currently on first cycle, looking to add

[Harry_Connick]

Hey everyone, new to forum, apologize if I posted in wrong area, if so just point me in the right direction.

I'm 25, been training close to three years now, and currently on my first cycle of 1 andro only (Sup3r-1)

So far: Week 1: 220mg
Week 2: 330mg
Week 3: 440 mg (still in weeks 3)

I am taking to help shed some fat, but also hoping (but won't be too upset if I don't) to build some lean muscle as well.
I was planning on an 8 week cycle keeping the dosage at 440 for the rest of the run.

I decided to only take 1 andro because it is my first cycle and it seems good. Currently my workouts do feel slightly easier and I am a bit more focused in the gym. But I am feeling like now that I have spent some money I might as well step it up a bit so as at the end of this cycle I don't feel like "That's it?". Currently I am experiencing no side effects, other than it is difficult to wake up in the morning, but once I'm up, no lethargy. I have been noticing a few more hairs on my pillow than normal, but that could be coincidence. I have been slowly receding since about 17, but I did order some Minoxidil that should be arriving today that I will start taking regardless of if the hair loss is due to the 1 andro or not.

My question is: what do you all think would be good to add into this to help maybe add some lean mass, and help shed fat overall. I was trying to figure this out either by the end of this week or next week so I can run it for the last four or five weeks of the cycle. I know the obvious answers are 4 andro and Epi, but was afraid of the extra hair loss.

NOTE: I do not want to take anything that will likely, or is known to cause hair loss. Also I am fine with decreased libido.


So far the four main ones I am looking into are; androvar, anavar, tbol and deca. Any thoughts on which of these you think would be best, or any other recommendations you may have are welcome and are much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[Choppedjunior]

naturally you loose 100 strands of hair a day. honestly if you don't have hair loss issues already you're probably fine. I have very thick hair and msten i noticed a bit more than usually coming out in the shower, but was never a big deal.

 

[mike33511]

Out of the 4 options you listed, the only one that makes sense is epi-andro. It can function as sort of a test base, which you should have had from the beginning. If you're not adverse to pinning, I would suggest adding actual testosterone. It would have to be test prop, as long esters would only be starting to kick in by the end of your cycle.

 

[2manyprojects]

A better question is what is your plan for pct?

 

[Harry_Connick]

I know it's stupid but I don't have on hand yet. But I was planning either clomid at 50/50/25/25 or nolva at 40/40/20/20/10 or maybe just get Sup3r-pct

 

[Harry_Connick]

Yeah, I think the main thing that kept me away was the hair loss. If I do decide to go with epi, is it too late at this point in the cycle? If I start next week that'll give me 5 weeks to run it, but is it a problem that I've already been on 1 andro for 3 weeks? I wouldn't think so, but I'm not sure.

Also I remember reading somewhere on here, but cannot remember where or what exactly it was, it was someone who took something like epi (could've been something else, like I said can't remember) with a hair loss product, I think Finasteride, and it made the hair fall out like crazy. Is there anything in particular to stay away from on Epi?

 

[AnabolicGuru]

Get clomid and run it 50/50/25/25 pct, and find a pharma source. I think that epiandro is your best bet since it's your first cycle. Take some time off after and do more research though.