Cutting and Inability to Lose Fat

ngen52

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I have continued to have issue losing body fat, specifically around my midsection when cutting. The last cut that I had, I was able to carve out ample definition in all body parts but my stomach. Prior to lifting, I was around 150 lbs and skinny-fat (skinny but still no visible muscle, abdominals, etc) and prior to that, I was a rather chunky kid who started doing distance running to get skinnier.

I'm looking for any advice that can aid me in this endeavor as I begin my cut.

At my last cut, I began at around 215 lbs @ 5'9" and I'd say close to 17%-20% max bodyfat (20% is a little generous on the side of fat). I properly adjusted my macros in the manner outlined by Layne Norton in his article. In addition to doing physical labor in a factory, I trained weights 5 days a week (chest/legs/off-cardio/back/shoulders/arms/off-cardio). On my Off-cardio days, I performed HITT training with car pushes (45 second pushes with a Kia Amanti up a hill 5-10 times). On training days, I did some form of steady state for 15-30 minutes, sometimes in fasted state.

At the end of my 13 weeks of cutting, I had barely visible abs, retained almost all of my muscle, but still had slight love handles as well. I weighed between 189-192 lbs.

In the past, I have ran a few cycles (Test-E, Test-E/Masteron/T-bol/Test E-EQ-Tren/Test E-Deca/Test-Tren. I have also taken Clenbuterol with little to no success.

In essence, regardless of my use of "supplements" and diet strictness, I still have trouble getting around that 7-12% bodyfat range.

My goal is to try run something lighter with Clen and t-3 to shred off my extra fat I've gained over my last bulk (235 lbs @ 5'9" @ 20% BF)

And to foreshadow why I gained the weight and fat I did, 10% of it was grad student life and eating a little less clean than usually and the other 90% was actually adhering to my goal for a powermeet I competed in (Squat: 525, Bench: 405, Deadlift: 525).
 
It comes down to calories man and how hard you're willing or able to cut.

I have several years on you, I'm 37 and have found that I now have to cut much more aggressively to get the same results as I could get on less of a cut a few years ago. Now you're young, but you have done several serious AAS cycles, so who knows how your hormones are playing into this at this point.

Back back to calories, you might have to get really aggressive on a deficit.
 
In my opinion, if you want to get some body fat off, especially stomach/love handles, you'll simply have to lose weight, which means you'll have to be in a deficit. If you are over 15%, or even close to 20%, you won't have good definition. Which means you should not be on a bulk at all until you are fairly lean. The exception would be this: if you are a powerlifter and you don't care about aesthetics one bit, then you can do whatever you want, as long as your big lifts are progressing. Otherwise, 200+ lbs, or even 190+ @ 5'9" might simply be too much.

That stomach fat is the last to go for most people. Myself included. I'm only 5'6" 1/2, and if I keep my weight between 160 and 165 lbs, I have really good muscle definition, nice bicep peak, "horseshoe" triceps, abs etc. Anything over that, and it will start disappearing. That's without using any real anabolics, of course, but then... I do have a small frame. It might be different for you. I had a friend who was more or less like you, maybe an inch taller. He had to lose a lot of weight -- and he liked the results, but he wasn't a powerlifter either. He did lose strength in the process.
 
Dma378 said:
It comes down to calories man and how hard you're willing or able to cut.

I have several years on you, I'm 37 and have found that I now have to cut much more aggressively to get the same results as I could get on less of a cut a few years ago. Now you're young, but you have done several serious AAS cycles, so who knows how your hormones are playing into this at this point.

Back back to calories, you might have to get really aggressive on a deficit.
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In regards to my hormones, I always use a proper PCT including all the basics, as well as HCG. Additionally, I get my blood work done regularly while on and off to make sure everything is up to snuff because I would always rather be sage than sorry!

Thank you so much for your help and time, brother!

