Curious how many people on here only do PH's & SARMS

Which do you use?

  • Only PH's & SARMS

    Votes: 10 45.5%
  • Only Old School Gear

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Both

    Votes: 9 40.9%

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I'm new to this forum specifically but used to be very active on many other ones. Something that caught my attention here is the large amounts of posts related to new designer orals and SARMs. Almost feel like the greater majority of members here do not pin any real gear. Wanted to get a poll to get a better idea.
 
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Pretty much folks just throwing money away lol! You know my vote
 
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Both.

Why?

Because some Sarms and/or Ph's are better suited than roids. LGD for instance is a good bulker, without being too wet and with only little -or no liver toxicity. Show me an equivalent roid.
 
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agreed^

theres a little but of everything here, mainly the new cutting edge stuff
 
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Curious how many people on here only do PH's & SARMS

All junk sorry!! LGD LMAO, utter crap. I’m not blindly making ignorant comments, I’ve dabbled in a few of these so called cutting edge supps and it’s a waste of money! It’s just not for me, but if these so called newest latest and greatest work for some, fantastic!!!!
 
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All junk sorry!! LGD LMAO, utter crap. I’m not blindly making ignorant comments, I’ve dabbled in a few of these so called cutting edge supps and it’s a waste of money! It’s just not for me, but if these so called newest latest and greatest work for some, fantastic!!!!
Not all Ph's, Sarms or roids are working for everyone. Some come underdosed -or are plain fake.
LGD has to be taken in a higher dose as commonly suggested. Together with test as a base, it is at least as potent as t-bol, well, for me it is, but it "kicks in" a bit late -on the other hand it can be run longer than t-bol due to its lower liver toxicity.

Ever heart of Trestolone? Trest-ace blows EVERYTHING out of the water, mg x mg, mark my words, estrogenic sides are terrible -also elevated BP -but hey, we know that from some of the roids, right?
 

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All junk sorry!! LGD LMAO, utter crap. I’m not blindly making ignorant comments, I’ve dabbled in a few of these so called cutting edge supps and it’s a waste of money! It’s just not for me, but if these so called newest latest and greatest work for some, fantastic!!!!
I see it throught the years that a lot of guys assume it's not illegal so it's no good. Lol I remebsr when people talked **** on m1t and superdrol saying it wasn't real gear. Meanwhile two of the strongest steroids ever made. Ha I've used everything under the sun on both sides. Favorites used to be anadrol tren and test suspension.pretty sure msten is still legall and if you can find legit stuff it is pretty stron as well. As far as sarms I tried ostatrine and would agree it sucks I Imo. S4 is the only I've found that I like. **** is strong if legit. Good strenght gains even when cutting. Also mk677 is great stuff and works better then I expected. Not a sarm but usually lumped in with them. Legality is obviously the main reason for people interest in ph and sarms. I can't afford to risk getting caught with gear anymore. If it wasn't for that I would just use plain old test any from doesn't matter.
 

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Also good point above on Trest. Stuff is also wicked strong but also grows titties faster then Anythigh else as well. Ha
 
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Yes, I’ve heard of trest lol!!! It’s my go to stack spring into summer with Mast etc... you’d have a heart attack if I told you how much of the stuff I have. The only thing LGD did for me was give me achy joints. And being a powerlifter, it did not work out so well for me. I’m just messing with you guys anyway just getting post count up. But obviously not a fan of sarms or oral PH’s and even AAS and DS orals have been wreaking havoc on my stomach!!
 
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Curious how many people on here only do PH's & SARMS

Also good point above on Trest. Stuff is also wicked strong but also grows titties faster then Anythigh else as well. Ha
Yes, I can’t control it until after a blast no matter the AI dose. Ralox I have found works best though for me. Luckily for me a couple weeks after last poke, sides subside
 

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If legal issues are not a concern I would say sarms would proabablu be a waist. I never tried lgd. If you feel the need though To try something just for ****s and giggles is recommend s4. Good for strength. Although I'm sure it won't match haotestin or similar strength drugs ha. It's the one thing I always wanted to try and never got around to back when I used gear.
 
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To each their own, Sarms work very well for me and they're all I need, now that being said, I'm a bit older (65) and maybe a great receptor
 
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Both.

Why?

Because some Sarms and/or Ph's are better suited than roids. LGD for instance is a good bulker, without being too wet and with only little -or no liver toxicity. Show me an equivalent roid.
You ever run sarms on pct?
 
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You ever run sarms on pct?
No. IMHO it defeats the purpose of PCT. I'm "perma on" for a year now, cruising/blasting, no more PCT for me.
A guy here on AM ( Spurfy )supports the idea of using Sarms and/or roids together with a Serm (especially Torem or Clomid) and don't do PCT, claiming that a Serm, like Toremifene counteracts the suppression from a Sarm during cycle.
An LGD cycle would look like this, I guess:
LGD: 10/10/15/15/15/15/15/15
Torem: 60/60/60/60/60/60/60/60

Would be interesting to see someone do it like this, with pre/post blood labs.
 
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No. IMHO it defeats the purpose of PCT. I'm "perma on" for a year now, cruising/blasting, no more PCT for me.
A guy here on AM ( Spurfy )supports the idea of using Sarms and/or roids together with a Serm (especially Torem or Clomid) and don't do PCT, claiming that a Serm, like Toremifene counteracts the suppression from a Sarm during cycle.
An LGD cycle would look like this, I guess:
LGD: 10/10/15/15/15/15/15/15
Torem: 60/60/60/60/60/60/60/60

Would be interesting to see someone do it like this, with pre/post blood labs.

