Cycle advice

[BendTheBar95]

about to run test 400 and tren ace 200 to finish up a bulking/cutting cycle have winstrol and deca to finish up along with some other compound’s such as pharma Qo’s fastrip, and superbolan I have adex and caber on hand as well.

 

[Smont]

What the hell is a bulking/cutting cycle, there 2 completely different things and attempting both on the same cycle is foolish, probably the least optimal way to run a cycle

 

[Smont]

Also your thread is cycle advice but you didn't ask any question

 

[Smont]

And test 400, if it's the actual 400mg/ml stuff it's garbage, and tren ace 200mg/ml would also be garbage full of solvents and most likely synthetic garbage. That's how they fit the high mg into solution. Causes all kinds of systemic inflammation and negative health impacts.

You gotta be more specific because going by the information you provided, and me guessing at what your using and attempting to accomplish. My advice would be throw that garbage in the trash, do some research on optimal strategies for bulking and cutting. And then go purchase better quality gear and attempting either a proper bulk or proper cut.

How old, how many cycles have you previously done, how low is your current bodyfat.

All very relevant things if you want the right advice and ppl to not assume things

 

[Nac]

Yeah this is all a bit confusing. You say you are finishing up with test and tren and you have winstrol and deca to finish up with...and bulking then cutting back to back? Why not bulk then drop to maintanence and recomp?

If youre bulking, so eating at say 300kcal surplus, then cut at a typical 500kcal deficit then thats an 800kcal decrease straight away. Probably not wise.

 

[Smont]

Yeah this is all a bit confusing. You say you are finishing up with test and tren and you have winstrol and deca to finish up with...and bulking then cutting back to back? Why not bulk then drop to maintanence and recomp?

If youre bulking, so eating at say 300kcal surplus, then cut at a typical 500kcal deficit then thats an 800kcal decrease straight away. Probably not wise.

Yep, when you attempt to cut immediately after bulking, the only thing you end up cutting is the newly added muscle. And when you take into consideration that your not going to add more then 1lb of muscle per week and even that's a stretch unless it's your first or second cycle. Say you bulk for 10 weeks and gain 25lbs, realistically it's probably 3/4 water and fuel storage. So you gained like 6-7lbs of actual muscle, now you gotta cut and your body has not even had a chance to realize that's your new size. It's gonna dissapear fairly quickly. Again, unless it's like your first cycle. And if it is, get tren and deca out of mind

 

[klbsa]

If you are gonna shoot T400 be sure to warm the oil up really well before injecting….. That stuff causes PIP like no other (speaking from experience). If you are just using regular 200 mg/ml test then never mind.

if you are shooting that much gear I wouldn’t worry much about cutting at the moment….. As long as you are eating a fairly normal amount of high protein & CLEAN calories (3000-4000 or so) you should be able to gain muscle/blood and burn fat at the same time…… Provided you are doing some cardio during the week too (which IMO everyone on gear should do to help regulate blood pressure).

 

[Smont]

If you are gonna shoot T400 be sure to warm the oil up really well before injecting….. That stuff causes PIP like no other (speaking from experience). If you are just using regular 200 mg/ml test then never mind.

if you are shooting that much gear I wouldn’t worry much about cutting at the moment….. As long as you are eating a fairly normal amount of high protein & CLEAN calories (3000-4000 or so) you should be able to gain muscle/blood and burn fat at the same time…… Provided you are doing some cardio during the week too (which IMO everyone on gear should do to help regulate blood pressure).

The reason why it hurts is because of all the toxic chemicals and solvents they put in it to fit such a high milligram count

 

[Smont]

For anyone interested, go run t400 or higher for 10 weeks and draw bloods and look at your c reactive protein score, systemic inflammation will be through the roof in most if not all cases