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Critique my upcoming SD Solo Run

EMT803

EMT803

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Currently in a recomp/cut and have a thread running in the supplement log (OxyMax XT / AlphaMax XT Log (unsponsored)).

Briefly and honestly, I am an experienced PH/DS user from a decade ago. I debated on running Anadrol and Test E, but I am not really ready to go that route quite yet. I will be logging this SD run and it will begin in December. I debated on using SD as a kicker for a 16 week Test E run, but if I can have the same experience with this SD run that I had with the original I will be satisfied... if I can hold on to the gains. We all know how that goes. In my 20's it was a challenge. My training was decent, but my lifestyle was garbage. I am currently ON POINT with my mindset, diet and current lifestyle. I am 37 and tryiNolva ng to mitigate as many of the long term negatives while optimizing my gains. Obviously, this should be anyone's goal going into a cycle, but having common sense and applying it is the catch.

How does this look:

Blood work before, blood work after

SD 10/20/20/20
Some sort of all in one "Cycle Support" like product throughout along with ancillaries

PCT:
Clomid 150/100/100/50
Cardarine 20mg ED
A decent test booster/ anti cortisol AlphaMax maybe?

I will have Nolva and an AI on hand all of which will be prescription strength.

Opinions?
 
Oh yeah, I am looking to make this a VERY clean bulk. Looking to retain 5 to 8 lbs of quality muscle after PCT.
 
EMT803 said:
Currently in a recomp/cut and have a thread running in the supplement log (OxyMax XT / AlphaMax XT Log (unsponsored)).

Briefly and honestly, I am an experienced PH/DS user from a decade ago. I debated on running Anadrol and Test E, but I am not really ready to go that route quite yet. I will be logging this SD run and it will begin in December. I debated on using SD as a kicker for a 16 week Test E run, but if I can have the same experience with this SD run that I had with the original I will be satisfied... if I can hold on to the gains. We all know how that goes. In my 20's it was a challenge. My training was decent, but my lifestyle was garbage. I am currently ON POINT with my mindset, diet and current lifestyle. I am 37 and tryiNolva ng to mitigate as many of the long term negatives while optimizing my gains. Obviously, this should be anyone's goal going into a cycle, but having common sense and applying it is the catch.

How does this look:

Blood work before, blood work after

SD 10/20/20/20
Some sort of all in one "Cycle Support" like product throughout along with ancillaries

PCT:
Clomid 150/100/100/50
Cardarine 20mg ED
A decent test booster/ anti cortisol AlphaMax maybe?

I will have Nolva and an AI on hand all of which will be prescription strength.

Opinions?
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I'd commit suicide on that much clomid
 
Why not a base of some sort - Epiandro or transdermal DHEA? Or Trest, if you can get it (since you will have a good AI anyway).

Also, you don't need that much Clomid. Better to use lower dose and take it longer. Just my $.02.
 
Smont said:
I'd commit suicide on that much clomid
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I really just threw the dosage out there after a quick google search. I personally have always used Nolva, but it seems that people are leaning more towards Clomid these days so I thought about going that route this time. I wouldn't be opposed to running both. Just whatever provides the best PCT. Thanks for pointing out the dosage issue though. Just curious, what would you suggest from personal experience?
 
gagandugan said:
Why not a base of some sort - Epiandro or transdermal DHEA? Or Trest, if you can get it (since you will have a good AI anyway).

Also, you don't need that much Clomid. Better to use lower dose and take it longer. Just my $.02.
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Thank you for your input as well... REALLY! What dosage would you suggest? Are people still front loading the Clomid initially during the first several days? I seem to remember that being a thing.

As far as not having a test base, I considered adding BC Tren, but I think I will save that for a potential Epistane/ Tren run to cut this upcoming summer. I have no experience stacking orals together so I was going to keep it simple this time. I was REALLY debating on finally making the leap to Test, but I'd run that for several months obviously and figured "getting back to normal" would be easier physically if I just blasted SD for a month. I could be wrong and that is really why I wanted to start the thread. I have no experience with Epiandro, but I am open to suggestion.
 
