg/day Epistane
Weeks 4-10: 200iu (20 Mark on Insulin Syringe Right?) HCG Every Third Day
Weeks 1-12: 0.5-1.0mg/Everyday Arimidex

Cycle Support Supplements:Weeks 1-15: 1000 mg/day hawthorn berry
Weeks 1-15: 2 caps of Himalaya Liver Care (U.S. Version of of Liv.52)

PCTWeek 15: 40mg Nolva, 100mg Clomid
Week 16: 40mg Nolva, 50mg Clomid
Week 17: 20mg Nolva, 50mg Clomid
Week 18: 20mg Nolva

After Cycle and During PCT:
Peptides:
CJC 1295 100mcg Three a day (morning, after workout, before bed)
GHRP-2 100mcg Three a day (morning, after workout, before bed)
MGF ?
IGF-1 lr3 ?

Diet:

Upon Waking
8 oz orange juice = 110 calories ... 2 g protein ... 25 g carbs ... 0 g fat

Meal 1 8:00 am
6 eggs whites = 102 calories ... 24 g protein ... 0 g carbs ... 0 g fat
1 whole egg = 60 calories ... 5 g protein ... 0 g carbs ... 0 g fat
1/2 cup oatmeal = 150 calories ... 6 g protein ... 27 g carbs ... 2.5 g fat

Meal 2 10:00 am
1 scoop of whey protein = 100 calories ... 24 g protein ... 1 g carbs ... 0 g fat
2 tbsp natural peanut butter = 190 calories ... 7 g protein ... 6 g carbs ... 17 g fat
1/2 cup oatmeal = 150 calories ... 6 g protein ... 27 g carbs ... 2.5 g fat

Meal 3 1:00 pm
8 oz chicken breast = 240 calories ... 44 g protein ... 0 g carbs ... 6 g fat
Broccoli 4 oz = 30 calories ... 1 g protein ... 5 g carbs ... 0 g fat
Brown Rice 1/2 cup = 175 calories ... 4 g protein .. 39 g carbs ... 0 g fat

Meal 4 3:00 pm
20 almonds raw = 139 calories ... 5 g protein ... 5 g carbs ... 12 g fat
1 scoop of whey protein = 100 calories ... 24 g protein ... 1 g carbs ... 0 g fat
Whole Wheat bread 1 slice = 100 calories ... 5 g protein ... 20 g carbs ... 1 g fat


Meal 5: 5:30 pm Post Workout
1 scoop of whey protein = 100 calories ... 24 g protein ... 1 g carbs ... 0 g fat
8 oz grapefruit juice = 100 calories ... 1 g protein ... 21 g carbs ... 0 g fat

Meal 6 6:00 pm
8 oz chicken breast = 240 calories ... 44 g protein ... 0 g carbs ... 6 g fat
Broccoli 3/4 cup = 30 calories ... 1 g protein ... 5 g carbs ... 0 g fat
Brown Rice 1/2 cup = 175 calories ... 4 g protein ... 39 g carbs ... 0 g fat
1 Tbsp Olive Oil = 120 calories ... 0 g protein ... 2 g carbs ... 14 g fat

Meal 7 8:30 pm
Brown Rice 1/2 cup = 175 calories ... 4 g protein ... 39 g carbs ... 0 g fat
Tuna 5 oz can = 100 calories .. 22 g protein ... 0 g carbs ... 1 g fat

Meal 8 10:00 pm
2 scoop of protein casein = 250 calories ... 44 g protein ... 12 g carbs ... 4 g fat
1/2 cottage cheese = 90 calories ... 14 g protein ... 5 g carbs ... 2 g fat
20 almonds raw = 139 calories ... 5 g protein ... 5 g carbs ... 12 g fat

Calorie Total = 3,123 calories ... 345 g protein ... 181 g carbs ... 124 g fat


Peptides Suggestion Stacks:

Version One:

Sunday - Off Training
Monday - Training (afternoon) - 1hr PWO MGF 50mcg in muscles trained
Tuesday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg
Wednesday - Training (Afternoon) - 1hr PWO MGF 50mcg in muscles trained
Thursday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg
Friday - Training (Afternoon) - 1hr PWO MGF 50mcg in muscles trained
Saturday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg

Version Two:

Sunday - Off Training
Monday - Training (afternoon) - 1hr PWO MGF 200mcg in muscles trained
Tuesday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg
Wednesday - Training (Afternoon) - 1hr PWO MGF 200mcg in muscles trained
Thursday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg
Friday - Training (Afternoon) - 1hr PWO MGF 200mcg in muscles trained
Saturday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80mcg

Version Three:

Assuming a 4 day per week workout schedule on M-T and Th-F:

Day 1: 150mg PEG-MGF 1-2 hours before lifting
Day 2: 10mcg-20mcg LR3 IGF -1 PWO
Day 3: None
Day 4: 10mcg-20mcg LR3 IGF -1 Before Breakfast
Day 5: 150mg PEG-MGF 1-2 hours before lifting
Day 6: 10mcg-20mcg LR3 IGF -1
Day 7: None

 

[gymrat827]

igf1lr3- 100mcg 4x a wk, sub q. eat fast/slow carbs every 3hrs for 15hrs post pin. IDK about the PEG MGF tho??

 

[enoc09]

After doing more research, I finally found what cycle lengths are recommended for MGF and IGF-1 lr3. I will do the following for about 6-8 week. As for the CJC 1295 and GJRP-2, I will run then 3x a day, everyday (M-Su). I will log my results as often as I can. I know Datbtrue states that injecting yourself like a pin cushion will field better results but that is a lot of stabbing for one day. Wish me luck bros.

Peptide Cycle

Sunday - Off Training
Monday - Training (afternoon) - 1hr Post Workout MGF 200 mcg in muscles trained
Tuesday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80 mcg
Wednesday - Training (Afternoon) - 1hr Post Workout MGF 200 mcg in muscles trained
Thursday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80 mcg
Friday - Training (Afternoon) - 1hr Post Workout MGF 200 mcg in muscles trained
Saturday - Off Training - Afternoon IGF 40-80 mcg
CJC 1295 – 100 mcg Three a day (morning, afternoon, before bed)
GHRP-2 – 100 mcg Three a day (morning, afternoon, before bed)

The following link describes how to use MGF and draw conclusions for yourselves.

http://www.costapowerfitness.com/mechano-growth-factor-mgf-peptides.html

 

[MattPorter]

Terrible cycle first off -- 2 methylated products back to back....ouch.

I have my doubts about mgf but if you ran it I would suggest running it on OPPOSITE days of your igf-1 shots.

Igf-1 will initiate differentiation while mgf will augment proliferation in myoblasts...

mgf split dosed into micro shots in a sectional part of the muscle trained (4 shots per muscle) ----same w/igf-1

It's a real hassle and you never know truly the quality of your research peptides as IGF-1 should NOT be lower than 200 per mg.

-Matt