Cutting with MOHN

BryanM

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Im going to run a cutter with just 32mgs MOHN for 6 weeks.

I need to loose around 14 pounds of fat to drop to 7 % or so.

I figure if I do 45-60mins of low intensity cardio at 65% of Max HRT rate 4-5 times weekly I can loose around 2-3 pounds of Bodyfat?

Is this doseage enough to keep all LBM my goal is to retain LBM while strictly lossing fat.

Or should I add some 4ad or 1 test in there?

Is MOHN strong enough to keep the body anabolic even if CLEN is cycled?
 
You could run it with 1-t and lose fat. Running it with 4ad would be no good if you are cutting, it will bloat you.
 
That's an ambitious goal on M4OHN alone. I would say add 1T , I don't think M4OHN alone is quite strong enough to cut and preserve to this degree.
 
i agree w/ the above. the 1-test should be strong enough to help you cut aggressively as you want. I plan on cutting w/ 1-test cyp/mohn myself come april
 
Ill have some 1 test cyp left enough for 6 weeks at 500mg I know its not that much at all but ill have it laying around.

Now the cycle im on right now took 4-5 weeks just to kick in and ill only have 6 weeks would this work enough even though it isnt fully kicked in yet?

Or should I go with a dermal 1 test?
 
get clen and t3- just incase
m5aa- I took it for a day or two- extreme well being- long workouts and hoisted alot of metal, man

but yeah 1-test is always a good retainer without bloat,

but then again, ive never used it- so I can only go by hear say'
 
although because of the extremely cheap price of mohn right now, it is a great product to stock up on. I would like to see a log of someone running it by itself at a higher dosage.
 
BryanM said:
Im going to run a cutter with just 32mgs MOHN for 6 weeks.

I need to loose around 14 pounds of fat to drop to 7 % or so.

I figure if I do 45-60mins of low intensity cardio at 65% of Max HRT rate 4-5 times weekly I can loose around 2-3 pounds of Bodyfat?

Is this doseage enough to keep all LBM my goal is to retain LBM while strictly lossing fat.

Or should I add some 4ad or 1 test in there?

Is MOHN strong enough to keep the body anabolic even if CLEN is cycled?
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this is pretty intriguing....my thoughts:

first, clen isnt catabolic.

with all that cardio, clen and cutting PH use - you will need to keep cals up to avoid catabolism from energy expenditure. especially on a 6-week cycle. it's very hard to lose ONLY fat, so with the 14lbs (which sounds arbitrary unless you were a competitive boxer or wrestler) of weight lost, 4 might be muscle.

MOHN solo might not be a bad idea here. 1-T optional if you can stand the sides without 4-ad. for REAL muscle preservation, go 1-T with maybe 4-OHT (and i have posted elsewhere, 4-ad would be ok with an AI to control bloat/estrogen) or i might kick in MDHT or plenty of M5 (not after 7 or 8PM) as these ARE methyls but not very toxic ones.

personally, for a reasonably safe all-out cutter, MOHN for 6 weeks with clen the first 2 and last 2. keep cals at maintenance (maybe up protein and drop carbs if that suits you) - then optionally MDHT for 2 weeks. this is an economical approach too.

had another thought - on a cutter utilizing clen, the lethargy associated with 1-T would be negated. if you could keep libido up (again, maybe 4OHT or MDHT which has libido-enhancing effects), then you'd be good to go....except those middle 2 weeks where you'll be clen-less. maybe cycle ECA then.
 
i would highly recc using a 1-t trans with it, that was actually my favortie cycle. 32mg m-4ohn/400mg 1-t, it produced a great lean look, hardness, strength and vascularity were all way up. and if your diet and cardio are in check, havin the clen in there will ensure loss of fat.
 
BryanM said:
Im going to run a cutter with just 32mgs MOHN for 6 weeks.

I need to loose around 14 pounds of fat to drop to 7 % or so.

I figure if I do 45-60mins of low intensity cardio at 65% of Max HRT rate 4-5 times weekly I can loose around 2-3 pounds of Bodyfat?

Is this doseage enough to keep all LBM my goal is to retain LBM while strictly lossing fat.

Or should I add some 4ad or 1 test in there?

Is MOHN strong enough to keep the body anabolic even if CLEN is cycled?
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I think that M4OHN alone IS strong enough to avoid muscle loss. And your dose is good. Unless you are a non-responder.
But a 1-Test trans in addition wouldnt hurt at all and its a great recommendation.

Other option would be 1,4add, but its hard to find and pricey.

Edit: I forgot about 4OHT. Adding it to 1Test would be an excellent idea.
I'd go for a 1:1 ratio, Like 250mg 1-Test and 250 4OHT, transdermal of course.
 
