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Cycle Advice Needed - Test Prop/Var

rdvazira

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So, this is my first post on this board, and of course its a question. I've been reading here for years, but still do not feel I have the personal experience to accurately give information back and tell someone else what to do.

Here is my cycle, let me know what you think or if anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'd definitely appreciate all of them.
[TABLE="class: grid, width: 500, align: center"]
[TR]
[TD]Week[/TD]
[TD]Compound[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1-10[/TD]
[TD]Test Prop 100 MG EOD[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5-10[/TD]
[TD]Anavar 60 MG ED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1-10[/TD]
[TD]Nolvadex 10-20 MG ED (Depends on nipple itchiness)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1-10[/TD]
[TD]Arimidex .5 MG ED
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1-10[/TD]
[TD]HCG 250 IU Every 4 Days[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

For support supps I'm going to use Anabolic Innovations Cycle support, Liv 52, and the obvious protein and BCAA's. My diet is probably about 50% Protein, 30% Fat, 20% Carbs. I'm planning to up the carbs during weeks 1-4, and carb-cycle weeks 5-10.

For PCT I'm still not sure if I should run Toremifene or Nolvadex, so input on that would be helpful. I will run 1 MG ED arimidex for the first week, .5 MG ED arimidex ED for weeks 2-4, then taper off.

As for experience, I have run several PH cycles, including 3-AD, superdrol, and halodrol, plus I have run two anavar only cycles. On each cycle I had great results until about 80% of the way through when everything shut down and started going haywire, so that's why this time I'm adding in the Test. Yes, this is my first time on the pin.

My stats:
32 yrs old
5' 5"
172 lbs.
~18% BF

I have been lifting for well over ten years, with breaks of course, but about 3 years in this last stretch. This cycle I'm looking to add maybe 5 - 10 lbs of LEAN weight while dropping down to maybe 12 - 13% BF. Been eating clean and going hard with the cardio for over two months now aiming for the summer, but I know my body and right about now is when I start getting catabolic and lose muscle as well as fat, and skinny is NOT what I'm going for.

Again, if anyone has any suggestions I'd really appreciate it. Also, possibly thinking of switching out the Var for Winny (IM not oral).
 
Why Nolva during cycle and not on PCT? Just wondering...I thought PCT for a test cyle should start 1 to 2 weeks after you are off test (since it stays in you) and you DON'T run a SERM while on cycle...thought I should ask...
 
Celorza said:
Why Nolva during cycle and not on PCT? Just wondering...I thought PCT for a test cyle should start 1 to 2 weeks after you are off test (since it stays in you) and you DON'T run a SERM while on cycle...thought I should ask...

You can run Novla during cycle at a low dose to control estrogen. It's fairly common with people who are pron to gyno.
 
Nolva doesn't do any thing for estrogen.

Thats what I thought...If he is concerned about gyno shoulnd't he run low dose Letro during cycle? or maybe just an AI like Arimadiex at .5mg EOD?
 
jbryand101b said:
Nolva doesn't do any thing for estrogen.

So why is it used? I thought it was used as a suicide agent
 
I think u should get your bf down first bro. Don't run nolva on cycle and .5mg of arimidex ED is too much on cycle unless you're really estrogen sensitive.
 
Celorza said:
Thats what I thought...If he is concerned about gyno shoulnd't he run low dose Letro during cycle? or maybe just an AI like Arimadiex at .5mg EOD?

W/e will help him control estrogen the easiest without destroying it.
 
I think u should get your bf down first bro. Don't run nolva on cycle and .5mg of arimidex ED is too much on cycle unless you're really estrogen sensitive.

W/e will help him control estrogen the easiest without destroying it.

Hm...I think I finally got it kinda right then :p thanks JB and Dr for chiming in hehe
 
Celorza said:
Hm...I think I finally got it kinda right then :p thanks JB and Dr for chiming in hehe

Pct for Test Prop will start 3 days after the last injection because its half life too.
 
jbryand101b said:
Nolva doesn't do any thing for estrogen.

It says it is an antagonist of the estrogen receptor, so it occupies the receptor. That would be doing something for estrogen, it's rendering it useless.
 
Pct for Test Prop will start 3 days after the last injection because its half life too.

Oh yeah its Prop after all...hm true , its Test-e that lasts a bit in your system right?
 
Yeah, I'm VERY prone to gyno...so much so that sometimes even completely off cycle my nips get itchy and I'm pretty sure its not chafing! Not using the nolva to control estrogen though. That's what the Arimidex is for. I'm just tryin to keep the man boobs at bay!
 
csa2179 said:
It says it is an antagonist of the estrogen receptor, so it occupies the receptor. That would be doing something for estrogen, it's rendering it useless.

No that would be a receptor agonist. It doesn't permanently bind to the receptor.

An aromatase inhibitor would do something to prevent estrogen.
And in nolvas case, out is selective to beast tissue, so estrogen is still free to work else where.
 
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