I wouldn't skip a pct but I don't think thats quite true with all sarms. Some are supposedly fine as pct during 4 weeks only. The names of The sarms though, is it gw something ?
 
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I wouldn't skip a pct but I don't think thats quite true with all sarms. Some are supposedly fine as pct during 4 weeks only. The names of The sarms though, is it gw something ?
Nah. Any working anabolic is suppressive, can't be used for PCT as it hinders recovery. GW is cardarine, not a Sarm, and it is not anabolic -nor suppressive. Its sort of a metabolic enhancer, good for increasing stamina, insulin sensitivity and balancing cholesterol.
 
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Nah. Any working anabolic is suppressive, can't be used for PCT as it hinders recovery. GW is cardarine, not a Sarm, and it is not anabolic -nor suppressive. Its sort of a metabolic enhancer, good for increasing stamina, insulin sensitivity and balancing cholesterol.
Ah its that one. I tend to forget the names of these. There is one that's suppressive if used more than 4 weeks so ive heard. Isn't it mk 2866 (ostarine)? Used as pct by some.
 
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Ah its that one. I tend to forget the names of these. There is one that's suppressive if used more than 4 weeks so ive heard. Isn't it mk 2866 (ostarine)? Used as pct by some.

All Sarms are suppressive. Ostarine is the least anabolic -and supposedly least suppressive -BUT it depends. I ran Ostarine at 20mg/d in the past and did not felt suppressed after 2 month, others got shut down by it. One thing is sure, its not sound to use it in PCT.
A non-suppressive anabolic would be the holy grail, you wouldn't even need a PCT.
 
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All Sarms are suppressive. Ostarine is the least anabolic -and supposedly least suppressive -BUT it depends. I ran Ostarine at 20mg/d in the past and did not felt suppressed after 2 month, others got shut down by it. One thing is sure, its not sound to use it in PCT.
A non-suppressive anabolic would be the holy grail, you wouldn't even need a PCT.
Hmm I have to look in to that, many of these has great properties especially with tren. Now I don't know if it's all true of course.
 
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Hmm I have to look in to that, many of these has great properties especially with tren. Now I don't know if it's all true of course.
Tren.... Who needs Sarms when you can tolerate Tren?

Ostarine comes in handy when you are on a cut with a TRT dose of test -and don't want to punish your liver as hard.
LGD is good for a TRT/LGD bulk, same reasoning applies, as you don't have to worry about estrogen conversion, liver toxicity (for most people, not all) or high RBC (as with Deca or EQ).
 
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All Sarms are suppressive. Ostarine is the least anabolic -and supposedly least suppressive -BUT it depends. I ran Ostarine at 20mg/d in the past and did not felt suppressed after 2 month, others got shut down by it. One thing is sure, its not sound to use it in PCT.
A non-suppressive anabolic would be the holy grail, you wouldn't even need a PCT.
Hmm I have to look in to that, many of these has great properties especially with tren. Now I don't know if it's all true of course.
 
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Hmm I have to look in to that, many of these has great properties especially with tren. Now I don't know if it's all true of course.
It's the second time you mentioned Tren in conjunction with Sarms, please explain.
 
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I believe it keep colesterol under control and protects against cardiovascular diseases. But like I said I'm asking the questions here.
 
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I believe it keep colesterol under control and protects against cardiovascular diseases. But like I said I'm asking the questions here.
You are mixing things up.
We have: PPAR receptor agonist GW-501516 "Cardarine", No Sarm, good for HDL/LDL balance
And we have Sarms: like Ostarine, S4, LGD and others, all "bad" for cholesterol
And we have: Growth Hormone Secretagogues like MK-667 "Ibutamoren" and some peptides, complete non-Sarm related
 
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You are mixing things up.
We have: PPAR receptor agonist GW-501516 "Cardarine", No Sarm, good for HDL/LDL balance
And we have Sarms: like Ostarine, S4, LGD and others, all "bad" for cholesterol
And we have: Growth Hormone Secretagogues like MK-667 "Ibutamoren" and some peptides, complete non-Sarm related

I was talking about gw not all of them as a way of controlling cortisol and cardiovascular health I think. Anyways, you don't see it being beneficial at all during pct?
 
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I was talking about gw not all of them as a way of controlling cortisol and cardiovascular health I think. Anyways, you don't see it being beneficial at all during pct?
No. Not really.
 

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Only done 3 ph cycles so far but my next run will be injectable for sure

From all the research ive done injectable is rly the way to go
 
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Curious how many people on here only do PH's & SARMS

So gonna be a bit of a hypocrite but not really lol. gonna beta test Inj water based SR9009 stenabolic with test/tren ace/Mast this winter. SR9009 as some know has no oral bioavailability but when injected should be impressive. The goal is to help combat tren sides similar to what cardarine does for lipid profiles, cardiovascular health etc.. Its considered a Rev-ErbA ligand not a sarm, but excited to see if it will help with bronchial constriction which was my worst enemy on tren e. Now tren a should be on paper much worse.
 

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Tried Pro hormones, did not like the **** ****ing with my liver and switched over to SARMs. Results are definitely not as good as something like the original beastdrol, but that **** had my sides hurting lol. I also enjoy drinking, so I decided to stay away from Pro Hormones. No issues on SARMs as of yet, but also not sure they are even worth the $$$ out side of GW 501516, which is not even a SARM
 

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