First of all I’d do clomid at 50/50/25/25
Tren isn’t a test base and as your running sd I’d go for a good test base. Try Td trest at 50mg per day or maybe if you can get hold of some Td test would be better. I just think that epiandro or 4ad won’t be enough... just my 2 “euro cents”
 
Do yourself a favor. Get some test cyp or e at 500 for 12weeks. Kick it with the sd

It will be so worth it. Do not run sd solo for 3-4 weeks. It will be fun but nothing like if you added test.
 
solidsnake said:
First of all I’d do clomid at 50/50/25/25
Tren isn’t a test base and as your running sd I’d go for a good test base. Try Td trest at 50mg per day or maybe if you can get hold of some Td test would be better. I just think that epiandro or 4ad won’t be enough... just my 2 “euro cents”
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Thanks for you "Euro cents" haha. Really though, I appreciate it. Like I was saying in the opening post, I have never made the leap to the "darkside" so a lot of the minutia to some of you guys is like reading Latin to me. I just started researching Tren and Trest and Test and it is a lot to take in, thus the thread so I do welcome your input. I am really on the fence to make the jump to saying screw it and making the jump to Test E.

Quest said:
Do yourself a favor. Get some test cyp or e at 500 for 12weeks. Kick it with the sd

It will be so worth it. Do not run sd solo for 3-4 weeks. It will be fun but nothing like if you added test.
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This is SO tempting to me man. I have the access, blah blah, I am just wondering how much more this invites long term suppression given my age. That is really my only hang up. I totally understand that SD is going to shut me down, but I figured it would be easier to bounce back from a 3 or 4 weeker than a 12 or 16. This is where my inexperience in this area is telling and there is a plethora of opinions out there. It's hard to decipher at times. I have some friends that tell me a SD only run would be prudent, I have another that tells me I should quit being a ***** and run Test E and Tren. He has been juicing for years though and is WAY bigger than I ever want to be however. Thank you for your input.
 
My first cycle was test e alone and I loved it. I was 32 at the time and in the best shape of my life. But nowadays I’d prefer to do a bit more hardcore. At the end of the day it’s up to you bro, I’d try not to worry too much about bouncing back, if you are then I wouldn’t touch trest, if you want to keep it short then do sd and try to get some Td test no base or inject a fast acting test like prop, the long estered one will take a while to kick in so no good for a 4 week cycle, same goes with the Andros
 
solidsnake said:
My first cycle was test e alone and I loved it. I was 32 at the time and in the best shape of my life. But nowadays I’d prefer to do a bit more hardcore. At the end of the day it’s up to you bro, I’d try not to worry too much about bouncing back, if you are then I wouldn’t touch trest, if you want to keep it short then do sd and try to get some Td test no base or inject a fast acting test like prop, the long estered one will take a while to kick in so no good for a 4 week cycle, same goes with the Andros
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My initial idea was either SD solo or to make the leap and run the Test E. That would change the entire cycle obviously. How does this look?

SD 10/20/20/20 (Week 1-4) (although I have read I could add a week or two if I use a Test base)
Test E @ 500 (250 pinned twice a week 1-16) (I will have to research the timing of the last pin due to the long ester)
Cycle/Liver Support Product with additional Tudca especially during the SD

PCT:
For this type I would probably want to run Nolva and Clomid
Nolva 40/30/20/10
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin 12.5 EOD

Test Booster and AntiCort (Alphamax). I am considering Cardarine during PCT because I have some onhand
 
10 sd for 4-5 weeks. The sd is for the pump. Test is for building slow keepable gains. I'm not a bodybuilder tho I just love to lift.

Sometimes 20 sd on weeks 3-4
 
EMT803 said:
My initial idea was either SD solo or to make the leap and run the Test E. That would change the entire cycle obviously. How does this look?

SD 10/20/20/20 (Week 1-4) (although I have read I could add a week or two if I use a Test base)
Test E @ 500 (250 pinned twice a week 1-16) (I will have to research the timing of the last pin due to the long ester)
Cycle/Liver Support Product with additional Tudca especially during the SD

PCT:
For this type I would probably want to run Nolva and Clomid
Nolva 40/30/20/10
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Aromasin 12.5 EOD

Test Booster and AntiCort (Alphamax). I am considering Cardarine during PCT because I have some onhand
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I like this. You may not even need the aromasin EOD, but keep it on hand and see how you respond. Creatine, you should always run in my opinion. No reason to come off. AlphaMax XT is great during PCT. in addition to the SERM. You will get a full dosed AI, Ashwagandha can also help reduce cortisol y reducing stress/anxiety. It also provides an increase in body comp. It helps maintain lean mass and increase fat loss. F95 increase cAMP levels and also does the same thing regarding body composition. You also have several ingredients that will aid in boosting testosterone. It beats buying an AI, testbooster, something for libido, etc. It is a nice, all in one solution when combined with a SERM.
 