THEBRAKES said:
MOHN solo might not be a bad idea here. 1-T optional if you can stand the sides without 4-ad. for REAL muscle preservation, go 1-T with maybe 4-OHT (and i have posted elsewhere, 4-ad would be ok with an AI to control bloat/estrogen) or i might kick in MDHT or plenty of M5 (not after 7 or 8PM) as these ARE methyls but not very toxic ones.

personally, for a reasonably safe all-out cutter, MOHN for 6 weeks with clen the first 2 and last 2. keep cals at maintenance (maybe up protein and drop carbs if that suits you) - then optionally MDHT for 2 weeks. this is an economical approach too.

had another thought - on a cutter utilizing clen, the lethargy associated with 1-T would be negated. if you could keep libido up (again, maybe 4OHT or MDHT which has libido-enhancing effects), then you'd be good to go....except those middle 2 weeks where you'll be clen-less. maybe cycle ECA then.
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I am stocking to do a MOHN + MDHT cut come Spring, along w/ephedrine+caffeine+possibly nicotine
 
Im just wondering Ive cut before natturally and lost 2 pounds of fat a week with the low intensity cardio.

I lost minimal muscle The thing is im only at 163 or so pounds lbm and would really like to keep it above 160 if possible. Ive never cycled clen before and not to sure if I even need it?

What about the 1 test cyp idea? I have enough for 6 weeks at 500mgs even though it hasnt fully kicked in do you guys think whatever is released into my body will be enough to prevent muscle loss?

Or would a trans 1 test be absolutley nessesary?
 
BryanM said:
Im just wondering Ive cut before natturally and lost 2 pounds of fat a week with the low intensity cardio.

I lost minimal muscle The thing is im only at 163 or so pounds lbm and would really like to keep it above 160 if possible. Ive never cycled clen before and not to sure if I even need it?

What about the 1 test cyp idea? I have enough for 6 weeks at 500mgs even though it hasnt fully kicked in do you guys think whatever is released into my body will be enough to prevent muscle loss?

Or would a trans 1 test be absolutley nessesary?
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I've never messed with MOHN before, but since most people seem to think 32mg would not stave off muscle catabolism, I'm wondering if rather than adding 1-Test, if you upped the dose to say 50-60mg ED if that would be enough to keep your mass?

As for the 1Test Cyp, not sure how effective that would be as it'll take you at least a couple of weeks to get the full effect of the cyp. Also, if you took it the full six weeks, it would take 2 additional weeks for the cyps to leave your body. I think a transdermal or maybe and ethergel would be the way to go.
 
BryanM said:
What about the 1 test cyp idea? I have enough for 6 weeks at 500mgs even though it hasnt fully kicked in do you guys think whatever is released into my body will be enough to prevent muscle loss?

Or would a trans 1 test be absolutley nessesary?
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This is the same thing I'm looking at. I want to cut w/ 600mg/wk and that should give me 6 weeks worth of 1-test cyp, which is about what I have left over. I think I'm going to cut conservatively for 3-4 weeks and then start pinning the 1-test, about a week after I start that I plan to start running MOHN between 35-50mg/day and after 10-14 days I will begin clen/eca/clen for 2/2/2 and run the MOHN for a total of 6-8 weeks, most likely 10-20 days after my last 1-test cyp injection.
 
RobInKuwait said:
I've never messed with MOHN before, but since most people seem to think 32mg would not stave off muscle catabolism, I'm wondering if rather than adding 1-Test, if you upped the dose to say 50-60mg ED if that would be enough to keep your mass?
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Most people? Most people said they needed 30-40mg to bulk.
Seriously, IMO a dose of just 24mg will be enough to avoid catabolism.
 
Well Im thinking that i may not even use the clen Ill see how the first week or 2 goes and then decide. I probably wont achieve this goal its pretty strenuous of a task but I know ill shed at least 10 pounds of fat!!!

Now if I dont(and probably wont) get off as much fat as I want to do I continue to try and shed during pct as well or should i wait after pct to try and avoid muscle loss?
 
I disagree, if you've been cutting during the cycle. Just keep going and maybe add back some cals in pct or drop some cardio and take it very easy in the gym.

You haven't added any new muscle while on cycle, so why would you lose the muscle you already had before the cycle?

Just make sure to do a proper pct, the first 2 weeks are crucial. After that you should be on your way.
 
TheManGuy said:
I disagree, if you've been cutting during the cycle. Just keep going and maybe add back some cals in pct or drop some cardio and take it very easy in the gym.

You haven't added any new muscle while on cycle, so why would you lose the muscle you already had before the cycle?
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Yes, raise the cals and maybe take something to prevent muscle loss like 7-oxo, 7oh, or clen (if you feel like taking the risks).

But he probably would have added a bit of LBM, if the cut wasnt too hard :)
 
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