My only other question would be what you would recommend as a cycle (whether it be AAS or chems like clen) to aid me in fat loss and muscle retention. Diet control and training have never been a real issue for me, as I am always able to remain strict and dedicated. Which is why I'm consulting with someone who can aid me in my nutritional changes based on my body type. This is where AAS and what not comes into play for me!
 
gagandugan said:
In my opinion, if you want to get some body fat off, especially stomach/love handles, you'll simply have to lose weight, which means you'll have to be in a deficit. If you are over 15%, or even close to 20%, you won't have good definition. Which means you should not be on a bulk at all until you are fairly lean. The exception would be this: if you are a powerlifter and you don't care about aesthetics one bit, then you can do whatever you want, as long as your big lifts are progressing. Otherwise, 200+ lbs, or even 190+ @ 5'9" might simply be too much.

That stomach fat is the last to go for most people. Myself included. I'm only 5'6" 1/2, and if I keep my weight between 160 and 165 lbs, I have really good muscle definition, nice bicep peak, "horseshoe" triceps, abs etc. Anything over that, and it will start disappearing. That's without using any real anabolics, of course, but then... I do have a small frame. It might be different for you. I had a friend who was more or less like you, maybe an inch taller. He had to lose a lot of weight -- and he liked the results, but he wasn't a powerlifter either. He did lose strength in the process.
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Thanks for your response! In essence, I've always had big bones and a wide shoulder frame so putting on muscle and fat has always been super easy for me. At around 220 for my height, I can still see my top 4 abs just slightly in the mirror, but aside from that, my arms, back and chest just look large with no real separation.

My goal is to now just look as shredded as possible and maintain that for a while because I've been doing nothing but eating for performance and focusing on strength. But my criteria for getting ripped is to not look like a twig and still hold onto as much mass as my body will allow. Bulking is easy for me as an endomorph/mesomorph but the end result of leanness is always hard to attain because of how easily I store fat.
 
Yeah, you are absolutely right. And the body type you described is exactly like that friend of mine. Not tall, but naturally big and strong body. Since he wasn't really into powerlifting, he went for the "shredded" look, but I don't think he was any heavier then 190 at the end of his cut. He did not look like a twig... he still looked huge to me @ around 5'9" 1/2 and 190-ish lbs. I know I can't bulk that much, since I have a ~6-inch wrist, to put things in perspective. I think I'd just look funny, so I went for an "athletic" look instead. Normal looking with a shirt on, not big, not skinny, good definition underneath. But everyone's goals are different, of course. I used to weigh only 130 though. :lmao:

I have a friend who is an IFBB Pro Bodybuilder. Not one of the famous guys, but he is my height and competes in 212. To me, he looks enormous at 210 lbs. But his conditioning is amazing. He uses anabolics, obviously. Otherwise this is impossible to achieve, even with perfect genetics.
 
Cutting on anabolics for some is very difficult, myself included, because the body just craves calories and carbs. I'm on Test, Tren, and Mast right now which started out as a cut, but have had to succumb to the hunger and feed it!! Which is ok, I'm recomping nicely.

Now the one compound that I used for my most successful cut ever was Ostar1ne. Went from 203 @ around 16%BF, ended at 187 @ around 10-12%. My avi picture is from the end of that run.
 
Y-hcl and caffeine combined with lgsciences epiandro/17proandro for 12 weeks allowed me to achieve 190 to 160, I had high bodyfat so I set up macros to loose accordingly....
 
ngen52 said:
What can ya tell me about the product? What to expect, etc.?
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Increased aggression, increased muscle hardness, dryer appearance, some report increased libido and a sense of well being... if youre cutting it will help maintain muscle mass
 
Dma378 said:
Cutting on anabolics for some is very difficult, myself included, because the body just craves calories and carbs. I'm on Test, Tren, and Mast right now which started out as a cut, but have had to succumb to the hunger and feed it!! Which is ok, I'm recomping nicely.

Now the one compound that I used for my most successful cut ever was Ostar1ne. Went from 203 @ around 16%BF, ended at 187 @ around 10-12%. My avi picture is from the end of that run.
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Wheres the best place to obtain it at? I'd love to run it and put up a log if you can point me in the right direction, you being a rep and all.
 
Most lower ab fat I find is vat I'd take a cortisol blocker and the sarm gw. What Are Your Macros I Need To Be Below 100GRAMS Of CARBS A Day To Cut Lower Ab fat off and I cycle IN some 30 gram days
 
One of my logs in the cycle section has pictures showing me going from approx 20% to single digits in like 12 weeks the pics are there that show the weekly changes
 
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