How does you organs look? Being 37, and taking SD...

I'd just want to know my cholesterol was decent and my kidney & liver values were acceptable too. My overall concern would be:

Kidney health
Cholesterol, heart & blood health
Liver health

You just need to get your body in good shape before running SD again. You aren't what you once were.

I suggest these supps even year round:

Curcumin (Curcubrain)
CoQ10
Nattokinase
Garlic extract
Golden Standard Kidney Stuff
Dandelion root & Liv52
TUDCA
Multi-Mineral
Multi-Vitamin
 
Quest said:
10 sd for 4-5 weeks. The sd is for the pump. Test is for building slow keepable gains. I'm not a bodybuilder tho I just love to lift.

Sometimes 20 sd on weeks 3-4
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I am definitely open to keeping the SD dose a little lower to help with potential sides if Test is in the mix. Thanks for your input.
 
AntM1564 said:
I like this. You may not even need the aromasin EOD, but keep it on hand and see how you respond. Creatine, you should always run in my opinion. No reason to come off. AlphaMax XT is great during PCT. in addition to the SERM. You will get a full dosed AI, Ashwagandha can also help reduce cortisol y reducing stress/anxiety. It also provides an increase in body comp. It helps maintain lean mass and increase fat loss. F95 increase cAMP levels and also does the same thing regarding body composition. You also have several ingredients that will aid in boosting testosterone. It beats buying an AI, testbooster, something for libido, etc. It is a nice, all in one solution when combined with a SERM.
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As far as Creatine and my other OTC ancillaries they will be running along as well, but thanks for making sure I didn't miss that detail. Couldn't agree more with you about the Alphamax in pct. Solid product for me thus far.
 
fueledpassion said:
How does you organs look? Being 37, and taking SD...

I'd just want to know my cholesterol was decent and my kidney & liver values were acceptable too. My overall concern would be:

Kidney health
Cholesterol, heart & blood health
Liver health

You just need to get your body in good shape before running SD again. You aren't what you once were.

I suggest these supps even year round:

Curcumin (Curcubrain)
CoQ10
Nattokinase
Garlic extract
Golden Standard Kidney Stuff
Dandelion root & Liv52
TUDCA
Multi-Mineral
Multi-Vitamin
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My sentiments exactly in reference to not being the same person that I was back in my 20's physically. That is the main reason I am so on the fence about pulling the trigger on this. I was STUPID reckless back before the ban. I was on point during my SD run back then, but ended up getting the tiniest knot under my left nip from not PCT'ing Pheraplex properly and was drinking and partying like Robert Downey Jr. on an Epistane run. I was such a ****1ng idiot back then. As far as how my body is doing now, I have been to the doctor multiple times for routine physicals and they have never pulled me aside and mentioned anything being out of whack, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything if they weren't looking closely. If anyone has a suggestion about a simple test that is not crazy expensive without insurance to run before and after the cycle I am interested. If I take this test at the end of my Alphamax/Oxymax run we could maybe see how effective those compounds have been for the past 8 weeks although I won't have a baseline to compare it to. It would be interesting however. If I am in the TRT range going ahead and running the Test will be a no brainer.
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I'd suggest the basic bodybuilding test + add cholesterol test to it from Invalid Link Removed. The complete blood count and metabolic panel will tell you kidney, liver & blood health. Added cholesterol test will give you a better idea on how aggressive you need to be with restoring cholesterol after the cycle.

If your kidney and liver values are less than ideal, you might want to limit your SD dose to 10mg/day, run tons of kidney and liver support and use some cholesterol supps like Heart Help or Citrus Bergamot & Pantethine for cholesterol.
 
fueledpassion said:
I'd suggest the basic bodybuilding test + add cholesterol test to it from Invalid Link Removed. The complete blood count and metabolic panel will tell you kidney, liver & blood health. Added cholesterol test will give you a better idea on how aggressive you need to be with restoring cholesterol after the cycle.
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Thank you VERY much...
 
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