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Shooter06

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I did a lot of research and just want some input on my over all cycle and pct
thanks


My stats
age 23
height 6 foot
weight 178
body fat 6%

Week 1-2

AI life support
Week 3
Organ Shield
Epi 30mg
Liv 52
Week 4-8
Organ Shield
Epi 40mg
Liv 52
Week 9-10
Nolva 40mg day 1-3 then 20mg
AI life support
DS LeanXtreme
Creatine 7.5g
Need2Slin
Week 11-12
Nolva 10mg
DS LeanXtreme
Creatine 5g
Need2Slin
D-pol 4 tabs
Week 13-14
Nolva 5mg
Nolvadren XT 2 tabs
D-pol 4 tabs
Week 15-16
Nolvadren XT 2 tabs
 
To tired to ****ing remember stuff lol I'm taking lunch at 12 am... you have a AI in pct? I think you do. Also taurine 5g everyday sir for da back pumps

Just go 20/20/10/10 with the Nolva
Otherwise have fun lol
 
It may help me out if I knew your goal but a few things seem a little off. Why the addition of weight loss supplements during pct, one of the main reasons for pct is to solidify what you gained. Epi is pretty dry as it is and if you are actually already at 6% bf I don't see the point in using weight loss supplements. I also recommend starting DAA at the beginning of pct and your AI starting week 3 of pct.

Lastly the way you formatted your cycle it is not user friendly to follow. No biggy but the way you laid it out I feel like I'm missing something.....Example of a better way to lay it out for us:

Epi 30/30/30/40/40/40

Pct
Nolva 40/40/20/20
DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g

Ok let's touch on the 6% bf again. If you have come to the decision to run a cycle because you are struggling to build mass I would guess it's a diet issue. Although you may have a decent looking cycle it will be totally pointless to put your body through this punishment if you don't eat enough food. Diet is one of the biggest 1st cycle mistakes people make.
 
Ahhhh, now this is refreshing. Someone who did some homework. Support supps and all. I am going to let you know that although Epi has a good reputation for being 'gentler' on lipids/liver, 8 weeks is rough, even with your responsible dosage.
8 weeks on any methyl is gonna be tough.
I'll bet you cut it short at 6 anyways once you've gotten the most out of it and are sick of the sides.

Good luck and Godspeed.
 
macdady said:
To tired to ****ing remember stuff lol I'm taking lunch at 12 am... you have a AI in pct? I think you do. Also taurine 5g everyday sir for da back pumps

Just go 20/20/10/10 with the Nolva
Otherwise have fun lol
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That was some weak ass advice! mac You must be tired lmao. Yes he has an AI but his layout is hard to follow especially if you are half asleep.

OP, taurine would be a good add. That being said not everyone gets back pumps with epi but you don't want to find out the hard way that you need it. For me m-sten and dmz give me crazy back pumps but epi does not.
 
Matthersby said:
Ahhhh, now this is refreshing. Someone who did some homework. Support supps and all. I am going to let you know that although Epi has a good reputation for being 'gentler' on lipids/liver, 8 weeks is rough, even with your responsible dosage.
8 weeks on any methyl is gonna be tough.
I'll bet you cut it short at 6 anyways once you've gotten the most out of it and are sick of the sides.

Good luck and Godspeed.
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X2. Agreed for a first run I would plan on stopping at 6 weeks
 
rphash49 said:
That was some weak ass advice! mac You must be tired lmao. Yes he has an AI but his layout is hard to follow especially if you are half asleep.

OP, taurine would be a good add. That being said not everyone gets back pumps with epi but you don't want to find out the hard way that you need it. For me m-sten and dmz give me crazy back pumps but epi does not.
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Haha I know. Probably shouldn't be on here giving advise after 18 hours of work
****ing weight loss supplies in pct deft didn't see that lol.
 
Shooter06 said:
I did a lot of research and just want some input on my over all cycle and pct
thanks

My stats
age 23
height 6 foot
weight 178
body fat 6%

Week 1-2

AI life support
Week 3
Organ Shield
Epi 30mg
Liv 52
Week 4-8
Organ Shield
Epi 40mg
Liv 52
Week 9-10
Nolva 40mg day 1-3 then 20mg
AI life support
DS LeanXtreme
Creatine 7.5g
Need2Slin
Week 11-12
Nolva 10mg
DS LeanXtreme
Creatine 5g
Need2Slin
D-pol 4 tabs
Week 13-14
Nolva 5mg
Nolvadren XT 2 tabs
D-pol 4 tabs
Week 15-16
Nolvadren XT 2 tabs
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I should warn you nolvadex does nothing to restore hpta function. Dan duccaine whom was the first to recommend nolvadex even said this. He also said it was a crummy drug that's only purpose was to help fight gyno and that he advised that when something better was discovered to use that instead. Well that something better does exist in the form of aromasin, formestane and arimistane and any of the following are a much better alternative to nolvadex.

Also your pct is not really all that great and is incomplete in my opinion. I would advise you do the following.

- 4 weeks of torem 90/60/60/30 or clomid 50/25/25/25 (this is your serm)
- 4 weeks of blue up by controlled labs or unleashed by protein factory (these will boost free test due to the ingredient avenacosoides)
- 4 weeks of recycle by purus labs or post cycle by protein factory (this is for libido support/ test boosting)
- 4 weeks of erase by pes (75mg) or transdermal formestane (100mg) (this is your mild ai for pct)
- 4 weeks of d-aspartic acid 3g ed (this has been shown to boost test by 40% in men over 60 and in pct you fall into this category)
 
infraredline said:
I should warn you nolvadex does nothing to restore hpta function. Dan duccaine whom was the first to recommend nolvadex even said this. He also said it was a crummy drug that's only purpose was to help fight gyno and that he advised that when something better was discovered to use that instead. Well that something better does exist in the form of aromasin, formestane and arimistane and any of the following are a much better alternative to nolvadex.

Also your pct is not really all that great and is incomplete in my opinion. I would advise you do the following.

- 4 weeks of torem 90/60/60/30 or clomid 50/25/25/25 (this is your serm)
- 4 weeks of blue up by controlled labs or unleashed by protein factory (these will boost free test due to the ingredient avenacosoides)
- 4 weeks of recycle by purus labs or post cycle by protein factory (this is for libido support/ test boosting)
- 4 weeks of erase by pes (75mg) or transdermal formestane (100mg) (this is your mild ai for pct)
- 4 weeks of d-aspartic acid 3g ed (this has been shown to boost test by 40% in men over 60 and in pct you fall into this category)
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I'd like to see some Pudding on that nolva statement
 
Dan duchaine was the MAN!! so if he said it? It's so. I don't recall him saying it...but if there is any proof then it's gospel :D
 
Here is a thread with the quote in it: Invalid Link Removed

You will have to forgive me as I was not able to find the original link
 
There is good research supporting Nolva being inferior to every other SERM. I loved crying in the shower but restoring my natty test to mid 800s with Clomid.... But once you find Torem, all others will suck it in comparison.
 
Matthersby said:
There is good research supporting Nolva being inferior to every other SERM. I loved crying in the shower but restoring my natty test to mid 800s with Clomid.... But once you find Torem, all others will suck it in comparison.
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Only tried torem so..... woohoo!
 
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