Cycle Advice

Methylated88

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Hey guys, im new to the forums although ive been stalking for a while.
So today I need some advice for an upcoming cycle. Ive only ever used Methylated phs and so am a little apprehensive about trying something new. Id like to try a tren product but dont know what I really need to control prolactin or the tren side effects.
My goals are lean mass first and strength second. Try not to flame too hard as I am new to the forums.
My last cycle was msten standalone run at 28 mg for 5 weeks. It was a dirty bulk lol.
Im 5'8"
190lbs in the mornings
About 14-15 percent bf
And 26 years old
Here is what I had in mind...

Week 1-4
Nano Mithras 25/25/25/25
Dienazone? ?/?/?/?
TUDCA 2g/2g/2g/2g
Blockade ran at recommended dosage

PCT Weeks 5-10
Tamox 30/20/15/10/0
Pes Erase Pro 0/0/0/1/1 (1 pill)
All in one pct 4 caps daily all 5 weeks
 
Tren dosage at 90mg. I'd also look into a test base as well, like test, trest, stano, or my personal favorite bps dermacrine, as lethargy and libido might be a bit shaky on this.
 
Thank you. The BPS looks awesome. Great reviews too! Will it be enough to control prolactin? Or is prolactin related to estrogen levels?

Also, my diet will be pretty set in stone. Looking at drinking a gallon of milk daily along with eating a dozen whole eggs. Thats not all but its where most of my kcals will come from.
Im vegetarian so constipation is no issue lol.
4000kcals and 300g protein per day is my goal.
 
Methylated88 said:
Thank you. The BPS looks awesome. Great reviews too! Will it be enough to control prolactin? Or is prolactin related to estrogen levels? Also, my diet will be pretty set in stone. Looking at drinking a gallon of milk daily along with eating a dozen whole eggs. Thats not all but its where most of my kcals will come from. Im vegetarian so constipation is no issue lol. 4000kcals and 300g protein per day is my goal.
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No problem :) It doesn't effect prolactin. You will want some inhibit p or caber for prevention of prolactin. Tren messes with prolactin receptors.

Wow, lol. That is a **** ton of food/drink.
 
It seems like it but I eat all day. Grazing actually. Plus, theres a store right next door to me that sells milk for 1.75/gal and 1 dozen eggs for like .75 lol. I keep their stock fresh!

Ive heard of inhibit p. When you say "messes with prolactin receptors" how do you mean?
 
Methylated88 said:
It seems like it but I eat all day. Grazing actually. Plus, theres a store right next door to me that sells milk for 1.75/gal and 1 dozen eggs for like .75 lol. I keep their stock fresh! Ive heard of inhibit p. When you say "messes with prolactin receptors" how do you mean?
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Lol damn that is cheap.. As in it could make you lactate if you don't run something to block the prolactin issues. And from my information once it starts the actual pores never leave, but don't quote me on that.
 
Methylated88 said:
Wow.. So my next question is, caber versus inhibit for the p control. Never used caber or even heard of it.
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I'd just stick with inhibit p, caber is some good stuff, but inhibit will get the job done here.

Methylated88 said:
After looking at dermacrine a bit, I wonder; do I run it on cycle or during pct? Or both?
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Personally I'd run it during cycle only, because you want to recover without anything else going on
 
Roger! Ill definitely be adding dermacrine to my stack.

In your opinion, would tren or nano halo be better for my goals in this stack? I know tren imparts serious strength but halo is more mass building..?
 
Methylated88 said:
Roger! Ill definitely be adding dermacrine to my stack. In your opinion, would tren or nano halo be better for my goals in this stack? I know tren imparts serious strength but halo is more mass building..?
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What was your goal? Tren is for strength, but it also can put on a good amount of size. No one got big lifting light weights, strength indirectly leads to hypertrophy IMO. I wouldn't even say halo is a mass builder per say either..
 
Methylated88 said:
Hey guys, im new to the forums although ive been stalking for a while.
So today I need some advice for an upcoming cycle. Ive only ever used Methylated phs and so am a little apprehensive about trying something new. Id like to try a tren product but dont know what I really need to control prolactin or the tren side effects.
My goals are lean mass first and strength second. Try not to flame too hard as I am new to the forums.
My last cycle was msten standalone run at 28 mg for 5 weeks. It was a dirty bulk lol.
Im 5'8"
190lbs in the mornings
About 14-15 percent bf
And 26 years old
Here is what I had in mind...

Week 1-4
Nano Mithras 25/25/25/25
Dienazone? ?/?/?/?
TUDCA 2g/2g/2g/2g
Blockade ran at recommended dosage

PCT Weeks 5-10
Tamox 30/20/15/10/0
Pes Erase Pro 0/0/0/1/1 (1 pill)
All in one pct 4 caps daily all 5 weeks
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test 500mg ew for 12-14 wks + AI + PCT
 
Honestly im not wanting to get that deep. Methylated phs have gotten me this far and id like to kinda stick with what I know. For now anyway.
 
Nano mithras 1ml/1/1/1/1/1/1/1
Dermacrine 3 pumps/3/3/3/3/3/3/3
Lgi Damage control max dose throughout

Or dmz 4 weeks and then mithras 4 weeks.

So ive decided to increase my cycle length to eight weeks. But im torn between two options. Take a look and critique as you wish.
 
Abe Lincoln said:
What was your goal? Tren is for strength, but it also can put on a good amount of size. No one got big lifting light weights, strength indirectly leads to hypertrophy IMO. I wouldn't even say halo is a mass builder per say either..
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Actually plenty of people have gotten big lifting light weights. Hypertrophy has a lot to do with TUT which can be accomplished with higher reps at a lighter weight. Some of the biggest people I know aren't very strong at all because they lift for hypertrophy rather than brute strength.
 
xhrr said:
Actually plenty of people have gotten big lifting light weights. Hypertrophy has a lot to do with TUT which can be accomplished with higher reps at a lighter weight. Some of the biggest people I know aren't very strong at all because they lift for hypertrophy rather than brute strength.
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Well it was a joke haha. You have never heard of that? Everyone wants the gains, but none of the work. Pretty much grave digging lol
 
Abe Lincoln said:
Well it was a joke haha. You have never heard of that? Everyone wants the gains, but none of the work. Pretty much grave digging lol
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Haha my bad I thought you were serious. I probably should have given you the benefit of the doubt as I see you post quite frequently and seem to have a good grasp of things
 
Gonna start my log within the month. Decided to do an 8 week run of nano mithras. Solo. Aside from dermacrine . See you all then!
 
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