Cycle combinations

Jebrook

Jebrook

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Hey guys I would like some opinions to help me plan my next cycle. My primary goal during the cycle will be adding as much lean mass as possible with an extra focus on deltoid development. I am considering following The Growth Factor Shoulder Training program. Strength is not a driving factor. Just adding overall lean mass, especially to the delts and traps. Please suggest any shoulder specific programs or tips that have worked for you and also suggest which combo of the following ph/ds would best suit this goal. I am looking at a 6 week cycle possibly 8 if mild. I have decades of training and diet knowledge and several novice cycles under my belt. Nothing crazy stack wise, please. Thanks bros.

Available Options:
Msten
DMZ 2 & 3
Epistane
Halo
Trest
Dermatrest
Triumph
Alpha 1
4 Andro
Formeron
Tren
Dimethadrol
I know it's a ton of options and my mind is blown. Help me narrow it down please. I have tried half of these before.
 
Lean mass I like msten and tren. Trest is an option but estro control is a problem for a lot so the Mass isn't as dry or lean. How long since your last cycle or methyl ?
 
Gotta agree that from what I've seen around, msten is def a top choice. Dmz would right there as well.

I've personally run trest (though I ran IM) and epi and it was the best cycle I've ever run. The estro sides from the trest can be a pain, but it's not a "wet" compound either. I kept every ounce of strength and mass I built and actually continued to add both through 8+ weeks post cycle.
 
How bout just for developing the rounded shoulder like look. My posterior and medial delts are very flat and lagging behind the anterior delts. You think Msten and Tren then? Anything else that I don't have listed that I should consider?
 
Axis labs hemodraulix. It's like a pump product and ara product combined. I used it when arms and upper chest were lagging combined with very high reps and drop sets it kind of felt like it really stretched out the muscle group and helped them grow
 
It's very interesting. Would you do that while on cycle or no? Only on shoulder days to avoid tolerance issues?
 
Jebrook said:
It's very interesting. Would you do that while on cycle or no? Only on shoulder days to avoid tolerance issues?
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I believe directions say 4x a week if I remember I would use it on cycle an off .

I would also do shoulders 2x a week one workout focusing on side delts and one focusing on rear delts
 
Cheapest I found on a quick search is 29.99. That's pretty pricey for only 16 servings. Know a cheap place to order it? If I only used on shoulder days and trained them 2-3 times a week I guess it would last 5-8 weeks. That's not so bad.
 
Jebrook said:
Cheapest I found on a quick search is 29.99. That's pretty pricey for only 16 servings. Know a cheap place to order it? If I only used on shoulder days and trained them 2-3 times a week I guess it would last 5-8 weeks. That's not so bad.
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At the recommended 4x a week a bottle will last you a month. 30 bucks for a month supply is pretty good x gels cost like 40 bucks for a 25 day supply
 
mixedup said:
Lean mass I like msten and tren. Trest is an option but estro control is a problem for a lot so the Mass isn't as dry or lean. How long since your last cycle or methyl ?
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9 weeks since a 4 week Msten. Bloods are great. Started logging 1 andro product for a month then bridging into whatever I settle on out of these options. Have enough to run at any dosage and length I decide on. Figured 6 weeks for a 10 week cycle total.
 
If bloodwork is good and you have enough of each I would do
msten at 30mg and tren at 120mg

I would go 9 weeks so you have an overlap one week give the msten and tren a week to start working while the andro is in full effect
 
Halo/trest sounds nasty. Halo gives me great strength and trest gives me all the motivation in the world. I would use the formastane with it as well
 
yates84 said:
Halo/trest sounds nasty. Halo gives me great strength and trest gives me all the motivation in the world. I would use the formastane with it as well
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Please don't give him advice like this. You and I both know that Halo is nonsense and Trest will not produce any gains. Jebrook, I don't want you to have to suffer from those two compounds so I will happily dispose of them for you. PM me for disposal details. :)
 
DMZ, Halo, Tren, or Epi, Msten...make a combo out of one of those, but throw in the tren on whatever you pick.
 
Toren said:
Please don't give him advice like this. You and I both know that Halo is nonsense and Trest will not produce any gains. Jebrook, I don't want you to have to suffer from those two compounds so I will happily dispose of them for you. PM me for disposal details. :)
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Hahaha!
 
mixedup said:
Axis labs hemodraulix. It's like a pump product and ara product combined. I used it when arms and upper chest were lagging combined with very high reps and drop sets it kind of felt like it really stretched out the muscle group and helped them grow
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I found Hemodraulix for 24.99 on Advantage supplements. Gonna pick up two bottles and give it a shot. Thanks mixedup!
 
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