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Cutting the pain of water-based injects

erokyrwrld

erokyrwrld

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I'm finishing up my cycle with a test suspension/ winstrol combo based in water. The pain is off the charts. Anyway to cut down the pain - I was thinking about adding some additional bac water to the shot - any other ideas?
 
hey bud i was thinking about running the same cycle i'm sorry i can't really help you out with what to cut it with i was hoping that using winny with the suspension together might help or thats what i have been told by my buddys who have done it..but how long have you been running it for and how are your results...hopefully pleasing???
 
I'm at the tail end of a sustanon/eq/various orals cycle. I'm just using this to continue gains until PCT starts in 3 weeks. Damn those long esters.

So far I'm one shot deep and my ass cheek is swollen like a MFer. Suspension is always a favorite of mine, especially right before a workout. The pump feels like adding 5lbs of muscle in an hour :)
 
so are u mixing it with the winny or just doing the test suspension? i'm a fan of the susp cause i just got over gyno problems and i when i have done ph/ds in the past i tend to breakout very badly so i would like to try things that once you stop their out of your system in a few days.

i guess you could try and dilute it more with the bw like some guys do with their igf..might help.

so ur sore and swollen dude that sucks.....
 
u think running test and winny solo for about 5 to 6 weeks would do anything or would i just lose all my gains when i hit pct
 
Hard to say. Suspension puts a lot of water on you fast. But it comes off just as fast. I suppose any gains you make that aren't pure water are keepable, and there should be some given the winstrol in the mix. Six weeks of ed shots seems unbearable to me, especially given my current state, but its probably worth a try.

I'll try mixing in some extra bac water for tonight's shot and let you know if that makes a difference.
 
yah keep me posted on it bud...i was hoping the winny would keep the bloat down along with maybe running some tamox.
 
So far no bloat, but I'm also taking methyl-DHT which is a pure androgen and keep water off like nothing else.

Shot 2, added 1/2cc bac water to 1cc test and 1/2cc winstrol. The extra water must have caused some "crashing" as there was no way to push the last 1/2cc through the 23g pin. Still, there was no pain until this morning, and now its still not bad.
 
thats good news tho right?? u would say this is deff more tolerable to do for your remaining three weeks?
 
yeah, i was wondering if adding more water would throw off the bb/ba/ps80 ratio enought to crash it. Oh well man, is it unbearable painful, or do you think you can make it to the finish line.
 
I ask because I cooked up like 16 grams of test susp powder and I planned on using it for my next cycle, which is in 3 months, so please keep us posted on any changes, or anything that seems to help. I have heard that after a week or 2 the pain starts to lessen, but I haven't personally used Susp. yet. But it makes sense that those crystals would be uncomfortable on the muscles, once the water was gone.
 
i am assuming the crash referers to the seperation of water and powder? what would be a good short term oil based to mix with it? nothing really comes to mind
 
You could run Tren Ace, which has a short halflife of 36 hours, so ED injects are best, making it a good partner inject ED with the SUSP. Nandralone- Phenylprop which is fast acting decca.
 
By crash, I mean some of the suspended powder must be clumping. I can usually push it through a slin pin if I have to, but with added bac water, its clogging a 23g.

The suspension I have is 100mg/mL and the winstrol is 125mg/mL (both are old DPharm vials from 3 years ago). I've been trying to do 1cc of the suspension and 1/2cc of the winstrol.

Usually I tolerate test suspension well, but I've noticed that (no matter what brand) when you get to the last 1/3 of the vial, it gets thicker and more painful. This is due to the pin pulling up mostly carrier and leaving solids behind. So, its almost impossible to accurately dose the suspension, and almost impossible to get 100% out of the vial. I'm always left with a clump of hormone.

I have tried to add bac water, bb, ba and ps80 in the original ratio to the clump and re-suspend it. This works to some extent, but is very, very painful for some reason.
 
some advice

I'm not an expert or very experienced with this stuff but I have recently begun a cycle of winny and have not had as severe pain as you are describing. From what I have read water based shots like winny are more painful and I have experienced slight bruising and soreness but nothing too bad. I am thinking that your problem may be in your injection technique. Rather than cutting with water I would recommend doing some research on how to administer the shot. My friend who is a medical professional administers mine and he finds where two muscles in the buttox bisect and has me lay down. Its a bit awkward but beats the heck out of hurting myself. He says if you do it wrong you may be injecting into your syatic nerve which is extremely painful and will cause swelling. To locate where these to muscles bisect stand up and stand on one leg, take the leg wich no wait is on and rotate your foot out and in and you will feel a slight bulge under the skin approx. 4-6 inches below your waistline and towards the outer side of your ass, this is the "sweet spot":duel:, hope this helps
 
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